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Egalitarian Zetetic Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:18 PM
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Be careful on Yahoo message boards and others
Edited on Thu May-20-04 04:19 PM by Egalitarian Zetetic
Yahoo is the king of loggin ip# so i reccomend you use a proxy server when going to those sites, before the browshirts come around. All they have to do is give up the ip of the "doe"



http://eff.org/Privacy/Anonymity/

CyberSLAPP/ John Doe cases
2themart.com EFF handled this leading case with the ACLU of Washington State. In it, a federal district court in the Eastern District of Washington held that the identities of 23 participants in an Infospace chatroom were protected from disclosure. The case contained a strong endorsement of the right to anonymous speech online and set out a rigorous test for releasing the identities of John Does who were witnesses, rather than defendants. The test asks: :



Ampex v Cargle. EFF filed an amicus in support of a John Doe who was denied attorneys fees under the California SLAPP law. The case was handled by the Stanford cyberlaw clinic. The appeals court agreed with Stanford and EFF and reversed the lower court ruling.

E. Van Cullens v. John Doe. The lawsuit claims defamation. It was brought in Illinois but the subpoena issued from California based upon comments on a Yahoo message board. The attempt to get our client's name was dropped after we presented a motion to the court noting the lack of evidence and claiming a SLAPP under California’s anti-SLAPP statute.

Hritz v. Doe. The case was brought in Virginia (where AOL is located) against a Doe by a CEO of a company based in Indiana based on comments critical of it on a Yahoo message board. The case was dropped after we indicated there would be a defense to a charge of defamation and after the matter transferred to Indiana.

First Cash v. John Doe. The lawsuit claims breach of contract but also threatens defamation and business disparagement. The case was brought in Texas and the subpoena issued from Santa Clara County, California based upon comments on a Yahoo message board. Working with the California Anti-SLAPP project, EFF assisted in claiming that the California Anti-SLAPP statute should apply to have the California subpoena dismissed.

Kesler v. Doe. EFF has sumbitted briefs defending a John Doe defendant, a.k.a. "Mezzzman", from attempts to force ISP to reveal defendant's identity in a defamation case. EFF argues both First Amendment and anti-SLAPP positions.

Medinex v. Awe2bad4mdnx et al. 14 participants in a Yahoo chatroom were sued and their identies sought from Yahoo. Lawsuit was brought in Federal District Court for Idaho but subpoena issued from Northern District of California federal court. Claims were defamation, tortuous interference with business relationship and wrongful interference with prospective economic advantage. After EFF filed a motion to quash the subpoena, the case was dropped.

Naas v. Anonymizer. Ohio lawsuit against Anonymizer.com (a provider of anonymous Internet service) and several other parties (mostly John Doe defendants), in which a defamed plaintiff attempts to hold the service provider liable for third parties' defamatory statements.

Prepaid Legal v. Sturtz. EFF was granted a motion in Santa Clara County Superior Court to quash a subpoena seeking the identity of two posters on Yahoo!'s "Pre-Paid Legal" message board. Pre-Paid had argued that it needed the Does' identities to determine whether they are subject to a voluntary injunction preventing former sales associates who work for a competitor from revealing Pre-Paid's trade secrets. The messages cited by Pre-Paid, however, indicate only that the Does were critical of the company and how it treats its associates. EFF successfully argued that revealing the identity of these speakers would give Pre-Paid the opportunity to punish its critics for speaking out against it.

Rural Metro v. Doe. The case was brought in San Jose and was dropped after we indicated there would be a defense to a charge of defamation based upon comments in a Yahoo message board.

Southern Union v. SW Gas. EFF handled this case before the Northern District of California Federal Court. In it, a Defendant in a case issued a subpoena to Yahoo! Inc., seeking to have Yahoo reveal the identity and online correspondence of Doe, a third party whose only known connection to this case is that he participated in a public discussion concerning Defendant's business held on a Yahoo! message board. The apparent basis for this subpoena is Southwest's conjecture that someone posting to the message board may have been doing so in breach of a Standstill Agreement in place between Plaintiff and Defendant during merger discussions. Based upon this generalized suspicion, Plaintiff subpoenaed all thirty-eight participants in the public discussion group who posted during the existence of the Standstill Agreement. The subpoena was withdrawn after EFF filed its motion to quash before the court.


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Legislation
EFF is represented by the Samuleson Law, Technology and Public Policy Clinic at Boalt Hall School of Law for purposes of sponsoring legislation increasing the privacy protections for anonymous speakers online.

The legislation, called AB 1143, was introduced by Assemblymember Joe Simitian and is aimed at ensuring that individuals whose identities are sought from their ISPs in California state lawsuits for their activities online are given notice and an opportunity to protect their privacy before their identities are revealed.

California Bill (AB 1143). (California legislative information website)
Media coverage for California Bill
EFF's press releases:
California Law to Protect Whistleblowers, Others Online
Other press
TechTV Q&A with Deidre Mulligan of the Samuelson Clinic, and Cory Doctorow and Cindy Cohn from EFF (June 10, 2003)
Keeping the Mask on Internet Anonymity (May 15, 2003)
ZDNet: Calif. may add protection for posters
UC Berkeley News: Law students draft Internet privacy bill
San Jose Mercury News: Cyber-gag
Making It Harder for Prying Eyes
Wired News: Privacy Matters
Links
Cyberslapp.org. Website created jointly by Public Citizen, EFF, EPIC, ACLU, CDT and several private attorneys tracking John Doe lawsuits and legal decisions.
Chillingeffects.org. Project of EFF and several law school clinics tracking cease and desist notices and similar acts online. Includes a section about John Doe cases with a FAQ useful to recipients
Subpoenadefense.org. Project of EFF and USIIA giving information to ISPs and Internet speakers about subpoenas for identifying information issued under the DMCA provision 512(h).
John Does.org. Website focusing on John Doe cases.
Anonymizer.com


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:20 PM
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1. how do you use a proxy server?
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:42 PM
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2. ditto? n/t
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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:50 PM
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3. Anonymous web proxy
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 06:40 PM
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6. heres another
www.anonymizer.com
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Egalitarian Zetetic Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 06:34 PM
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4. you can use stealther
Stealther:
http://www.stealther.com/

or use a public proxy on the net.
http://www.publicproxyservers.com/index.html


If you go to tools>internet options>connections>lan settings>check the use proxy server and enter its port number and address

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 06:38 PM
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5. Don't be discouraged from talking politics wherever you go.
Just don't defame private parties. (And how in the world can you defame anonymous posters!?!?!).

Keep fighting the good fight on Yahoo and everywhere!
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