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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:03 PM
Original message
Aerial mind control (Commando Solo) and Rumsfeld's "Message to
the People of Iraq".

Here is a DoD release about the broadcast of the speech Rumsfeld made last April, note the fact that it was broadcast from a Commando Solo II aircraft mission over Iraq.
http://www.dod.gov/news/Apr2003/n04302003_20030402.html

Commando Solo aerial mind control missions have been used to influence foreign elections and behavior historically
http://www.raven1.net/commsolo.htm

Get used to mind control?
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:08 PM
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1. i hope i'm the first
:tinfoilhat:
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:09 PM
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2. Mind control?
It's a flying TV and radio station!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:33 PM
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3. RFR/ Specific effects on human beings are achieved by modulation of the
Edited on Tue May-25-04 02:48 PM by bobthedrummer
waveforms. Yes, mind control with HAARP and GWEN and those chemtrails that don't exist using the eath's atmosphere as the medium, LagaLover, to accesss all 6 billion+ human brains (google Persinger 1975)
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/remoteBehavioralInfluence....
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:41 PM
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5. Okkayyyy....
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:52 PM
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8. Um
So jets don't cause vapor trails. Its really mind control chemicals far beyond our ability to understand. And even though we are just now being able to identify specific areas in the brain someone has an antenna that can reprogram the brain to vote republican.......ok

I'll be over here..... way over here...... far far over here...... (sound of running away)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:10 PM
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11. Don't bother, just breathe deep and relax. And get up to speed on this.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:11 PM
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12. Yeah, SPEED...that explains it!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:16 PM
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13. What does velocity explain to you, lady?
eom
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:18 PM
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14. I said speed
not velocity...they are not the same thing. And I didn't mean speed in the velocity component context either...
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:55 PM
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23. It would be better to say no one is above the laws of physics
In this case you have jets emitting hyrdocarbons which crystalize in the upper atmoshpere. This leaves a trail behind the jet. It is not a mind control gas. Its simple physics.
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #23
29. STOP! You're killing me!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:38 PM
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4. Mind control was referenced in an Act of the 107th Congress HR2977
Edited on Tue May-25-04 02:39 PM by bobthedrummer
but all references to that portion of the Act dealing with "exotic weapons" were missing from the revised HR3616 language.
http://www.raven1.net/govptron.htm

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:51 PM
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6. what law?
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 02:51 PM
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7. what law?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:01 PM
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9. The Space Preservation Act of 2002 /HR3616 had lost the original
exotic weapons language present in HR2977/The Space Preservation Act of 2001.

Btw, here is a bit of info on one of the prime movers behind mind control:
MICHAELA PERSINGER, PH.D.
http://www.mfhr.org/new_page_41.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:20 PM
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16. Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House)
Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House)

HR 2977 IH


107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 2, 2001
Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


A BILL
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.

SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--

(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and

(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.

SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--

(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and

(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.

SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(1) space exploration;

(2) space research and development;

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Where have you been, woman?
:hi:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:31 PM
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18. This is the promise of love which overcomes all
Carved inside the pediment which sits atop the marble columns is a sentinel at the entrance to the United States House of Representatives. Standing resolutely inside this "Apotheosis of Democracy" is a woman, a shield by her left side, with her outstretched right arm protecting a child happily sitting at her feet. The child holds the lamp of knowledge under the protection of this patroness. This wondrous sculpture by Paul Wayland Bartlett, is entitled "Peace Protecting Genius". Not with nuclear arms, but with a loving maternal arm is the knowing child Genius shielded from harm. This is the promise of hope over fear. This is the promise of love which overcomes all. This is the promise of faith which overcomes doubt. This is the promise of light which overcomes darkness. This is the promise of peace which overcomes war.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. That sure beats a shadow government any day.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:42 PM
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21. and the rest of the story


Words of Cosmic Consciousness - from a Politician and Member of Congress

Praxis Peace Institute Conference
Dubrovnik, Croatia
Sunday, June 9, 2002

" S p i r i t a n d S t a r d u s t "

We extend our hands upwards and we are showered with abundance. We ask and we receive. A universe of plenty flows to us, through us. It is in us. We become filled with endless possibilities. We need to remember where we came from; to know that we are one. To understand that we are of an undivided whole: race, color, nationality,creed, gender are beams of light, refracted through one great prism. We begin as perfect and journey through life to become more perfect in the singularity of "I" and in the multiplicity of "we"; a more perfect union of matter and spirit. - - This is
human striving. This is where, in Shelley's words, " . . . hope creates from its own wreck the thing it contemplates."



