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zls44 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:03 AM
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Franken Blows Away Coulter in CT
Yup. This was a certifiable butt-kicking. Note the Repub posters in the forum on the right side talking about how bad she looked.

Moderator: If you could go back in history and be any figure, who would you be and why?

Coulter: FDR so I could stop the New Deal.

*jeers*

Franken: (sarcastically) Hitler.

*audience roars with laughter*

Franken: So I could go back and stop the Holocaust.

http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/hc-franken.artmay15,1,6...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:12 AM
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1. The Franken and Coulter Road Show.. They're a HIT!
SNL
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:21 AM
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2. I checked out the message board and even republicans were
repulsed by her remarks.

I wish it was broadcast, I would have loved to see that debate.
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fameless Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:25 AM
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3. It wasn't even close to being a debate.
Not close at all. She looked dumb and ignorant, while Franken had all the information. Franken slayed her. She had nothing to say to any of the questions asked. When she did have something to say, Franken had some very sharp remarks ready.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:46 AM
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6. I take it you were lucky enough to attend the smackdown on Coulter?
I am sooooo jealous.

Her column runs in our local paper and her last column she used words such as "professional whores" and "ignorant retards". That is NOT journalism. I am embarrassed that my paper presents it as such.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:19 AM
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20. She actually still has a column that is published somewhere? ???
Who syndicates her? :wtf:
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fameless Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:28 PM
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23. Yes, I was there
Bought my tickets this winter, it was a great time. She was completely destroyed by Franken.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:52 PM
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34. And you've told them so, right?
LTTE can make a difference....
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:34 AM
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13. Franken's comedic roots and knack for ad-lib make him so very
quick on his feet. And, even when he says something very direct it always seems softened by his natural humor. Coulter emotes purely from hatred and her natural negativity and has no tools at her disposal except Repug talking points or hateful hyperbole (which quickly gets her in trouble with any audience that isn't so ill-informed as she). No way can Coulter ever truly stand up against Franken in any forum where we don't have Faux-bots constantly intervening to her aid.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:17 AM
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19. Also, he's a smart mofo. EOM
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:28 AM
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4. How does Ann Coulter get the national recognition she has?
She spews out literally anything with no basis to back it up. She has been a proven liar on her columns, books and other crap she has put out. Yet, she has books published on her bullshit, she's on the speakers' circuit and a commentator on a number of media.

She's an anaconda dressed like a skinny bitch.

BTW, a caller on Franken's show on Air America read a quote from Abe Lincoln, the founder of the Republican party, which flies in the face of all of Coulter's rhetoric, if she really believes she's Republican. Did Franken use it in his "debate?"
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fameless Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:34 AM
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5. No, he didn't quote Abe.
But I was wondering if you remembered the quote? I'd like to know it.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:54 AM
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Lincoln Quote on Labor
Edited on Sat May-15-04 09:56 AM by gmoney
The Lincoln quote was: "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."

You can read more here: http://archive.8m.net/lincoln.htm
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:17 PM
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26. Thanks gmoney
for the quote & the link!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:01 PM
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38. Thus, my DU name.
can be phrased with many variations, also.

V 1. All humble little people are in a higher class than a predator ceo or politician or general or banker.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:49 PM
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39. Coulter says she's 23? Give me a freaking break! Maybe her IQ!?
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:11 AM
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42. You can't get that mean in just 23 yearsI
f she said that, it's another lie. www.imdb.com lists her birthday as December 8, 1961, which would make her 43.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:54 AM
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8. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
A real cog in the VRWC (and Hillary was right to correct herself it isn't a conspiracy it is right out in the open).

All of her books stay on the NYT bestseller list due to bulkbuys leading to the impression that many people are buying them -look for the * dagger you won't see any next to the Clinton, Franken, Moore, or Ivins books.

The "Four sisters" are the main funders-Richard Melon Scaife thru his trust funds, the Coors family, and.......uh there is a couple whose name escapes me and another one (sorry for the incomplete info).

Oh and Rev.Moon (Washington Times, American Spectator, backrolling Falwell's Liberty University) is in there too. The American Spectator pubished the "Real Anita Hill" that David Brock stated was all lies and he knew it when he wrote it ("Blinded by the Right") as well as creating credibility/experience for Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:23 PM
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32. hey Hey HEY!!!!
I happen to like Anaconda's, and I take umbrage at your remarks! :P
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:56 PM
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40. Coulter is an embarassment to the right.
They just don't know it.
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otakuboy T Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:53 AM
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7. I wish thre was a tape....
....or something that I could download.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:15 AM
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18. Me too also.

:shrug:
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otakuboy T Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:27 PM
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31. Try Emule
there is something called franken vs coulter
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:56 AM
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9. The scary part were the assholes clapping for stupidity.
Some more comments on another thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

She is not very impressive, and Al was hitting everything out of the park.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:11 AM
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10. CT NOW Is a "Membership" Web Site... Requires Personal Information
and a valid email address to view.

More trouble than it's worth, unfortunately. I was interested in seeing the article, though. Sigh.

