GOP Tells Gay Republicans 'You're Not Wanted'

[Not Me]

(Raleigh, North Carolina) Gay Republicans have been told they are not welcome at the party's state convention this weekend. The state's Log Cabin Republicans had requested a table to display its literature at the convention, but Ferrell Blount, the Chairman of the GOP in North Carolina rejected the group and in a letter to Log Cabin accused the LCR of disloyalty.

LCG "advocates special rights and privileges for homosexuals," wrote Blount. "It openly opposes President Bush’s call for a constitutional amendment to protect the sanctity of marriage as being the union between one man and one woman."

Blount pointed to the party platform that says "Republicans believe that a two-parent family, where a husband and wife live in harmony in one home, provides the ideal environment for raising children and is the best model for family life. We praise the courageous efforts of single parents who work hard to provide stable homes, and we recognize that single parents often succeed and two-parent families sometimes fail. We, therefore, oppose efforts to redefine the traditional family structure and offer the Republican Party as a refuge fore everyone concerned with about the breakdown of family life in America."

Ed Farthing, the chair of the North Carolina Log Cabin Republicans called Blount's position "discouraging".

"It appears to be you have to be a white, Anglo-Saxon married Protestant for the Party to pay any attention to you," Farthing told 365Gay.com.

http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/05/051904ncGOP.htm

[gratuitous]

1. Ring, ring! It's the clue phone!

Anyone named Edward Farthing around here? No? I'll take a message. "You forgot 'obscenely wealthy'." Okay, got it.

[Catfight]

19. ROFLMA! ring ring...Gay Repugs...oymoron.

[KissMyAsscroft]

2. Log Cabin Republican...

=Abused Wife Syndrome...

Just tell them you fell down the stairs guys.

[sundog]

yeah

these guys are definitely taking the masochist role a little too seriously-- maybe they get off on it (who knows what goes on in the mind of a repug) -- how could they possibly stick around after being treated like the ugly stepchild?! :shrug:

[progressivebydesign]

3. Do the Log Cabin Republicans get it YET???

Or do they have to have a fucking piano drop on their heads to get a clue that they are unwanted in the GOP???? Could their greedy natures be so strong as to let them associate with those that despise them? I mean.. how important in the lure of a tax cut, or do they simply hate themselves? WHy the fuck would you be a republican?? Makes no sense..

[ronnykmarshall]

7. Buzzzzz...................

"Sheila, please bring in the denial file."

These people could be shipped off to camps by the GOP and still say "Well, at least taxes won't go up".

[Misunderestimator]

14. Exactly!! Greed must be blinding them to the fact that

... they are worse off now than ever. Damn, how I hate to admit that some of us are THAT stupid.

[progressivebydesign]

40. Perhaps I am wrong in assuming they are one-issue voters..

I wonder if it's the same thinking, from we DUers, as thinking that Jewish people care only about Israel, and black voters would vote for Al Sharpton because he's black. Am I minimizing the gay population by assuming that these Log Cabin people aren't capable of being multi-dimensional voters?

[Misunderestimator]

47. I would certainly not say you were minimizing the gay population....

Actually, I'm sure you would find upwards of 80% (maybe more) of the gay population is Democrat. The Log Cabin people aren't any different than African Americans who vote republican. I'm not sure what you're getting at though. Are you saying that gays should be democrats because they care only about gay rights? It's a pretty darn fundamental American tenet, civil rights. I think it's a pretty good one-issue reason to not vote Republican. Now that they have it in their faces that they will be discriminated against by their own party, I'm sure many of them will vote against Bush.

In the case of the Log Cabiners, the one issue they had which justified their being republicans was a financial one. I couldn't be happier that they are finally waking up to their status as second-class citizens.

[AntiCoup2K4]

4. Geezus Ed, what was your first clue?

Log Cabin Republicans have always been about as logical a concept as the African Americans for the Ku Klux Klan.

[physioex]

6. It's not that simple...

It would be easier for them to leave, but it's harder to stay. Heck there might be even a few true conservatives remember less government, spending, and taxes. They don't want the party to be run by the radical Christian right. Or these phoney Neo-cons.

[RoyGBiv]

15. Only if...

That only makes sense if they have any influence whatsoever in how the party is run. They. Do. Not.

They are an interest group that through some strange magic able to pull the support of some homosexuals towards Republicans despite the party hierarchy openly and repeatedly telling them they are not wanted.

[sui generis]

21. still, they're delusional

Jews couldn't change the Nazi party from within (and yes, some of them tried), until they learned what the Nazi party was really about firsthand. LCR's aren't much different. They will never under any conceivable circumstance be able to effect the social change and acceptance they pursue by participating in the party that makes clear it's all right to discriminate against them.

If you want to do the job right, use the right tool. The GOP is not the right tool.

[salin]

45. er... the party ISN'T being run by those groups?

The takeover - except in a few enclaves in the northeast and California - seems to have already occured.

[RoyGBiv]

5. Log Cabin

The entire premise behind Log Cabin Republicans is a myth, so I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that they're able to rationalize away this sort of treatment they receive. But it does still floor me that they continue to support that party.

