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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:08 PM
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Gay Marriage Ban all but DEAD!!
Backers of Gay Marriage Ban Find Tepid Response in Pews
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

ust four months after an alliance of conservative Christians was threatening a churchgoer revolt unless President Bush championed an amendment banning same-sex marriage, members say they have been surprised and disappointed by what they call a tepid response from the pews.

Most of the groups supporting the proposed federal constitutional amendment concede that it appears all but dead in Congress for this election year.

As Massachusetts prepares to become the first state in the nation to allow same-sex marriage on Monday, several high-profile conservatives say they are now pinning their hopes mainly on reaction to events there, betting that scenes of gay weddings in Provincetown may set off a public outcry.

In a last effort to publicize their cause before the impending wave of same-sex marriages, conservative Christian groups are organizing an emergency telecast to churches around the country, bringing African-American clergy members to Washington to lobby the Congressional Black Caucus, and sending members of a group for people who say they are formerly gay to make the rounds of Capitol Hill as well.

Still, the opponents of gay marriage say they are puzzling over why such a volatile cultural issue is not spurring more rank-and-file conservative Christians to rise up in support of the amendment. They are especially frustrated, they say, because opinion polls show that a large majority of voters oppose gay marriage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/16/national/16MARR.html?...

LARGE MAJORITY?? Bullshit, is 55% a large majority?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:14 PM
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1. Fundies will write and call, but now they are being asked to march
That would mean giving up more than a couple of minutes of their time. Too big an effort I see.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:15 PM
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2. A year from now,
when people realize that the world hasn't stopped because gays are married, this will be a non-issue.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:10 PM
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10. It has always been a non-issue (vis-a-vis it actually passing)
It is a wedge issue still being used in the South Carolina senate race. It's fundy-against-fundy down there and it ain't purdy! The BoJos call the political shots (BoJo = Bob Jones University).
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:16 PM
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11. It was designed to activate the Party faithful for *. eom
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:16 PM
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3. This is good news
Dare we hope for a glimmer of rationality amongst the public? Wouldn't that be great.
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:24 PM
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4. I've never believed...
that a nationwide gay-marriage ban, especially a constitutional amendment, would have much chance of passing at all, and absolutely not this year for sure. And what's more, I seriously doubt that Bush himself actually thought so either.

I won't speculate on whether Bush genuinely would like to see a gay-marriage ban on principle, but I think his actions are political gestures to his fundie base more than anything else.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:34 PM
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5. hip hip hooray
I am dying for all these fundies to see that their life- or- death issues are nothing but hot air and scare tactics and I look forward to the day gay people can be out and not worry about the rest of us. Now if they would only be as reasonable about foreign countries running their own business.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:37 PM
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6. Sandy Rios, "Concerned" Women for America is up here
Pushing her face on every TV screen she can find wailing how this is the end of life as we know it. No one seems to pay much attention to her though.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:50 PM
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7. This reminds me of the outrage at
interracial marriage.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:04 PM
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8. Is it too soon for schadenfreude?
And don't forget to wake me when it's time to dance on some graves.

Matt Daniels: Ha ha ha.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:09 PM
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9. It's snowing in hell
true Christians know what Jesus would have done
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