" . . . the world, which seems to lie before us like a land of dreams, so various, so beautiful, so new, hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light, nor certitude nor peace, nor help for pain. And we are here, as on a darkling plain, swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, where ignorant armies clash by night."


When death (not life) becomes inevitable, we are presented with an opportunity for great clarity, for a great awakening, to rescue the human spirit from the arms of Morpheus through love, through compassion and through integrating spiritual vision and active citizenship to restore peace to our world. The moment that one world is about to end, a new world is about to begin. We need to remember where we came from.

Because the path home is also the way to the future.


more
http://www.globenet.free-online.co.uk/articles/spiritan...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Space is part of PNAC. And SDI/STARWARS is a priority with RNC.
STARWARS
from the Raygun era, he went to SS cemetary at Bitburg :grr:
by Dr. Nick Begich
http://www.adacomp.net/~mcherney/starwars.html
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:08 PM
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10. the redundancy law?
Edited on Tue May-25-04 03:09 PM by SheepyMcSheepster
:silly:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Pedagogy-yep, repetition and a CRS from behavior modification,
doc.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:47 PM
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22. HEE HEE HAA HAA HAA HAA
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:

Stop it, I can't stand it.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Just when I thought the conspiracy theories couldn't get any wackier.

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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. I think they are serious
But I'm not sure if this is a joke or not...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:05 PM
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25. Thinking someone can control another's mind - how tinfoil!




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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. Through Commando Solo?
I think not...

But then again there are those who kill because of a secret message in Helter Skelter...and we know who those types are.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:29 PM
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30. Moon Shadow
Edited on Tue May-25-04 04:41 PM by seemslikeadream
Moon Shadow
The Rev, Bush & North Korea
by WAYNE MADSEN



Moon's own background, which reportedly includes links to both the Korean CIA and its American counterpart, parallels that of other ethically-tainted individuals who have once again found sanctuary in a Bush administration: Elliott Abrams, John Poindexter, Otto Reich, and John Negroponte, all of Iran-contra infamy. The Washington Times was a leading supporter of the Nicaraguan contras and a chief apologist for the perpetrators of the arms-for-hostages scandal. Violating one of the main canons of journalism -- that newspapers should not become part of or create their own stories -- the Washington Times established the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund to funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars to the contras circumventing the Boland Amendment that prohibited Federal money for the rightist guerrillas. Moon was also one of the few influential people who continued to defend Richard Nixon even as the President was resigning over the Watergate scandal.

In addition to his media empire, Moon also owns a Jonestown-type compound in Brazil called New Hope. He has also invested in the sparsely-populated and impoverished Marshall Islands. He has infiltrated one of the secessionist movements fighting for independence for the Angolan enclave of Cabinda. Moon's favorites in Africa included some of the CIA's most reliable clients: UNITA in Angola and RENAMO in Mozambique. Moon's fronts even maintained a dialogue with Pol Pot's murderous Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. The Khmer Rouge murdered 3 million Cambodians. More surprisingly, Moon reportedly partly owns a hotel in Pyongyang and a North Korean Fiat automobile plant. His flirtation with mind control techniques is legendary. Parents have spent millions trying to deprogram their children from the effects of Moon's Pavlovian brain bending methods. Moon's mass marriages of unwitting American males to Korean wives, while humorous on the surface, nevertheless managed to trap Zambian Roman Catholic Bishop Emmanuel Milingo. At least one pre-eminent Washington Times reporter is said to have been enticed into one of his boss's mass marriage ceremonies.

