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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:53 PM
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read this & tell me bushco isn't a bunch of frikkin nazis
Edited on Sat May-15-04 12:54 PM by mopaul
http://www.counterpunch.org /
It was not far into the war in Afghanistan that Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld made plain his views of the treatment of prisoners, after horrifying accounts began to surface of the treatment of Taliban POWs.

Recall that after the surrender of the Kunduz fortress in November 2001 hundreds of Taliban were taken prisoner along with an American called John Walker Lindh. Rumsfeld had originally stated that the US was "not inclined to negotiate surrenders". He then amended this to say that the Taliban should be let out of the net but that foreign fighters should expect no mercy: "My hope is they will either be killed or taken prisoner."

It turned out they endured both Rumsfeld's options. A year later Jamie Doran, a British television producer, aired his documentary establishing beyond reasonable doubt that hundreds of these prisoners - with no distinction between Taliban or "foreign fighters"- died either by suffocation in the container trucks used to transport them towards the Shebarghan prison, or by outright execution near Shebarghan.

On the basis of interviews with eyewitnesses, Doran said U.S. soldiers were present when the containers were opened. "When the containers were finally opened, a mess of urine, blood, faeces, vomit and rotting flesh was all that remained ... As the containers were lined up outside the prison, a soldier accompanying the convoy was present when the prison commanders received orders to dispose of the evidence quickly. Newsweek's investigation into the Afghan atrocities ("The Death Convoy of Afghanistan," 26 August 2002) stated that "American forces were working intimately with 'allies' who committed what could well qualify as war crimes."

Witnesses also stated "600 Taliban PoWs who survived the containers' shipment to the Shebarghan prison ... were taken to a spot in the desert and executed in the presence of about 30 to 40 U.S. special forces soldiers" (The Globe and Mail, 19 December 2002). Other U.S. soldiers are said to have involved themselves directly and enthusiastically in the "dirty work" of prisoner torture and the disposal of corpses. "The Americans did whatever they wanted," stated one Afghan witness. "We had no power to stop them. Everything was under the control of the American
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:57 PM
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1. Once again, you score, mopaul!
n/t

read it and weep.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:59 PM
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2. If there's something to reincarnation,
I'd say ShrubCo probably were all from The Vaterland in the last life.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:06 PM
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3. Your toilet is brilliant!
:yourock:

This was obviously their policy. They are disgusting. And the enthusiasm was coming down through the ranks from the highest levels. :puke:



http://www.wgoeshome.com
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:32 PM
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7. "Your toilet is brillant"
Yeah, but at I first I thought "What a waste of 5 gallons of water." But seeing the end result caused be to rethink that it was for a good cause!
:)
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:12 PM
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4. How utterly vile!
nt
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Left_Wing_Fox Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:26 PM
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5. Systemic naziism
For anyone needing a visual aid on this, the Canada's CBC news had a report on this: Quicktime movie, 15 minutes.

http://www.chocolatesalty.com/AfghanPOWsKilled.mov

Thanks to Bartcop.com for this one.

Also, add the fact that Bush pulled the US out of the International Criminal Courts agreements, preventing US soldiers from being "legally" tried for war crimes by the international community, the declaration that detainees are "enemy combatants" and are not subject to the Geneva convention (and prevented International Red Cross/Red Crescent observers to ensure humane conditions), and the record of judicial misconduct, jailhouse abuse, and 152 executions under Bush when he was Governor of Texas...

Even if Bush didn't directly order the abuse, even if he was "disgusted" by the photos, White House policy DIRECTLY laid the groundwork for this abuse, and did nothing to fix it when these reports started arriving a year ago, and the major shit hit the fan months ago.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:31 PM
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6. I tried to watch the movie on Amy Goodman's program. My stomach
was not strong enough. But there is documentation about US atrocities all around the globle..OOOPS! except in the USA. She said that this was the US premiere of the movie which has not gotten any media outlet interested in showing it in the States.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:44 PM
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8. The rest of the world must now gather the intestinal fortitude to say..
Edited on Sat May-15-04 01:45 PM by Gman
"War Crimes" and "Crimes Against Humanity"

I really think the rest of the world is stunned and can't yet bring itself to think of America with the terms "war crimes" and "crimes against humanity". Its a matter of time before they do.
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