What is it with the Republican apologists on this forum?

[saracat]

Lately we have been drowning in the defense of Republicans and I don't think it is all freepers. People are praising and defending the repugs.They all have repug friends, repugs were duped, McCain is a great guy. Gag. I may leave the board. I thought we were Progressive. It is this looney bipartisanship that is destroying us. The congressional Dems trusted the Repugs and where did it get'em? If you sleep with pigs you will wake up with pigs.

[RoeBear]

1. I'm sorry

couldn't resist

[Caution]

2. so...what you are saying is

"Either you are with us or you are against us?"

or maybe

"The reason we are better than the republicans is because we see issues in black or white while they see things in shades of grey"

Sorry, but there are times when republicans do the right thing...it does happen and when it does they deserve to be praised just like anyone else, the same with democrats who do the wrong thing.

[saracat]

3. The only right thing

they do is unify their rank and file which is what we should do.Whens the last time you heard them praise us?

[uncle ray]

74. you'll never get the rank and file by calling them rank and file...n/t

[trumad]

4. Listen

There are many republicans on DU that are just fine. I for one have been a lifelong Republican and am proud of it. I voted for Bush 1, Reagan, etc. I just have a difference of opinion with W. Please take it easy on the Republicans here at DU.

Besides I voted for Nader in 2000 so you really can't get on me.

[redqueen]

6. Self deleted

what's the fucking point

this country is lost

[trumad]

9. Whaaaaa

what do you mean... You got something against Republicans?

[redqueen]

11. Yes. As a matter of fact, I do.

Look up just about ANY policy stand they've taken in the past 25 years and it's nearly guaranteed I'll disagree with it.

[trumad]

16. Ok

The impeachment of Klinton... Maybe not a policy stand but a just cause.

[redqueen]

19. You think the impeachment of Clinton (that's a "C" there, btw)

was a 'just cause'?

[trumad]

26. Look..Ken Starr found a lot of info on that guy

and presented it to a congress that was doing thier job. Linda Tripp, Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers were true hero's for coming out the way they did.

[redqueen]

28. You've gotta be shitting me

I'm taking WF's comment to heart and abandoning this thread now.

[sallyseven]

38. Now that statement is a crock

They were not hero's they were opportunists looking for big bucks and they got them from the republicans.

[tom_paine]

40. Deleted for extreme gullibility in falling for trumad's gag-posts

[redqueen]

41. heeheeeheeehee

Glad to see I wasn't the only one shocked to the core!

edited to add: and played for a SUCKER

[saracat]

66. I statred this thread

and I think it is hilarious that I was taken in by Trumad!I was soo blinded by rage at the real lurkers and panderes that I missed the clues!
But my original post still stands!

[redqueen]

67. Yeah I think you have a good point re: real repub apologists

We liberals are always forgiving people for their mistakes.



Not a bad thing, really. It does wonders for outreach, and that's a good thing, IMO.

[trumad]

46. LOL

I'm in a box here... And I put myself there... On one hand Tom and I go way back on DU and he knows damn well that he's in my top 5 of DU'ers...On the other hand he just wrote a blistering critique of my above posts. Was he serious or was he too being sarcastic in a silly thread. Shit! Ya got me Tom..Bastard!

[tom_paine]

48. No, trumad...you got ME

I was being quite serious (and stunned as a mothafucka).

You got me.

April f*&%ing Fools, eh?

You got me good. But I can take a joke.

Good one...

Bastard.

[2Design]

21. waste of money....everyone knew what he was like as gov

That was the biggest bS and waste of money ......

[saracat]

18. Do you notice that they

are not only apologists but are Repugs? This board has been invaded. These reponses are a perfect example of what I was talking about!

[trumad]

20. What do you mean?

These responses are made by intellegent thoughtful people like myself who happen to lean to the far right. You're acting all high and mighty.

[redqueen]

23. Yes I've noticed

Hard to believe. I guess when ones leadership shows itself to be so COMPLETELY CORRUPT and MORALLY BANKRUPT one has no choice but to defect to the 'other side'.

[saracat]

8. If you have a repug registration

that means you support their platform.And you prove what I have always said about the Nader voters.A vote for Nader was a vote for Bush.And lookee who stole the WH in 2000 and the Nader Vote had nothing to do with it? Sheesh. I will not go easy on the repugs.

