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the ether Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:11 PM
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Iraq, The Marine's tale: 'I felt we were committing genocide'

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=523992

The Marine's tale: 'We killed 30 civilians in six weeks. 'I felt we were committing genocide'
By Natasha Saulnier

23 May 2004

During 12 years in the US Marines, including three years putting new recruits through boot camp, Staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey hardly questioned his role. But what he saw in Iraq changed that.

"In a month and a half my platoon and I killed more than 30 civilians," Mr Massey said. He saw bodies being desecrated and robbed, and wounded civilians being dumped by the roadside without medical treatment. After he told his commanding officer that he felt "we were committing genocide", he was called a "wimp".

Mr Massey, who was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress and depression, left the Marines in November. Back home in the Smoky Mountains of North Carolina, he says the cause of the uprising in Iraq is that "we killed a lot of innocent people".

His 7th Marine Weapons Company, armed with machine guns and missiles, was one of the first into the country in March last year. "We would take over villages and control checkpoints," he said. "My men and I would fire warning shots at oncoming vehicles. But, if they didn't stop, we didn't have any qualms about loading them up."

The Marines were told that Iraqis were filling ambulances with explosives, and that soldiers were dressed as civilians, but after pouring fire into vehicles and hearing no explosions, they started to doubt the truth of these claims.

"Iraqi military compounds had nothing in them, except for dismantled tanks, equipment that was barely functioning, and barracks that looked like ghost towns," Mr Massey said.

The incident that haunts him most took place early in April, near an Iraqi military compound five miles from Baghdad's airport. "There were approximately 10 demonstrators near a tank," he said. "We heard a shot in the distance and we started shooting at them. They all died except for one. We left the bodies there.

"We noticed that there were some RPGs about 200 metres away from them - they might have come from the military compound. The demonstrators had the ability to fire at us or at the tank, but they didn't. The survivor was hiding behind a column about 150 metres away from us. I pointed at him and waved my weapon to tell him to get away. Half of his foot had been cut off. He went away dragging his foot. We were all laughing and cheering.

"Then an 18-wheeler came speeding around. We shot at it. One of the guys jumped out. He was on fire. The driver was dead. Then a Toyota Corolla came. We killed the driver, the other guy came out with his hands up. We shot him too.

"A gunny from Lima Company came running and said to us: 'Hey, you just shot that guy, but he had his hands up.' My unit, my commander and me were relieved of our command for the rest of the day. Not more than five minutes later, the Lima Company took up our position and shot a car with one woman and two children. They all died."

The next day the platoon guarded a checkpoint at Baghdad Stadium. "A red Kia Spectra sped toward us at about 45mph. We fired a warning volley above it but the car kept coming. Then we aimed at the car and fired with full force. The Kia came to a stop right in front of me, three of the four men shot dead, the fourth wounded and covered in blood. We called the medics, but he died before they arrived. That day we killed three more civilians in the same circumstances. I talked to my captain afterwards and told him: 'It's a bad day.' He said: 'No, it's a good day.'"

Mr Massey watched as badly injured Iraqis were repeatedly "tossed on the side of the road without calling medics". His reaction to the event that triggered the recent siege of Fallujah - the sight of the blackened, mutilated bodies of four American private security men - was that "we did the same thing to them".

Iraqis, he said, "would see us debase their dead all the time. We would be messing around with charred bodies, kicking them out of the vehicles and sticking cigarettes in their mouths. I also saw vehicles drive over them. It was our job to look into the pockets of dead Iraqis to gather intelligence. However, time and time again, I saw Marines steal gold chains, watches and wallets full of money."

Several members of his platoon expressed concern that so many civilians were being killed, but Mr Massey says he told them: "We've got a job to do." Finally, however, he voiced his own doubts to his commanding officer. "I told him I felt like we were committing genocide in Iraq, that we were doing harm to a culture. He said nothing and walked away. I knew my career was over." Later, he says, his superior poured abuse on him, saying, "You're a poor leader. You're faking it. You're a conscientious objector, you're a wimp."

After being sent back to the US, Mr Massey was offered a desk job. "I had seven years until retirement from the Marine Corps, but I told them I didn't want their money any more," he said. The Marines' slogan - "No better friend, no worse enemy" - now embitters the former sergeant, who says remorse keeps him awake at night.

"One day we would go into a city and set up roadblocks where civilian casualties would take place, and then the next morning we would undertake a humanitarian mission," he said. "How do we expect people who've seen their brothers and mothers killed to turn around and welcome us with open arms?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:28 PM
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1. I realize he's showing remorse, but this view that you slay them with one
hand and give them humanitarian help with the other is just sheer folly. It's the cognitive dissonance that we've been discussing on this message board. What happened in Iraq is just an amplification of the mores of this society. Actually, that they even attempt humanitarian help is an improvement of what goes on around here.
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truthbetold Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:34 PM
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2. Wow.
There aren't words to describe how this makes me feel. Angry, sad, hopeless...is it ever going to end? Maybe the world has always been this sick and twisted, but I've never felt it as strongly until Bush took office and shoved it right under my nose.
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timusmc Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:45 PM
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3. Do you recall the day you became a Marine?
Listen up,

Stop your crying never forget whom you are. We are given a job to do and that's what we do. I was sent to fight in Korsav., Mugade, severed most of my tour in the middle east.

When Clinton got in trouble we were sent out to fight. I saw and lost many of my fellow Marines and other service persons to the same bastard that you say "committing genocide" on. Wake up and understand the truth.

Understand that most of the middle east wants your family dead.
All of them want you dead. 9/11 was just a wake up call. Look around the middle east that could be your home town. Iraq could be LA., Detroit, Atlanta, or even New York. Marines in service are not politicians nor are wimps. Grow a pair and stop spitting on those of us that Are Still "The Few, The Proud, God LOVES US " MARINES "
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