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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:32 PM
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Robert Mueller: Not Sneak N Peak but Delayed Notification
Watching Cspan on some committee meeting held earlier today about Patriot Act. Mueller doesn't like Sneak N Peak and Jeff Sessions discussing how a search would be performed but notify later. Sessions doesn't think a librarian deserves special privileges if someone wants to subpoena book records. Indicating that the searcher would have to go before a judge and get a warrant first, but the searchee would be (presumably) told later.

But isn't the issue that the warrants are SECRET, so the person has no knowledge of it, and cannot exercise 4th amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure?

Plus, I'm from TX and I recall full wall Bugman using the Patriot Act to try to track down the Democrats who didn't want to be strong-armed into gerrymandering the state map.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:35 PM
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1. Dick Durbin discusssing the reasonable time before notification
was 7 days before the govt had to come forward to say WHY they didn't notify about a search, but the Patriot Act does away with this (on Cspan).
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 11:41 PM
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2. One argument for the Patriot Act the Reps are using is that
they don't hear many complaints about it. Dick Durbin makes the point that the people who are having their rights violated don't necessarily know about it, because it's secret.
A second argument by Orrin Hatch is that the people who are against it, including the ACLU, use hypothetical examples, so therefore it must be okay. (Again, I cite Texas with Bugman)

Folks, listen up. If the argument is that no one is complaining, then we need to jump up and COMPLAIN to each one of our congressional people and in other venues. I refuse to let these people get away with thinking that there is little outcry against it and that people just don't understand the implications of the Patriot Act or they would be for it.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:42 AM
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3. i heard that today and almost drove off the road screaming at the XM
radio :argh:
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