[trumad]

12. Most of their platform is fine.

The only thing I disagree with the Republican Party is the Death Penalty. My Uncle Vernon was elctrocuted awhile back in the chair and he only stoled a pack of cigs. Of course he killed the guy he stole them from but that just aint right.

[redqueen]

15. Cutting funding for public schools?

Cutting funding for public arts programs?

Cutting funding for anything at all that doesn't benefit one of your pork-laden buddies?

These are 'fine'?

[trumad]

17. Peeing on a Crucifix is art.

It's downright blasphmey..

[saracat]

24. This is sickening.

Censorship of art is wrong. Why don't you go back and contribute to freeperland.Do you think to change the Progressive mindset.We are not FR!

[Andromeda]

76. you are so gullible...

can't you tell when somebody's pulling your leg?

[redqueen]

25. The govt isn't in the business of enforcing dogma

You can argue matters of taste till the cows come home. An opinion is just that.

Besides, if one disagrees with the grant process, you change the PROCESS, not cut off funding for something worthwhile.

Next?

[Zinfandel]

37. Yes, to me it is!!!

[NuttyFluffers]

33. Either you are good at deadpan dark humor

or you actually believe what you say.

i'm going to assume you are joking around, because i myself like to joke around like that too.

if you are serious though... well that just makes it even funnier! but then i'd be laughing AT you.

[WoodrowFan]

22. I sense sarcasm.. LOL (NT)

[redqueen]

27. Think so?

Would a sarcastic post warrant tweaking people with 'sarcastic' follow ups?

[WoodrowFan]

29. yep

sarcasm breads sarcasm, ESPECIALLY when Trumad is concerned.

[redqueen]

31. Well

he sure had me going!

[trumad]

30. Ahhh Woodrow..Ya busted me.

I've seen a bunch of these types of threads throughout my years at DU and I always love playing the part of a Repuke. I get em everytime.

[redqueen]

34. Dude that is cruel and wrong

lol

I was thinking this just can't be! I know this guy's posts!

You really blew it saying that starr et. al. did a good job. Even without WF tipping us off, that would have outed you. (So take note for the next time!)

[WoodrowFan]

35. sorry dude

but I could sense a few people having a stroke at the keyboard. Call it humanitarian intervention!! LOL

[Arkana]

69. Trumad, you may be evil

But I just wanna shake your hand. You're pretty good at that disguise thing...maybe you could be an informant for us so we don't have to sacrifice brain cells when we look in on the hellions' pit (aka Freeperville).

[Zinfandel]

32. Fucking unbelievable!!!

I thought so..do tell what Reagan ever did for working people???

I lived under that nazi scum fucking pig Reagan for sixteen years!

Now eight years under the bushes...

Fucking republicans lying bullshit, corporate polluting cocksuckers...ALL OF THEM!

Any questions?

[trumad]

42. B Movies?

?

[Zinfandel]

43. You must be so proud of yourself????

Voting for pig republicans!!!!

[trumad]

49. and you must be proud to chime into a thread

without reading the above comments... easy now... go read up top...

[redqueen]

54. Dude someone's gonna have a heart attack

How funny will it be then?

HUH?!

lol...

[northofdenali]

60. trumad, you are a baaaaaaaaaaad, baaaaaaaaaaad boy.

[Zinfandel]

61. Sweet pants, I don't read, never learned...I just react!!!

[Andromeda]

77. Take a deeeeep breath,

Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe ou....well, you know the drill.

There. Feel better?

[trof]

52. trumad is a poopy pants, trumad is a poopy pants.

nyah nyah nyah
<sticks out tongue>

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

45. Hahahaha! You nut!

I see you've started a war

[shanti]

63. wow

first time i had heard that you're a con....hmmmm

[JohnLocke]

68. LMAO at you, trumad.

[Speck Tater]

5. What is to be gained by demonizing the opposition?

Should we really start acting like neocons ourselves? I don't think so.

[redqueen]

14. Recognizing how awfully horrid Repub policies have been

for... oh... around the last THREE DECADES at LEAST is somehow a bad thing?

Recognizing how things like cutting funding for public schools and the arts are STAPLE REPUB POSITIONS ever since RAY GUN is a bad thing?

Please, tell me one redeeming quality the Repubs have. Just one. Please. Restore my faith in my fellow man. I beg you.

[Speck Tater]

70. One redeeming quality?

My mom is a Republican and she makes good lasagna. So there.