At the 20th anniversary celebration of The Washington Times held last year in Washington, Moon seemingly endlessly spoke in Korean at the alcohol-free affair. He said The Washington Times would "spread the truth about God to the world." But in Moon's world, he is God. President Bush sent a message to the banquet stating, "Since 1982, people across America and throughout the world have relied on The Washington Times as a distinguished source of information and opinion."

Bush seems to value Moon's commitment to family values. Bush named David Caprara, the head of Moon's American Family Coalition, as the director of VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America). Moon's commitment to family values was exemplified at his 20th anniversary celebration of The Washington Times. The keynote speaker was Dr. Laura Schlessinger, the holier-than-thou radio talk show host who is the psychiatric part of the daily ration of right wing AM radio venom that is complemented by the political indoctrination of Rush Limbaugh and his clones. Schlessinger's own commitment to family values was highlighted recently when she claimed the body of her 77-year-old mother from the Los Angeles County morgue after it had remained there for ten days after her unattended death in her condominium. Schlessinger, who lectures callers on how to keep their families together and wholesome, had not seen her own mother since 1984.

To Moon, however, disowning one's parents is a hallmark of his brainwashing techniques. In 1973, while a college student in Mississippi, I was once lured into a Moon recruiting function. I met a young Jewish girl from New Jersey who was traveling around the country in a van with her fellow Moon adherents. As a native of New Jersey myself, I asked the young woman what her parents thought about her roaming about the country. She replied, "Parents, I have no parents. Reverend Moon is my family." I wanted to call the nearest rabbi to help the poor girl get home to her parents who must have been worried sick. Nevertheless, Bush believes that Moon's family value system is credible enough to appoint one of his adherents to head VISTA.

more
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen01142003.html

Bush Speeches

While negotiating those business deals with North Korea in the 1990s, Moons organization also hired former President George H.W. Bush and former First Lady Barbara Bush to give speeches at Moon-sponsored events.

During one Moon-sponsored speech in Argentina in November 1996, former President Bush declared, I want to salute Reverend Moon, whom Bush praised as the man with the vision.

The father of the incoming U.S. president has refused to divulge how much Moons organization paid for these speeches which were delivered in the United States, Asia and South America.

Some press estimates have put the fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, though one former leader of Moons Unification Church told me that the organization had earmarked $10 million for the former president.

Ex-President Bushs pro-Moon speeches came at a time, too, when Moon now 80 was expressing intensely anti-American views. In the mid-1990s, Moon denounced the United States as Satans harvest and condemned American women as having descended from a line of prostitutes.

In a speech to his followers on Aug. 4, 1996, Moon vowed to liquidate American individuality, declaring that his movement would swallow entire America. Moon said Americans who insisted on their privacy and extreme individualism will be digested.
Bush Speeches

While negotiating those business deals with North Korea in the 1990s, Moons organization also hired former President George H.W. Bush and former First Lady Barbara Bush to give speeches at Moon-sponsored events.

During one Moon-sponsored speech in Argentina in November 1996, former President Bush declared, I want to salute Reverend Moon, whom Bush praised as the man with the vision.

The father of the incoming U.S. president has refused to divulge how much Moons organization paid for these speeches which were delivered in the United States, Asia and South America.

Some press estimates have put the fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, though one former leader of Moons Unification Church told me that the organization had earmarked $10 million for the former president.

Ex-President Bushs pro-Moon speeches came at a time, too, when Moon now 80 was expressing intensely anti-American views. In the mid-1990s, Moon denounced the United States as Satans harvest and condemned American women as having descended from a line of prostitutes.

In a speech to his followers on Aug. 4, 1996, Moon vowed to liquidate American individuality, declaring that his movement would swallow entire America. Moon said Americans who insisted on their privacy and extreme individualism will be digested.
Bush Speeches

While negotiating those business deals with North Korea in the 1990s, Moons organization also hired former President George H.W. Bush and former First Lady Barbara Bush to give speeches at Moon-sponsored events.