-- Allen
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:22 AM
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11. Yeah, me too.
Got enough trouble with spyware as it is.
I bet a transcript will surface somewhere in a day or so.
Maybe on the Air America website.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:37 AM
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15. Yeah.. I'd forgotten I'd registered in the past when they didn't ask
for so much detailed personal information, so fortunately I could get in.... But, when I initially tried to register (again), I was appalled at how much they were asking/requiring! They should be able to ask for zipcode, perhaps if you subscribe, member gender and age range and that is it!!!!
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:02 AM
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16. Don't worry about the article
Not very informative and poorly written - I expected better. Didn't really give me a sense of what went on in the debate.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:23 AM
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12. I'd be willing to bet Franken has it recorded and will play it on his show
..now if only some kind DU'er would record it for those who can't listen.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:37 AM
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14. Even the Freeps admit she was bad
but they blame it on bias, claiming Franken got more face shots, hostile crowd, Al kept interrupting her, etc.

But some have to admit that Franken is likeable:

To: MJY1288
I disagree with him politically, but I had to thank him for doing the USO thing. One thing that makes the troops hearts rise is people coming over to see them in other-side-of-the world places.

Franklen did just that, and he did it by choice, not duty.

I end up hating these people less when I meet them personnaly, I guess, i see a human being and not just a face or arguement that I wish I was there to take apart.

Al is to be thanked for what he did going to the troops, but he was not the smarter one at the debate. The favoritism of the camera crew, the keeping of Annie's microphone volume lower, the placing of the microphone in front of her face if she pulled it in to speak louder and how it blocked her face on the tv screen behind her....
21 posted on 05/14/2004 10:18:11 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1135991/posts

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:05 AM
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17. LOL!
:cry:
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cushla_machree Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:32 AM
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43. but some of the rest of them
sure were great!

"What I can't understand is why Ann Coulter, or any brilliant conservative like herself, would waste their time debating a mental midget like Al Franken?

Al Franken is nothing but a liberal Shock Jock that has nothing factual to back up his ridiculous accusations or his positions on the issues. He's just a bomb throwing leftist maggot who can't even call himself a washed up Hollywood Liberal, because was good enough to be considered washed up. The guy is a total loser and should be ignored, just like he is on Air America"

freepers make me laugh
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tableturner Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:05 PM
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21. To log in, go to http://bugmenot.com/
Then in the box, paste in

http://www.ctnow.com /

You will get the following login information:

wilson4601
w00fer

You can use that site to get login info for almost all sites that require free registration.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:21 PM
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22. how has the New Deal hurt Ann Coulter?
just wondering .....

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Left_Wing_Fox Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:16 PM
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25. The New Deal is the Conservative Boogeyman
The "New Deal" is the big socialist boogyman used to explain why people's taxes are so high, why the evil unions are making goods so expensive, and why there are so many useless mouths sucking from the public teat of her hard earned tax dollars... :sob:

I guess they don't realize (or don't want us to know) that these "evil socialist programs" to eliminate wealth as the barrier to success is the only thing that prevents the class system of feudalist times, and makes the difference between Cincinnati and Calcutta.

It's not just her. That's why there was the campaign to replace FDR with Reagan on the dime. The New Deal went against the entire "hard work and self determination are the only things that matter in success" that makes up the classical conservative mindset.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 02:33 PM
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27. she should thank liberals that she's not barefoot and pregnant
and stirring gruel over a hot stove.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. She wants to be
But who's willing to inseminate her? Not It.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:14 PM
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29. No, she envies Lyndie England.
She would LOVE to be in charge of a prison full of muslims.

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:11 PM
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35. Ann Coulter is Lyndie England
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:50 PM
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36. Great post, Left_Wing_Fox! Welcome to DU!
The funny thing, as you point out, is that people like Ann never stop to think what would have happened if FDR had NOT been able to shove the New Deal programs through over fanatical opposition from Conservatives, who had long since been forced to admit that they didn't have any ideas and didn't know how to fix what was wrong, but they were damn sure that giving public monies to millions of people who were starving because there were no jobs was a crime against humanity and most likely blasphemous as well.

In short, the electoral map would still be showing a whole lot of RED -- but it would have more of a Leningrad hue. Conservatives at the time were terrified of it. But the conservative mindset is fundamentally rigid, and therefore even their nightmares of red banners rising throughout the heartland weren't strong enough to break down their inherent worship of the sanctity of personal profit.
To such a person, the possibility of losing a dollar today is more horrifying than the probability of losing everything tomorrow.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:06 PM
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24. This proves how far racists and bigots will go to be sure to hurt someone
She hates the New Deal because it helped so many people. These kind of people will cut off their own noses to bleed on their silk whit shirt if it means that they will have a chance to deny good to people they feel are undeserving.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:39 PM
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30. The stories really don't give much information.
Is there a transcript anywhere?
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:30 PM
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33. Wanted to go. Missed it.
:(
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:05 AM
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41. Will this air on CSPAN?
Or anything? I'd like to find a copy. Someone let me know if they know how to get a hold of this.

Thanks,
Rp
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