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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:22 PM
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GOOGLE censor update..."offensive content"
Edited on Mon May-24-04 09:38 PM by Atman
I posted last week that Google de-activated my two-month old ad campaign with a vaque message indicating anything from incorrect capitalization to offensive content as the reason. Well, I just received a reply to my "WTF" letter, after slightly longer than the 24 hours they claim they usually answer e-mail.

It looks more as if it really was an arbitrary decision. I was waiting to have to explain the issue of the capital letters in my URL, or concede that maybe one ad in the campaign saying Lyin' King and Chickenhawks might be a bit too harsh under their TOS. But I wasn't prepared for this...it wasn't actually the ad itself...

Google found the content of my site "offensive!" Explicitely, one bumper sticker I sell which says "Bush = Liar" was indicated as "offensive content."

Get this..."In order to comply with our guidelines, we ask that you remove the links
and products on your site which include language that advocates against
any individual or political group.
"

Also, "Google must make decisions about where we draw
the line in regard to the advertising we accept, both from a legal and
company values perspective.
" I pointed out in my reply that since it is a demonstrated fact that Bush has indeed lied in regard to the Iraq war, my ads must not be a legal problem for them. I deleted the line that asked if I could google how much Google gave to the GOP this year.

Now, can anyone explain to me how they accept ANY political advertising if the advertiser cannot advocate against an individual or group? I mean, really...another quote; does this make sense to you?..."We allow websites to promote or discuss particular individuals or political organizations, however, it is unacceptable when the language advocates against an individual or group. Products with slogans such as 'Bush = Liar' does not comply with our advertising policies."

It's like Alice In Wonderland.

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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:30 PM
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1. so are they removing FR?
or Rush, Anne, or Weiner?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:41 PM
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4. The issue is paid ads, not the main search results (nt)
nt
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:38 PM
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2. Google "Kerry is an idiot".. seriously..
I did that as a test the other day.. and lo and behold, a company that sells t-shirts with that saying on them, comes up on the first or second page of listings. I'm really surprised at them.. can you get FR on Google?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:40 PM
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3. Ask google to explain their ads for this website
Ask google to explain their ad for

http://www.republicangear.com

in response to the search term:
george w. bush

Their stickers include a
Bin Laden wants Kerry Sticker

and a

Liberal People Suck Sticker



http://www.republicangear.com/GOPSTICKERS.htm
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:42 PM
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5. Thanks...I shall!
And just did.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:59 PM
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6. I'd contact a lawyer too, once you get their reply...
sounds like something the ACLU lawyers would want to know about! ;-)
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republicansarewhores Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:06 PM
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7. You're not the only one....
Check this out.

http://www.webpronews.com/news/ebusinessnews/wpn-45-20040521GoogleDeniesAdWordsToDeckOfBushCreators.html

Google Denies AdWords To Deck Of Bush Creators

A group that created a satirical deck of cards with reasons not to re-elect President Bush has been denied an AdWords campaign by Google. This isn't the first time that a company that has been critical of the current President has been denied use of AdWords.

The creators of the deck in question has their own website which printed the dialogue between themselves and Google when they were denied ad services. The reason Google cites for this denial is that the content was unacceptable:

"At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain ‘language that advocates against an individual, group, or organization'. As noted in our advertising terms and conditions, we reserve the right to exercise editorial discretion when it comes to the advertising we accept on our site."

Deck of Bush co-creator Jerry Vasilatos had a myriad of responses to Google's decision:

"Now I know how Howard Stern feels. The hypocrisy regarding their definition that they do not permit the advertisement of websites containing ‘language that advocates against an individual, group, or organization' is completely contradictory, because they are allowing ad campaigns for products and items supportive of President Bush as well as items critical of Senator John Kerry."

A search for Senator Kerry found only supportive AdWord ads appearing. Although, the ads also featured a site that was selling "Bush You're Fired" bumper stickers. Can this be considered hypocritical on Google's part?

"We made our case requesting an explanation as to why Google allowed other campaigns that violated their definitions above, yet received a typical form-mail response." Vasilatos continues. "How could we possibly promote our website without the use of these keywords to drive traffic to our site when our content is directly related to President Bush? Either there's a flaw in the editorial process or someone at Google doesn't want to drive traffic to our site in a sponsored link we are willing to pay for. We've also submitted our URL several times to Google and our site will not come up while others meeting the same criteria supportive of President Bush and his policies do."

Google has enforced this policy before. The search engine pulled ads for Oceana, which took cruise lines to task for their pollution policies, as well as pulling ads from a politically satirical tshirt company. Y-Que, a company located in Southern California, sells shirts that are critical of the President and other candidates. Because Google found the company's content questionable, Y-Que had their ads pulled.

The ads that Google has pulled have all had something in common: they "advocate against a group". However, I fail to see how Google can justify using ads that say "Bush You're Fired" on them, but in the same stroke, pull other ads with similar content because they found the product objectionable, and/or it criticized an organization.

Because of the "Bush You're Fired" ads, it almost seems as if Google is picking and choosing who it will let advertise, instead of following their content guidelines. Or is it, as long as you are not too critical (Bush You're Fired is fairly tame), Google will allow you to use its AdWords program?

Update: The first search for John Kerry was conducted before 1pm EST. The latest search, conducted at 2:30 EST found only the "Bush You're Fired" AdWords ad remaining.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:07 PM
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8. Bush lied many times, and it's well documented. Send them this link
and ask them to refute it point by point if they intend to dispute the factuality of the political bumper sticker as a reason to not accept your ad.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=386951

Bush lies, therefore Bush = Liar.
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