During one Moon-sponsored speech in Argentina in November 1996, former President Bush declared, I want to salute Reverend Moon, whom Bush praised as the man with the vision.

The father of the incoming U.S. president has refused to divulge how much Moons organization paid for these speeches which were delivered in the United States, Asia and South America.

Some press estimates have put the fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, though one former leader of Moons Unification Church told me that the organization had earmarked $10 million for the former president.

Ex-President Bushs pro-Moon speeches came at a time, too, when Moon now 80 was expressing intensely anti-American views. In the mid-1990s, Moon denounced the United States as Satans harvest and condemned American women as having descended from a line of prostitutes.

In a speech to his followers on Aug. 4, 1996, Moon vowed to liquidate American individuality, declaring that his movement would swallow entire America. Moon said Americans who insisted on their privacy and extreme individualism will be digested.
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0103-07.htm


Reverend Moon

"The Dark side of the Moon"

The wedding blessing pt.1

Reverend Moon has drawn over 2 million people to his weddings since 1995. On August 25, 1992 in Seoul's Olympic Stadium, The Reverend Sun Myung Moon "blessed" 30,000 couples at one time. 20,000 were present in the stadium and 10,000 via satellite. Rev. Moon's latest episode of his gospel was marrying 30,000 at one time in couples in Washington RFK stadium.

These public wedding ceremonies began on July 1, 1982 when Sun Myung Moon and his wife Hak Ja Han married, 2,075 couples at one time at Madison Square Garden, New York City. At the time the reaction was not favorable from those who respect the marriage ceremony. Having a non personal marriage just didn't sit right with most people. However, that was then. Since gaining media coverage it has become widely accepted and even sought after. As a superstitious blessing accompanies this rite from the Rev. So many who cannot be present are blessed to participate in a mass wedding ceremony through satellite linkup. Moon has said of his marriage ceremonies, "No religious leader nor the president of any nation can accomplish such a feat."( Proclamation of the Messiah by Reverend Sun Myung Moon).

These are arranged marriages where most of the couples do not even know their spouse until that very day. This is said to be done so that they will base their relationships on internal aspects since they dont even know what they will look like. Many have complained that they had been given wives who do not speak the same language as they do. Moon calls it a match made in heaven, I see it as quite a bit lower than that. Moon was first charging $170 admission but when the crowds did not come he dropped the price to a $20 wedding special. Blessed weddings by the new messiah were on sale.

In 1995, more than 720,000 people were married via satellite at 545 sites in over 100 countries, 10,000 were American. two-thirds of the participants were renewing their vows. Moon and his wife spent over a year matching people for their perfect marriage. This was done using photographs categorized by sex, age and nationality." This blessing does not come free or even what one would pay a minister in a normal ceremony. This is the Rev. Moon who specializes in marriages. It cost Japanese couples $29,000 each Americans paid $2,000. I guess he charges by the nations economy. Church officials say the money goes for satellite charges and the costs for 200,000 African couples, but a number of Protestant churches in Korea said that the ceremonies, which have brought the church $1.3 billion throughout the years, are just a way for the church to make money. (reported in 9/25/95, Christian News, p. 14.)

Worldwide, there has been more than 360 million couples who have accepted Reverend and Dr. Moon's (his wife) blessing on their marriage.

In one of his recent ceremonies Whitney Housten was to sing for a fee of almost a million dollars but canceled at the last minute being sick. Louis Farrakhan appeared on stage giving support by his presence there seemingly finding solace in this Messiah wanna be.