[KoKo]

53. The "Opposition" in this case ARE DEMONS! This is an "Underground"

Site! Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[Sirveri]

7. I can understand some things the GOP does

The GOP in theory is against abortion and wants less government programs. I can understand how people could come to support both of those conclusions. On abortion they should be the ones to be compromising, as they're attempting to force their moral beliefs on the rest of us. However, when it comes to government spending and size, they do have acceptable and reasonable concerns. I can understand people being hesitant about going to a outright form of socialised health care. That's a pretty big leap from our current system. What I can not understand is that they can not see just how broken the system is. We all live here together, and that means we should all try to get along.

[redqueen]

10. How about raygun's plan for kicking the mentally ill out on the streets

How does one rationalize another person's support of such absolute CRAP?

That's just ONE glaring example, if anyone wants I'm sure many, many people on this board (who are NOT former repub voters) can provide many, many, MANY examples of such wonderfully humane and respectable policy positions.

[el_gato]

39. or Reagans reign of bloody murder all over Latin America

Anybody who could defend the policies of Reagan and Bush I, both amoral slimebags is beyond me.

As far as Clinton, the things he should have gotten hell over is his support for NAFTA. The whitewater phoney scandal doesn't even make a blip on the radar compared to anything that has been done by the last several repub administrations.

I will never forgive reagan for what he did to El Salvador and Nicaragua.

[redqueen]

44. And I'll never forgive anyone who votes for (most) republicans

from Raygun to the present day, there are very few exceptions to the rule that Republicans are Mannon-worshipping, morally bankrupt, myopic, mentally deficient lemmings.

[wyldwolf]

47. Look. Ketchup really is a vegetable. So get over it!

[redqueen]

50. lol how is that?

Tomato = fruit

Squashed up fruit with sugar and spice = vegetable?

[wyldwolf]

55. Reagan said so when he was talkin' 'bout school lunches..

...so it must be so.

[redqueen]

56. Oh I remember

He cut funding for other vegetables on school lunch programs, and claimed that ketchup qualified as a 'vegetable' so the health / nutrition stats wouldn't reflect his noble deed.

Repubs suck!

[Sirveri]

71. Yeah, I don't remember, I just felt the effects.

I'm still feeling the efects of Reagans administration over California whenever I go into the city and see all the pyschotic bums everywhere. Cut the pysch care back to the bone and cast them all out into the street. Not pleasant.

[sallyseven]

51. I especially liked it when

he threw all the disabled off of SS Disability. People with cancer. If they had cancer they had to be designated terminal. He was the biggest b.....d that ever walked. It was utter insanity there for a while. About 98 % were put back on the rest died. I am sorry but he did not want to see funding for Alzheimer's Disease nor help for Aids. They were both alien to him.

[saracat]

13. Except it has been proven

they will not get along with us! They cannot compromise.They can't tell the truth!

[Tansy_Gold]

57. there's a lot wrong with your argument, saracat

First of all, not all Republicans are neo-con fascists.

Some Republicans, whether they are old-school Eisenhower-style Republicans or whatever, believe in lower taxes, protection of property rights, no welfare for the able-bodied, etc. Amazingly, some Democrats believe in the same things! Some Democrats, even ones who call themselves liberal or progressive, believe immigrants should learn to speak English if they want to be "Americans," and that ain't too different from the English-only repukes.

There are Republicans in congress who sometimes, even often, vote with the Dems on certain issues. There are some Republicans -- Collins, Chaffee, and others among them -- who still belong to that old school of the party of Lincoln.

I dunno, maybe you never were a Republican and have the advantage of never having to call your core beliefs into question. But I was born and raised a Republican and I've had to examine and analyze and question the fundamental social beliefs that I was raised with, and I realised I couldn't be a republican /small r sic/ any more. But I also know that not all those who haven't come over into the Light are still steadfast believers in evil. As Al Franken would say, "They don't know, they just don't know." And when someone comes out and paints them all as evil, it's unlikely they ever will.

Are there disruptors and trolls here on DU? Yeah, without a doubt. And you just gotta deal with 'em. Lock their threads or put 'em on ignore.

But don't forget that every once in a while one of those congressional repukes votes with us on some issue, and you damn well better be grateful when they do.

As someone once said, you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Tansy Gold, who is hiding this thread and any more like it.

