I think The biggest scandal yet is going to

[crushbush04]

from this Ahmed Chalabi raid today in Iraq today.

He and his INC cronies are one of the sources of intelligence for WMD and it now turns out he might have been passing info to Iran.

Could it be by knowing Bush's predisposition for an invasion and his hate of Saddam the U.S. was duped into doing Irans bidding?

I have been doing web searches and checking this out since it broke this morning and the most in depth article I found is here
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120535,00.html

Its also interesting to check this out which happened earlier this week
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040518/wl_mideast_afp/i...  

[toddzilla]

1. uh, posting fox news links is...

dumb.

[havocmom]

2. yeah, a faux link is not gonna win friends not influence people around DU

and it might get the sniffer dogs after you. Just a word to the wise.

[Pepperbelly]

3. give 'em a break ...

and the poster might well be onto something. This thing today has me more perplexed than Bush trying to remember Who lyrics.

[crushbush04]

4. well read this...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3731819.stm

The Fox report was the most in depth and detailed report of this story I read today

[Jackpine Radical]

9. You're absolutely right.

The Fox story has the best information and analysis.

Personally, I take this as more evidence that Bush's owners have concluded that he and his PNAC buddies have become a liability.

[Pepperbelly]

10. that's also why I think the oil companies are raping us Bush style ...

they know that Bush the Lesser is toast and they are making hay while the sun shines.

[TexasProgresive]

7. did you read the article or did your

knee jerk reflexively and knock your computer on the floor? I have little use for "fair and balanced" but from the tone of this story it looks like they are moving more to legitimate reporting. I won't give them a free pass but I don't do that with anyone and your closed minded response is likely to make me discount anything you post.

If you want to do good analysis you have to read all sources not just those that pander to your way of thinking. Sometimes it all comes together in a picture of what is really happening. God or biology if you don't believe gave you a brain - try to use it.

[keithyboy]

21. If you are not with us--let the smearing begin!!

They are going to do a real smear job on Chalabi, probably end up blaming Clinton for the existence of Chalabi, and act as though he 'mis-led' the US.

[No2W2004]

5. well, lets add it up....

Chalabi is a known con-man, swindler, and weasle. He is wanted for banking fraud.

The neocon cabal were desperate for something, ANYTHING to justify invading Iraq since Saddam tried to kill Poppy Bush.

Iraq and Iran were involved in a horrible war of attrition. The Iranians wanted Saddam gone, but they couldn't do it themselves. Once Saddam was gone, they could flood Iraq with "Islamic Revolutionaries" to start another theocracy next door.

SO...the Iranians hire Chalabi to sell the Americans on the Iraqi WMDs (which isn't very hard), the neocons have their excuse to get rid of Saddam, and Iraq is on it's way to a theocracy.

Adds up to me!

[crushbush04]

8. Isnt is strange that

in his zealousness to go to war that Bush may have actually helped a member of the "axis of evil"...Iran become far more influential and powerful in the middle east.

In addition Iran is also burning the candle at both ends by funding the Al Sadr revolt.

[Cheswick2.0]

6. I think bush knew the information was bad

I think he didn't give a damn as long as he had a lie to tell the american people. I think Chalabi and the bush administration had a falling out and bush is going to frame him or kill him.

[crushbush04]

11. How do they now

cover their collective asses?

Who is the individual in our intelligence service that has been responsible for funding this swindler?

[Pepperbelly]

13. the way stuff's leaking ... Hersh will have it by Monday ... nt

[AlCzervik]

12. I bet that Chalabi told Cheney that he had

more of his moles in Iran and they were working on helping overthrow the Iranian Government. The pre-emptive doctrine has the domino theory built into it, one falls and they all do. What Cheney didnt count on from the reports today was Chalabi's double dealing. What balls Chalabi has, who does he think he is...Dick Cheney?

[mike1963]

16. Nothing new, really. We (!) jump in bed with whoever's handy to further

the agenda. When they get too uppity, too greedy, or too powerful, we slap 'em down. Maybe permanently, a la Noriega, or just for a while, as with Saddam (then reverse course as necessary.) Depends on whether they might be a future asset and how much it costs to keep them quiescent for a while.

Shah Pahlavi, Pinochet, Marcos, Sukarno/Suharto, ad nauseum...other pawns in the geopolitical olympics. There are many other former and current players in this sick game.

The only people who really want democracy are those who have no power to make it a reality. And that's the fallacy of the system.

[BillZBubb]

14. Just to play the devil's advocate:

Suppose this is all a psy-ops plan to establish Chalabi's bona fides with the Iraqis? That is, what better way to give your chosen puppet a chance to take over power later, than by setting him up now to be the most anti-occupation, mad at the US, Iraqi patriot that ever lived?

Given BushCo, that was my FIRST thought on this. Maybe I'm just too cynical?

[mike1963]

18. That won't fly. The Iraqi's are way too smart to fall for that. Our dear

leader and his gang of insane thugs fails to acknowledge that Iraq (as opposed to the 'civilized world') have had a civilization going back thousands of years. They are NOT 'savages' as some would have us believe.

I speak in necessary generality, of course...every nation/culture has a few nutballs..

[crushbush04]

20. Thats the most interesting theory

I have heard today. And damn, it does sound plausible.

I have noticed for months the anti US statements being made by Chalabi. which I thought was kinda suprising when you consider we were funding him.

Your theory is odd for a shortsighted adminstration but thought provoking nonetheless.

[Poiuyt]

15. Are we still paying Chalabi $350,000 per month?

And why were we paying him that much in the first place?

[crushbush04]

17. According to the Yahoo article

we stopped paying him earlier this week

[Gold Metal Flake]

19. Before you make up your mind, check this.

"In other words, it’s all a big con game. The still-neocon-dominated Pentagon—which this week stopped funding Chalabi’s INC —is playing its last card, hoping that it can boost Chalabi’s sagging fortunes by pretending to sever ties with him. That, the neocons hope, will allow Chalabi to strengthen his ties to Sistani, the king-making mullah who, they hope, holds Iraq’s fate in his wrinkled hands."




http://www.tompaine.com/print/neocon_lets_cat_out_of_bag.php