So what is the mystique of the marriage performed by Rev, Moon? "What is the meaning of the Blessing? Blessing means coming from God through the True Parents." (Rev. Joong Hyun Pak, "The Year of Great Blessing", Unification News, January, 1997, p. 6.) Since 1960 the Blessing has been offered because this is when the "marriage of the Lamb" prophesied in the book of Revelation happened. Moon married his second wife Hak Ja Han who was a 17 year-old devoted follower of his religion. Rev. Moon claims that his wedding to Hak Ja Han appointed them as the true parents of mankind.( Some say this is wife # 2 others report her to be wife #4 as he divorced the first three) Moon is now 80, and his wife Hak Ja Han is 47, they live in Irvington, New York

"Known as True Parents to Unification members, administer the Blessing as a conduit for communicating divine grace and support to families. The term True Parents designates a couple which manifests God's ideal of true love in the family. The Blessing initiates each couple on the path to become True Parents and establish true families in their own right." (Marriage family and world peace International Religious Foundation)

From this "so called" God given mission he brings the people of the world together therefore this is called the tribal Messiahship. Moon considers himself a restorer appointed by God. "I am now making a prototype of the perfect family, accomplishing what Jesus could not do." (Sun Myung Moon, from the Unification Church Magazine, Today's World, May, 1995, p.12.) Moon claims to be the Messiah of the new advent, "The Blessing means everything to us... The Messiah comes to give the Blessing to everyone who will receive it." (Rev. Joong Hyun Pak, "The Open Blessing", Unification News, Aug. 1997, p. 4. )

"True Parents have received the absolute Blessing from God and come as God's physical representatives on the Earth to give that Blessing to others, changing the blood lineage from Satan to God." (Rev. Joong Hyun Pak, "Volunteering to Save the American Family", Unification News, June, 1997, p. 4.) The 2 hour plus mass blessing given by Moon to participating couples is called a moment of rebirth. The Bible describes the "moment of rebirth" when a person receives the real Jesus Christ as his Savior for his sins and has spiritual rebirth, not a marriage ceremony. (John 3).

In 1992 the Rev. Moons Blessing was offered to couples that practice other faiths and hold to similar views of marriage and family. Those who participate are not expected to become part of the Unification Church. Although to participate in the ceremony does lend credence to his mission and image.

They invite the many people from every religion, nation and race in this glorious testimony to the Divine purpose of establishing world peace. We invite you to join in building one great loving family of humankind, under the Blessed grace of Heaven -- the One True and Loving God. (Marriage family and world peace. International Religious Foundation)

So we can see that the ceremony has a religious importance, more than any religion gives to the sanctity of marriage, " However the theology of this ceremony goes much deeper and has a greater significance than even Jesus' death on the cross. "The external form is similar to a marriage ceremony, but the Unification Church Blessing Ceremony is far beyond a simple marriage and has deep significant meaning." (Rev. Chung Hwan Kwak, "The Internal Meaning of the Holy Wine Ceremony, Part II", Today's World, June, 1997, p. 2.)

Because of Adam's fall Moon teaches "We have inherited Satan's blood lineage." (Sun Myung Moon, Today's World, June 1996, p. 4) . "God expelled fallen Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden. ...all the ancestors of humankind came to inherit the lineage of Satan. Their blood lineage was corrupted." (Sun Myung Moon, Today's World, May/June 1994, p. 22) Thus " the ceremony to change the blood lineage is done with the name of True Parents" (Sun Myung Moon, Today's World, June, 1997, p. 9).

"To realize the Blessing of Marriage we need: 1. to accept True Parents as the center of God's Providence. 2) attend the Holy Wine Ceremony and experience rebirth so as to switch our lineage from the false to the true. 3) pass through the gate of the Blessing Ceremony officiated by True Parents to become an eternal Blessed Couple. ..." (Rev. Joong Hyun Pak, "The Year of Great Blessing", Unification News, January, 1997, p. 6.)

"Through the blessing of new marriages that pass on God's original blood lineage, the True Parents will be able to give salvation to all humanity." (Sun Myung Moon, "View of the Principle of the Providential History of Salvation", Today's World, May, 1996, p. 10.) So through the marriage ceremony one receives salvation and is translated into the exclusive (and sinful) kingdom of Moon. Who according to his own opinion is the Messiah. "Thus, it is the International Holy Blessing that establishes this new blood lineage when the Lord of the Second Advent comes in the flesh." (Ibid. pp. 17-18)

We need to be reborn. Today's Holy Wine Ceremony is very important. This is the process of rebirth. Under Heavenly Father's and True Parents' grace, we can change our fallen blood lineage; we can change our life from the satanic dominion to Heavenly Father's dominion." ...The original human ancestors, Adam and Eve, received the fallen blood lineage from the archangel--Eve first and then Adam. In the Holy Wine Ceremony, the process of restoration is that the wife first receives the Holy Wine and the husband receives it from her." (Rev. Chung Hwan Kwak, "The Internal Meaning of the Holy Wine Ceremony, Part II", Today's World, June, 1997, p.2.)