"Discouraging?" Pfffttt... It is a direct and obvious spit in the face.

[physioex]

9. Not true...read my post above. EOM

[Sandpiper]

16. If the GOP started making open calls for the death of homosexuals

The Log Cabin Republicans would still find a way to rationalize it.

[comsymp]

8. Yeah, this was pretty nasty-

The guy who got the fax from Blount, Christopher something was on a local NPR show yesterday discussing the counter-convention, and had just rec'd the fax. There's a post in State-NC about it.

Only thing particularly wrong w/the article is, there is no North Carolina Chapter of LCR- they're talking about organizing one- there is, however, a Charlotte chapter.

[SoFlaJet]

10. And yesterday I see Andrew Sullivan

on TV still a GOP shill having just written a book titled Gay Marriage the pros and cons the pros are in the democratic party and the cons well they should be cons are the republicans he shills for

[Wickerman]

11. This just in: Republicans believe picnics enjoyed best on sunny days

No shit - a family is the best model when you have a mommy and daddy raising 2.4 kids. And you're white, and so is your stay at home wife. And you make 125K a year and produce oil. Well, shit, not everything is so damned black and white.

Any GBLT who thinks the 'pukes will ever accept anything more than their checks is seriously out to lunch.

[Sandpiper]

12. Dear Ed

Not to put to fine a point on this, but the Republican Party hates homosexuals. And since you are a homosexual, that means that they hate you Ed. The GOP would like nothing more than to codify discrimination against you and all people like you into the laws and constitution of the United States. Ed, how much more clear could they be about their feelings towards you than by barring you from their convention? When you finally get tired of supporting and voting for a party that thinks you're the scum of the earth, look us up.

Regards,


The Democratic Party

[movonne]

13. I find them no different that the poor people (especially southerners)

who vote against their own best interests.

[physioex]

17. It's really a shame...

That the people on this thread see everything in black and white. We as libs should know better that things aren't as simple as they may appear.

[RoyGBiv]

28. Oh, I know it's not simple...

At least the question of the real LCR agenda is not simple. That's certainly a topic that could be explored quite deeply. But the notion that the LCRs are somehow going to influence the GOP to come around to their way of thinking on any level with regard to the issue of the civil rights of homosexuals being respected is naive.

As a liberal, I could renounce my affiliation with the Democratic party and join the Republicans in an attempt to influence the party from within. I could even vote for GOP candidates. It'd be insane for me to do so, however.

It is a question of the larger LCR agenda, and as others have said in this thread, that agenda seems geared toward valuing their own personal wealth over their own civil rights and, more importantly to my mind, those of the homosexual community at large.

[physioex]

35. I can agree with this.....

It is a question of the larger LCR agenda, and as others have said in this thread, that agenda seems geared toward valuing their own personal wealth over their own civil rights and, more importantly to my mind, those of the homosexual community at large.

[goclark]

18. Didn't the LCR know

that you have to be "a white Anglo-Saxon married(rich)Christian tfor the Party to pay any attention to you.

It also helps if you can't think for yourself and live to be led by someone rigid and rich .

[Mountainman]

20. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gay Repubs

Why?

[Egalitarian Zetetic]

22. i never understood them or the uncle tom's cabin republicans.<nt>

[candy331]

25. I suspect not a few republicans are

are white,married with two kids but behind closed doors have a different life. Perhaps they should get a better night life and out some of those bastards.

[Mountainman]

26. Maybe it's like the working poor support of the Repubs

They want to pass laws that protect the wealth of the wealthy because they think that if they adhere to the conservative philosophy they will be wealthy some day.

It doesn't often happen.

[tom_paine]

My God. A moment of honesty for the Busheviks.

So rare I feel like celebrating or something.

One does wonder just what the hell these delusional Log Cabin Busheviks were thinking, swearing fealty to people who would just as soon see them dead or imprisoned, many who would like to do the job themselves, a la Abu Ghrahib?!?

David Brock shed some light on this in his book "Blinded by the Right" but it still doesn't explain what Gay Busheviks are thinking NOW?

(after all, Brock joined the GOP because he was anti-Communist and anti-Soviet, but that is not a praticularly relevant reason given the current state of the Soviet Union)

[Cyrano]

23. Hey, Log Cabins. Don't feel bad.

Albinos with banjos aren't welcome either.

(See "Deliverance)

[AspenRose]

24. Well, DUH

Memo to black republicans: They don't want you, either.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. Knock-knock!! Anyone home in the Log Cabin???...

Could it not get any more clear than that??

The GOP does not WANT gays in their party, and if they win the 2004 election I'm betting that ALL minority GOPers will become expendable.

I'm not John Edwards on "Crossing Over", and I haven't slept at the Holiday Inn Express, but this has to be one of the loudest wake-up calls I've ever heard.

[MasonJar]

29. If they stay with the Pugs after that admonishment, then they are

part of the problem.

