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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:45 AM
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The 2008 ticket that could have the left quaking in their boots
McCain/Powell or vice versa. They would be pretty hard to peel moderate voters away from.

Do you think this ticket could happen, or will the BFEE set us up with Ridge and Ashcroft or something? (Now THAT is a REALLY scary ticket.)
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:47 AM
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1. the base would abandon them
the GOP leadership would never let it happen
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:47 AM
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2. Scum ticket
a Repuke and an Uncle Tom who lied to the world to please his white master.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:02 PM
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14. do you have to call him an Uncle Tom?
was that necessary?
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:48 PM
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22. isn't it what he is?
you can refute it, but don't complain about my first amendment rights to call Powell whatever I choose to.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:47 AM
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3. Jeb
Look for another Bush in 2008.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:47 AM
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4. Who would be quaking?
Powell is enabler that should have left when he understood they wouldnt listen to him an McCain isnt going to run for anything but his own senate seat.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:48 AM
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5. Who cares?
Let's just get through one Presidential cycle at a time. Besides, the neo-cons own the party now and it would never happen.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:48 AM
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6. At least it would neutralize the neocons
There will probably be a major split in the GOP after 2004. Will benefit Dems in the long run.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:48 AM
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7. Nah. Bush is almost as scary as it gets.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:48 AM
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8. It will be Jeb Bush. The Bush family pretty much controls the GOP.
Through their ties to corporate interests and the religious right.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:49 PM
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23. No even Jeb is too corrupt and 'filthy' to consider running for prexy, he
can't afford the scrutiny, having far dirtier hands than his brother george even.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:49 AM
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9. After 12 years of Reagan/Bush, 4 yrs of Clinton, then 4 years of Dubya
I don't think there is any Presidential ticket that will leave the Left 'quaking in their boots'.

Maybe a sigh of resignation, a nod to the Sisyphusian nature of human progress, or the gritting of one's teeth, perhaps.

But 'quaking in our boots'? Nope.

Good luck designing the 'ultimate Republican ticket' however... :eyes:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:54 AM
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11. So, you liked four years of Clinton, and hated the other four?
Or did I imagine we had eight glorious years under Clinton?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:06 PM
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15. 4 of the years were better than the other four
At least from a 'Left' perspective.

Granted, from many other perspectives, it was eight great years. Certainly in retrospect, I'd rather have him back in office than the dangerous idiot currently in the White House.

However, I can't say I was happy about what Clinton did to welfare, nor was I happy about many aspects of his crime bills. I became quite angry with him during the whole 'Communications Decency Act' business -- and the same with their 'Clipper Chip' initiative.

Clinton was a centrist who often tried to appear to be leaning Left, and the fact he was a Democrat made it all the more difficult to oppose one of his policies if you didn't agree with it from a Left-perspective.

So after that experience, which ended as something of a disappointment for me given the (admittedly unrealistic) hopes I had for his presidency in 1992, and after Dubya, I can't imagine that anyone on the 'Left' has much quaking left to do in their boots!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:36 PM
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21. Well,
Yes, Clinton's terms ended with a bit of disappointment, but that's what we were grooming Gore for. Pisses me off even more about Florida, because Gore was the payoff for the compromises Clinton had to make.

As for Clinton being a centrist pretending to lean left, I think he was the opposite. I think he had to lean centrist to get anything done. He was aggresively leftist at first, but when the moderate Dems (and DINOs like Nunn) turned on him, then lost Congress, his job became more of an effort to fight off the rightwing onslaught than advance our cause. By the end he was just going along to get along, and trying to be as moderate as possible to help Gore get into office.

Then Nader traitor came along, and the Florida thiefs came along, and they stole the election from us, so we are back to square one, trying to install someone to pretend to be centrist long enough for us to move this nation back to the left.

I agree with you on Clinton's second term, though. It was not fulfilling. Having survived Reagan, though, it was still like being freed from prison, although in a land not of your own choosing.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:51 AM
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10. McCain got blasted hard by his own party...
...for bringing up campaign finance reform. The GOP will NEVER let him run, not even on a vice presidential ticket. They already have once. I sort of like him because of that.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:59 AM
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12. Mitt Romney from Massachusetts will be in the ring
And that guy is a scary SOB!!!!!!

How he ever got elected in Massachusetts is BEYOND ME!!!!

I was a big Robert Reich supporter. But Romney had the Olympics and the gullible voter fell for everything . . .aaaahhhh!!!!!!!

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:06 PM
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16. Yeah, while the repukes were bitching about Hillary being in New York....
...Mitt the Shit, who was on the SLC Olympic committee in some capacity because he lived in UTAH suddenly recieved Elohim's blessing to move his 4 wives and 16 kids to "Taxachussettes".
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:01 PM
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13. Huh? What's so scary about this ticket?
Powell's a proven liar. McCain is a fence sitter, made to appear crazy by BushCo.
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birdbrain Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:08 PM
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17. Don't think so - Powell will be in jail (nt)
ya heard it here first...
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:50 PM
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24. For what?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:34 PM
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18. McCain is the Zell Miller of the GOP
at least as far as his popularity within the party. Even if he would be the best candidate in the general election, he would never win the primaries. Especially not now.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:35 PM
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19. McCain will be over 70 at that point
Edited on Tue May-25-04 12:36 PM by IrateCitizen
I doubt he'll be interested in public office much longer at that point.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:36 PM
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20. Good point
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