Before receiving the Blessing, we went through the Holy Wine Ceremony. Through this ceremony, we were born again into God's pure lineage and then we received the blessing...Blessing then means that we change the satanic false lineage and receive the blessing of the true lineage through True Parents....Therefore, we need True Parents in order to receive God's heavenly pure lineage." (Rev. Joong Hyun Pak, "The Year of Great Blessing", Unification News, January, 1997, p.60).
"After the Blessing the couples spend a period of time, usually forty days, abstaining from sexual contact, and during this time each spouse prepares in a prayerful way for a pure, new start to married life. After this period of time, a three-day ceremony is performed privately by the husband and wife, thus completing the process of the Blessing" (Marriage family and world peace. International Religious Foundation). Imagine just getting married and not consummating the marriage, Bible verse for this will be found right next to all the other teachings he received in Revelation chapter 23.

Former members of the church have come out to say the marriage ceremony at one time included a secret ritual where the husband had to first hit his wife with a baseball bat three times as hard as he could on the buttocks. If she passed out in between, he would wait and then continue. Then it was the wife's turn, and if she was too weak from the beating, a 'brother' (other member) had to take her place to perform the rite. what is the rationale for this? It is reported that they are chasing the Devil away.

Last year Moon's second youngest son (of thirteen children) Young Jin Moon of 21 had committed suicide by jumping from the 17th floor of Harrah's Casino/Hotel in Reno, Nevada. Instead of finding fault in his son, the Moonies representative Tyler Hendricks said, It is because the members didn't fulfill their responsibilities, that is why Moon's son is dead. This is a tragedy

One can only wonder if it was the pressure of being Moon's son or depression of being Moons son? Moon had selected Young Jin Nim's wife and married him giving the Blessing to both of his sons Hyung Jin Nim, Young Jin Nim together in a joint ceremony.

One of Moon's daughters, Ye Jin, is said to have denounced her father while another, Sun-Jin, left her husband only weeks after having received her "blessing" (The Sunday Telegraph, November 5, 1995, cited in Fair News, Summer 1996).

Rev. Moon, teaches that he and his family are without sin. Obviously with all the failures in morality and marriage they are not. Biblically if you are without sin you will not die.

ANOTHER WORLD

The Unification Church is one of the most bizarre mind control cults in all history. The Unification Church has successfully done a PR job to have the public be unaware of their teachings and support their cause. With family values in the forefront this is all the public knows about them. Most people are totally unaware of the true teachings of the Rev. If people were able to read his speeches and his theology which he claims is true Christianity), they would be aghast.

It has been estimated, conservatively, "that those Moonies on the street corners, in shopping malls, and in supermarkets, selling candles and flowers, yield for the Church over a million dollars every five days" (Heavenly Deception, p. 60). Moonies take in over of a billion dollars a year from their workers selling trinkets and flowers. Im sure you have drove pass their flower stands many times. But this is not where they get their money to support their 350 companies worldwide.

Through deceptive recruiting techniques and calculated false teachings one can become indoctrinated quickly into the unification church. Members are stripped of their critical thinking ability and made into Moons religious activists within a very short time. They can worked up to 18 to 20 hours on average, all 7 days a week. They are so busy that they either have no time or are not allowed to see their family and friends. They have become part of the New Messiah's family.