[saracat]

62. There is a lot wrong with your point too, Tansy_Gold

I may not have been a Republican, but I was raised in a Republican household. These people today are NOT the same. There may be a few remmnants of ,say. Rockefeller Republicans, but not enough to make a difference. There is NO bipartisanship. One only has to look at the examples of Jean Carnahan and Max Cleland if one wants to see how far bipartisanship goes with this crowd.And we are not catching any flies at all with either honey or vinegar. I wish it were different but it is true.Collins and Snow for all their potential, have been enthusuastically stumping for Bush. Stumping I understand.Enthusiasm, thats another story.And Chaffee should pull a Jeffirds. It is dishonest to remain where you don't belong.And Zell miller should leave the Dems but that Is JMHO.

[sui generis]

36. I acknowledge it is irrational

to hate (okay, despise) Republicans as a species, but we don't have time to play word games with and for the flunkies who close rank around the kinds of evil supported by this administration, regardless of their "good hearts" and whatnot.

I do believe there are reasonable (maybe underinformed) "little people" republicans who don't agree with this administration's social engineering policies, with breaking down the walls between church and state, destroying the environment, (on and on and on), but the fact of the matter is that they will STILL BLINDLY VOTE republican, and it's not what they believe or not that matters, just what the end result turns out to be.

We have no defense against that but to blindly close ranks ourselves, and by and large we can't delude ourselves into thinking that we're going to bring the kind of people who turn out to be Republicans into the light before it's time to vote this round.

We all live here together, but someone is always pissing into the river upstream -- and those "someones" turn out to think they're pretty entitled to it by virtue of being more "moral" or "Republican". I can't get along with that.

[Sirveri]

73. I totally understand that point

I've voted Democrat ever since I could vote as far as elected officials go. But at the same time, I can understand certain things that were suppossedly core to the GOP platform. Abortion, I don't agree with, but I can at least comprehend why they oppose it. Fiscal policy I can also understand, I just think that it doesn't work, and I've got history to back me up on that.

What amases me is that the people who tow that line are still voting for him after he has so handily sold out so many of the party ideals. I actually asked three RW blogs why they were voting for Bush, and the two that responded were really quite interesting.
http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2004_01_11.P...
http://right-thinking.com/comments.php?id=P3911_0_1_40

The link to right thinking is being a tad irritating at moment. These queries were both made in January, before the shit really started to hit the fan in regards to Iraq.

What am *I* doing patronising these sites you ask? Well here is what I wrote on my LJ

"In my hopes of understanding WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE LIKE BUSH! I decided to simply start ASKING. And really, he's not too unreasonable. He has a differance of opinion with me over various hot topic issues like Abortion and size of government. I can't really say I object to that. Maybe the reason I hate Bush is because I'm simply a pessimist, and I only see fault in pretty much everything he has done.

Then again, maybe he's only done the wrong things, and I'm seeing reality. But at least I agree with him on one very important point.

He's WORSE than Reagan! HAHAHA!!!"

[Cleita]

58. I think they all are Republicans.

Although, I don't think saying that McCain would have been better than Bush, is apologizing for Republicans. It's just a fact to me.

[Cleita]

59. I think they all are Republicans.

Although, I don't think saying that McCain would have been better than Bush, is apologizing for Republicans. It's just a fact to me.

[camero]

64. When you lie with dogs expect to get fleas

I hear ya. Way too many posts like that and way too many links to freeper sites. Why give them the attention?

[mitchum]

65. I'm especially astounded by the defense of the late Barry Goldwater...

on this site. He was not an old-time "reasonable" Rockefeller republican. Goldwater's 64 campaign was the advance guard of the wingnut revolution which took over the party (and is trying to take over our country)

I will not defend the character or policies of ANY republican. THEY ARE THE ENEMY.

[Cronus Protagonist]

72. Ah, a thread almost full of "ignores"

It makes my heart swell at the knowledge that I don't have to stumble through psy-ops postings once more....

Click here for stunning, insulting, shocking, funny buttons, magnets and stickers

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

75. Quite frankly,

I don't think it helps anyone to wage a blanket war against ALL Republicans. Some of my friends are REpublicans. I'm serious. Look, no one recognizes more than I than thuggery and cutthroat tactics of the elite Repubs (DeLay, etc) but we ought not slam all of them. Simply put, there are good REpubs, even on this very board.