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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:49 AM
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CIA/PentagonPsyops: Nick Berg Killed by Americans
Killed by Americans
by MARC PERKEL

(Note: Chair reveals CIA/ Pentagon psyops, killing Nick Berg in prison then making phony video of his supposed beheading.)

It's the same chair. Look at this pic that was released today of the latest prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison. Notice the white chair in the lower left corner. Now - look at the chair Nicholas Berg is sitting in!! It's the same fucking chair!!

I have some more pics but the walls are the same yellow color and the baseboard is the same color as Abu Ghraib prison. Then - as I've said before - what is Nicholas Berg doing in an orange prison jumpsuit? The orange jumpsuit is the same color as the ones used at the prison!!! Terrorists don't don't put the people they kidnap in orange prison jumpsuits!

http://conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=94&co...
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:54 AM
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1. White chair?
Those chairs are a dime a dozen.

I'm not dismissing the theory that Americans killed Berg. I haven't read enough about it yet to form an opinion. But a white plastic patio chair is hardly proof of anything.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:58 AM
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3. Bertha
its the DNA from the plastic dammit they have the plastics DNA!!!!

sorry kidding
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:02 AM
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5. Time to watch something on TV besides "Law & Order" and "CSI," mharris?
;)

You made me laugh. :7
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:03 AM
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7. hahahahahaha
Bertha, its the DNA that gets us every time. Damn that DNA
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:28 AM
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20. Take the time to read the link before you dismiss this out of hand.
There are a lot of things wrong with the official story and every clue should be considered.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:19 AM
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16. Those chairs are a dime a dozen here. Read the link and the next one that
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:57 AM
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2. Is this a legitimate news source?
I don't think so. This should go in GD or in Editorials.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:30 AM
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21. This IS General Discussion
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:00 AM
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4. So, I'd like to know
What is Marc Perkel's DU handle? This is STRAIGHT from our threads, even mention of the baseboard.

Stirring the pot.... :evilgrin:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:14 AM
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12. Marc Perkel used to post on DU
I don't know what happened.

Now he is Bartcop's webmaster.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:37 AM
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24. What threads? I missed them. Please inform.
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:05 PM
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32. Here's the big one, but there were many that happened Thursday night
Video anomalies and DU researchers with a BIG thank you to all of the amazing DU sleuths who type (and think) a lot faster than I can.

Ma
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:03 AM
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6. Re: Jumpsuit. Here's another Agent Orange:
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:06 AM
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8. my eyes! my eyes!
I'm hardly a fashion plate myself, but Jesus! At least I know enough not to wear colors that make me look like a freak.

I don't like ragging on first ladies. I feel guilty for this comment. And for this one: :puke: that orange shirt on her. Blech.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:08 AM
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10. Great DU color-co ordination! Even the vomit on the emotion
icons is a perfect color match!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:40 AM
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25. Good one! But I think that she is treated better than most prisoners.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:06 AM
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9. Has the "In the Wilderness" Guy chimed in on this yet
I'd love to see him run with this.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:23 AM
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18. No, Ruppert hasn't commented yet. n/t
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:11 AM
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29. it's: From The Wilderness.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:13 AM
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11. I find the chair the least convincing sign of fraud
After all, it's a McChair, a cheap resin job produced in China and shipped all over the world to be sold for peanuts in every home store and street bazaar there is.

More compelling evidence is the gold ring the executioner's wearing, the lack of blood spray evidence, the fact that the executioner's uncommonly spry for an amputee (even one with the state of the art in prosthesis), the odd story behind Berg's presence in Iraq (his company doesn't exist on paper in either Pa or Delaware), and the amazingly fortuitous timing of the whole thing.

I don't know enough to assign this thing to any group over another. I do know the whole story stinks to high heaven.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:23 AM
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19. And the perps are all dressed
in Hollywood terrorist suits and the guy killed screamed long after his vocal cords were cut off from their source of air. The last is a typical movie/TV sound insert - like in the old Starsky and Hutch show, camera focuses tight on spinning tire with accompanying squeel even on dirt, or the sickening kissy sounds when people are kissing on camera. Done for dramatic effect. This film is highly suspect.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:36 AM
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23. more likely theyre just lousy filmmakers/
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:34 AM
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22. gold ring
FYI, gold rings ar worn around the world and one of the largest (and most affordable) gold markets in the area.
Worries about white chairs, gold rings, orange jumpsuits, chubby arabs, etc, reveal more about the ignorance in the US about the rest of the world than it does any "conspiracy."


Personally, I think the guy was a wannabe James bond who thought he could make contacts with Al Quida but they saw an American Jew with communications equipment wandering around and thought "spy."
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:46 AM
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26. Let's not dismiss any of the clues just yet.
I agree that the gold ring if fishy and i think that the other things mentioned in the link are important too. Read the link and get see what you think.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:14 AM
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30. I agree. It does stink to high heavens. Too many errors.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:16 AM
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13. Ahh...so "The Frightening Fraud" theories are out to discredit..
"The Forbidden Truth" investigations....

Interesting.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:16 AM
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14. Obviously ...
A website named 'ConspiracyPlanet.com' has what I believe to be an unhealthy focus on conspiracy ....

Hell: I have one of those chairs .. perhaps I killed Berg ...

Nah ... I cant even butcher a dead chicken ... I would rather ROAST the damned thing ....
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:18 AM
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15. Gotta admit
it's a pretty weak case-hell we have 2 of those chairs here and Berg certainly wasn't beheaded here.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:07 AM
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27. You have those same type of chairs? And?
You are an American, living in America. Big deal.
The question is "How many Iraqi's have chairs like those?" How many of those chairs are floating around the Middle East that did not come from American sources, i.e., Halliburton, the military...
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:33 AM
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31. Well that is the question isn't it
Did the Americans bring that chair or did it already exist at Abu Ghraib under Saddam? If it was already there it would seem to indicate that these chairs could be in abundance in Iraq.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:22 AM
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17. insane
Marc Perkel is clearly a nut job. And you BELIEVE HIM?
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:08 AM
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28. Ya gotta fight fire with fire
Drudge, Fox, MSNBC, Wall Street Journal Editorial Page, Washington Times, New York Times and Washington Post reporting et al, will print or slant anything critical of the Democrats, the Democrats don't have a corresponding sounding board for wacko theories.

So lighten up willya!

Didn't Wison get elected in 1916 by promising to NOT get involved in WWI, while at the same was actively engaged in doing just that.

I'm no Woodrow fan, and don't get me started on the 14 points. His stubborness led to the financial disaster in Europe, which in turn led to the rise of the National Socialist Party in Germany.
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:12 PM
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33. No, HE believes US!
I proudly include myself in the DU :tinfoilhat: brigade. Not saying you are one of that particular US, WoodrowFan.

Ma
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