This is the family of Mr. And Mrs. Moon becomes a dedicated army, a growing number of young people soliciting donations for the Unification Church. Typically, a donation was requested in exchange for an item such as candy or flowers, to aid some endeavor or organization. These are often fictitious needs, which they allegedly represent. These fund raising tactics, are still used today on an unsuspecting public, and continue to help fund the efforts of the Unification Church. They will usually say they are here attending the college as a foreign exchange student as they ask for help. I have found them to be less then genuine in their presentation.

If you find Unification church workers that you see looking tired, thin, spaced out like no one is home. This is because they work long days with often little sleep. They are known to take 7 and 21 day fasts of water and are malnourished. But this is all done by choice in their service to the new Messiah.

more
http://www.letusreason.org/Moon.htm
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:01 PM
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32. And that has WHAT to do with Commando Solo?
Creepers!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:06 PM
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33. Could you reference where I said
a word about Commando Solo?

Creepers!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:10 PM
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34. Your perceptions are yours alone LagaLover.
Our perceptions are being manipulated for a political agenda-that's mind control.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:13 PM
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35. Primary Function: Psychological operations broadcasts.
Edited on Tue May-25-04 05:17 PM by seemslikeadream
EC-130 Commando Solo



The EC-130 Commando Solo conducts psychological operations and civil affairs broadcast missions in the standard AM, FM, HF, TV and military communications bands. Missions are flown at maximum altitudes possible to ensure optimum propagation patterns. The EC-130 flies during either day or night scenarios with equal success, and is air refuelable. A typical mission consists of a single-ship orbit which is offset from the desired target audience. The targets may be either military or civilian personnel. Secondary missions include command and control communications countermeasures (C3CM) and limited intelligence gathering. The three variants are EC-130 ABCCC, EC-130E Commando Solo, and the EC-130H Compass Call. The EC-130 was originally modified using the mission electronic equipment from the EC-121 Coronet Solo. Soon after the 193rd SOG received its EC-130s, the unit participated in the rescue of US citizens in Operation Urgent Fury, acting as an airborne radio station informing those people on Grenada of the US military action. Commando Solo was instrumental in the success of coordinated psychological operations in Operation Just Cause, again broadcasting continuously throughout the initial phases of the operation to help end the Manuel Noriega regime. Most recently, in 1994, Commando Solo was utilized to broadcast radio and television messages to the citizens and leaders of Haiti during Operation Uphold Democracy. The EC-130s deployed early in the operation, highlighting the importance of PSYOP in avoiding military and civilian casualties. President Aristide was featured on the broadcasts which contributed significantly to the orderly transition from military rule to democracy. In 1990 the EC-130 joined the newly formed Air Force Special Operations Command and has since been designated Commando Solo, with no change in mission. This one-of-a-kind aircraft is consistently improving its capabilities. The next few years should see continued enhancements to the EC-130 and its worldwide mission. Highly specialized modifications have been made to the latest version of the EC-130 (Commando Solo). Included in these mods are enhanced navigation systems, self-protection equipment, and the capability of broadcasting color television on a multitude of worldwide standards through out the TV VHF/UHF ranges. The ABCCC is an Airborne Battlefield Command and Control Center used as an airborne command post. Last, but not least, Compass Call is an airborne communications jamming platform. It was used extensively in the Gulf War disrupting Iraqi communications at both the strategic and tactical levels.
Specifications
Primary Function: Psychological operations broadcasts.
Contractor: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Company.
Power Plant: Four Allison T56-A-15 turboprops; 4,910 shaft horsepower (3,660 kW) per engine.
Length: 100.5 feet (30.6 m)
Height: 38.3 feet (11.7 m)
Wingspan: 132.5 feet (40.4 m)
Speed: 299 mph (481 km/h) at 20,000 feet (6,000 m)
Ceiling: 20,000 feet (6,000 m)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 155,000 pounds (70 t)
Range: 2,100 miles (3,400 km)
Crew / Cost
Crew: Four officers (pilot, copilot, navigator, mission control chief/EWO); seven enlisted (flight engineer, loadmaster, five mission crew).
Unit Flyaway Cost: More than US$70 million.
Date Deployed: 1992

http://www.sciencedaily.com/encyclopedia/ec_130_command...