[Mountainman]

30. The Repubilcans have a plan and you aren't in it.

[Book Lover]

31. Ooh, there's a shock...

C'mon, guys (and have you noticed that the LCRs are overwhelmingly male?) bring your liberal social views and small-c conservative fiscal views where you belong - the Democratic Party.

[David__77]

32. My goal is a 90%+ LGBT Democratic vote.

This is important. We (those of us who are l, g, b or t) must not allow our community to fall for these fascists.

[AgadorSparticus]

33. my god, if they insist on getting beaten by the whip, then they shouldn't

complain about the sting. LCR fully deserve every word of that ridiculous, but consistent, letter.

And they declined the democratic invitation? TO HELL WITH THEM. go get your regular masochistic repuke beatings. ugh.

[ulysses]

34. what is "like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders", Alex. n/t

[salin]

46. The dad of one of the highest ranking

"diversity" members of the GOP who got screwed by the GOP (particularly Rummy) on a local BIG EMPLOYER (Predator) that appears to have been put in and out of the budget just to play with the value of the company (Carlyle bought it low... pentagon wants it in the budget.... Value goes way up... Carlyle sells... rummy axes the program). That last straw... and the son of the speaker of the quote says... "I'm outa here!" left congress, and for the most part public life as GOP symbol of faux diversity.

[MidwestTransplant]

36. Republican Party as a refuge fore everyone concerned

I hope those asses don't see their spelling mistake until after they print their material.

[killbotfactory]

37. Maybe they should rename the republican party to the 'no homo's club'

I hear they are deeply concerned about catching "cooties" from gays.

[Blue-Jay]

38. Man, I just don't *get* those LCR people...

Sure, I can understand people who have classical conservative leanings where it involves financial matters. I don't agree, but I can wrap my mind around it. I've heard LCRs justify themselves by saying such things as "It's OK to agree on one issue, and remain in the party". ONE ISSUE?!?

Listen, if the majority of Dems were in favor of denying ME my basic human rights because I have brown hair, I'd tell 'em to go fuck themselves.

How many times to these twits need to be slapped in the face before they finally say "Hey man. That's fucked up."?

argh.

[terrya]

39. The NC GOP's positiion is DISCOURAGING???!!!????

Sweet Jesus, what the FUCK do these LCR people need? A fucking anvil to drop on their heads?????

I'm convinced the LCR people are just the stupidest people on the planet. I'm sorry to say this about my fellow gay and lesbian folks, but Lord Almighty, go to the bank, take out a loan and BUY A FUCKING CLUE, already! You're NOT WANTED in the Republican party.

[Blue-Jay]

41. Unfortunately, Terry, people of all stripes are

capable of incredible stupidity. You'd think that they would at least (if they're so damn "conservative") migrate to the Libertarian Party.

[Neshanic]

42. So Ed, that means you guys stop hanging around the kitchen for scraps.

[doni_georgia]

43. This is bigger than just the LCR group - ANY republican who disagrees

with Bush on anything is not welcomed! There will be no dissent. Anyone who dares speak out against the policies of the regime must be eliminated from the party.

[lanparty]

44. Visible sign of generalized psychosis ...

The Log Cabin Republicans are the tip of a HUGE ice berg. The berg is composed of people who vote against their own interest under the illusion and deceipt that they are part of a "chosen few".

That's what the Republican message is. You're special. You're exceptional. You are those among the chosen. You're time will come soon, just vote with us.

Those other people, they're sub-standard. They've chosen to fail. They're lazy. They're mentally deficient. You are better than THEM. None of your success was achieved by hereditary entitlement. None of your wealth was made via access to inside sources. If you were born poor to a crack mother, you would still be where you are today. All those people could be millionaires if they just did the right thing.


This is the psychosis that the Log Cabin Republicans suffer from. They know that Republicans HATE THEM ... but they still believe the BS that shoveled into everyone else's ears.

The SAME thing goes for black Republicans. Often they're even worse. The black leaders in the Republican party are 100% there because of affirmative action. The reason being is that if half of Republicans had their way, Colin Powell would have started and ended his career in the mess hall instead of raising to Joint Chiefs chairman.

Clarence Thomas is the ABSOLUTE WORSE. He's not even competent like Colin Powell is. Thomas was chosen for his willingness to self delude himself and believe that he is brilliant. He believes he got where he is through hard work and profound capability. He's there because he'll do what the master tells him and is happy to whip his fellow black man.

[bigbillhaywood]

48. So they're social liberals and economic conservatives. Why don't

they just join the Libertarian Party then?

[loudsue]

49. I ASKED a gay N.C. republican member of the LCR....WHY in the hell

are YOU a republican?

I visited a friend of mine in Charlotte, NC, and she was buddies with this guy who was her neighbor & watched her dog, etc., when she was out of town. He joined us for lunch one day, and during the conversation, he seemed pretty darned liberal to me!

I asked him point blank "why in the hell are you a republican?"

He looked at me like I should know better, and said "how else are we going to change the party if we aren't ACTIVE MEMBERS?"

Not my logic.....his.

:kick:

[Bread and Circus]

50. I was gonna say something rude....but hopefully this will

help the LCR see the light.

Today's GOP is fascist.