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Undercutter Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:07 AM
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unconventional behavior
Edited on Tue May-25-04 12:22 PM by Skinner
Democratic Party leader Terry McAuliffe was caught off guard last week when word leaked that the campaign of presumptive presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry was considering a plan to continue unlimited fundraising and spending via a delay in accepting the party's presidential nomination.

By delaying acceptance of the nomination for what amounts to about six weeks -- late July 'til September 1 -- Kerry could spend as much as $30 million in campaign funds his campaign would collect. Then, Kerry would accept the $75 million in federal funds both candidates would receive for the two-month stretch run to the November election.

McAuliffe spent the weekend, according to DNC and party convention planners in Boston, attempting to tamp down the growing anger in Boston that the Kerry campaign's plan was going to deny the city millions of dollars lost due to smaller turnout at the convention.

"We were already looking at the city actually losing money on this thing," says a Boston-based convention planner. "Now this Kerry plan would almost ensure a huge loss. Without a nomination process at the convention, there is no need for state parties to finance big trips here. This could be a disaster. What's more annoying is that this is a plan put out by a candidate from Boston."

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:14 AM
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1. Did you write this or copy it from a paper?
If it's copied, please provide a link and it needs to be edited dow to four paragraphs.
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Undercutter Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:20 AM
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2. lol
i don't remember where i copied it from, some newspaper.

you do realize that 'editing down to 4 paragraphs' is easily accomplished by combining paragraphs ?.....
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:29 AM
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3. It's one of DU's rules not mine
COPYRIGHT ISSUES AND BANDWIDTH THEFT

Don't post entire copyrighted articles. If you wish to reference an article, provide a brief excerpt and include a link to the original source. Generally, excerpts should not exceed three or four paragraphs.

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Undercutter Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:35 AM
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5. ok
well, my point is, if kerry can hold a nomination convention without being nominated, then i can post the whole article and leave just one sentence out, and call it an 'excerpt', and combine the rest of the article in 3 or 4 paragraphs.

this whole 'i decline the nomination before i accept it' just looks silly any way you look at it and plays right into republican hands. right now nobody really knows about this except for the people who actually follow the news (a pretty small minority in this country actually), but once the convention comes and people realize he is not taking the nomination 'yet' it's going to be a public relations disaster.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:47 AM
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7. I'm not terribly fond of the idea
since I really wish we had ACTUAL campaign finance reform...but since we don't, and George Bush has committed himself to making this the most expensive campaign in history, we need options.

I view this as one of them.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:54 PM
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14. Kerry will be nominated either way. The only difference is
Kerry will be nominated either way. The only difference is whether he says,

"I accept the nomination."


or

"I will accept the nomination."

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:32 AM
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4. Just a friendly reminder that excerpts must be limited to 4 paragraphs
and they need to be properly attributed to the author and publication source.

Thanks for your cooperation. :hi:
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Undercutter Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:38 AM
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6. ok
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:49 AM
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8. Now isn't that interesting. It's from the American Spectator
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6606

Along with a lovely picture of their latest cover titled "Rush is Wronged":

And a nice piece by Grover Norquist (Yes indeedy, THAT Grover Norquist. He of drowning the government in the bathtub fame.)

Gotcha!
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Undercutter Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:53 AM
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9. that makes sense
since i copied that article from one of the conservative websites i think.

still it is true in essence, boston is really not feeling this decision
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 01:04 AM
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10. "boston is really not feeling this decision"
Can you elaborate? Sounds like something pResident Dimson would say.
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Undercutter Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 01:11 AM
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11. who's
president dimson?
are you referring to the chinese prime minister?

here are some nytimes articles

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/25/politics/campaign/25b...

While city officials forecast that the convention will bring $154 million in revenue to the city, two recent studies say Boston could find itself in the red. David Tuerck, executive director of the Beacon Hill Institute at Suffolk University, which projects that the city will lose at least $34.3 million, said that a delay in accepting the nomination could be viewed as "political expediency trumping principle" and that it could provide the city a further financial setback

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Kerry-Conve...

The possibility that John Kerry may delay accepting the presidential nomination at the Democratic National Convention here is compounding the upset of city officials and business owners, who already are unhappily looking ahead to traffic tie-ups expected during the four-day gathering.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:43 PM
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12. Dimson is a house favorite for the selected boy-king.
Yeah, I'm sure the NYT and the Boston Globe (owned by the NYT) will be editorializing about the convention costs and how unhappy Bostonians are. Especially since Kerry would be the favorite son that's being nominated. They probably should forego a convention so as not to inconvenience the Republicans in Boston. :eyes:

Why not post about how unhappy New Yorkers are with Republicans having their convention there? Or using the 9/11 date to exploit it as their own personal symbol? Doubt you will see that written up in the Times.
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Undercutter Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:52 PM
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13. i hope
they organize protests big enough to kill the republican convention alltogether.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:56 PM
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15. It's a ridiculous notion that Boston will be affected in any way
It's a ridiculous notion that Boston will be affected in any way
by Kerry saying

"I accept" or "I will accept."

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