Is he/she talking about this bob?



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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:16 PM
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36. Yes-but Rumsfeld broadcast from an advanced Commando Solo II!
They could have been used over Florida in 2000!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:24 PM
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37. Oh yes Commando Solo II
I had just posted some pictures of them.



Air Force Special Ops
A week with the U.S. Air Force's little-known commando unit.
BY SCOTT GOURLEY
Photos by James A. Sugar

Rounding out the AFSOC air assets are the MC-130P Combat Shadow and the EC-130 Commando Solo. The Combat Shadow penetrates hostile lines to provide midair refueling for special operations helicopters, while the Commando Solo provides a sky-based radio and television station for psychological operations and civil affairs messages.




http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/2002/4...

They have such big guns.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:47 PM
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38. Aerial PSYOPS and the legacy of Col. Aquino in US Army M.I., Defense
Intelligence Agency and worldwide criminal cults. :grr: This guy took over the former Church of Satan and replaced it with his own Temple of Set while on active duty in 1975.

Temple of Set Statement to the US Armed Forces (see Temple of Set)
http://www.nightspell.dhs.org /

Temple of Set history
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/satanis...

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id163/pg1 /

"Refutation" of charges alleging Nazi and fascist ideologies within Temple of Set
http://www.necronomi.com/magic/satanism/fascist.set.txt

PSYOPS: The "Temple of Set" and mob psychology
http://www.answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadvi...

Michael Aquino and his wife, Lillith, were implicated in The Presidio molestation case, but never charged.

Michael Aquino was a big part of the illegal MH CHAOS.

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:48 PM
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39. Mind Control
In October 1996 the respectable, Paris-based Intelligence Newsletter alluded to "lurid reports" that Boorda "was murdered because he was about to reveal sinister undertakings by the Navy in mind control and brain warfare." It disclosed that the admiral "was deeply involved in a study on the possibilities of cognitive warfare, a form of mind control that uses acoustical, optical and electromagnetic fields or a combination oof the three to interfere with the biological processes of an enemy.

"Getting Inside the Enemy's Head, "Intelligence Newletter No. 296, 10/3/96 (published by Indigo Publication of France

This information provides a compelling reason to see the medals controversy as a bogus motivation for suicide. Corroboration for the existence of "cognitive warfare" can be found in the New World Vistas, a 16-volume, 1996 Air Force publication. The section on "biological process control" says that it is possible "to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...(making it possible to "talk" to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them.

Excerpt from New World Vistas:Air and Space Power for the 21st Century, 1996, Ancillary Volumne, section on" biological process control" See also "US Air Force looks to the battlefields of the future, "Microwave News, Jan/Feb. 1997, p.14
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:59 PM
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40. It even gets into the paranormal-the real X-files like STAR GATE
and SAIC'S Cognitive Science Laboratory is a commercial spin-off
http://www.lfr.org/csl/index.shtml
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:11 PM
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41. Yeah MH CHAOS in the summer of 1969 for instance, approved
Edited on Tue May-25-04 06:13 PM by bobthedrummer
by President Richard M. Nixon as part of the Huston Plan (the illegal domestic programs of the supression of political dissidents using every resource of the federal government)-Manson type families were all over the place simultaneously then--the summer of 1969.

You can take it to the bank, LagaLover. Been there, done that.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:05 PM
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26. People won't listen until it's too late
Edited on Tue May-25-04 04:07 PM by redqueen
Isn't that always the way?

I mean, it's one thing to say it's suspect, but quite another to blow it off entirely, based on nothing but prejudice, isn't it?

Look up: ELF, GWEN, HAARP, millimeter waves & microwaves... no shortage of research that could be used maliciously ... will we wait until they perfect it to get outraged?

:(
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:09 PM
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27. Most of it is what is called "dual use technology"
:hi:redqueen
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:57 PM
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31. There are US human rights activists specializing in mind control related
issues and advocacy for survivors is recognized by UNHRC
http://www.mindjustice.org/
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