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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:02 AM
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Poll question: Berg - What's The Most Likely Theory
Let's see where DU stands now that we've had a while to debate the issue and see the film. Theoretically speaking and whether or not you think the decpitation was done after he was already dead: Who most likely ordered/coordinated/paid for Berg's killing?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:05 AM
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1. Who the hell knows?
Right now, with everybody involved in the case lying (except for Mr. Berg's family), it's impossible to tell.

There are probably a large number of Occupation and Iraqi "Keystone Kops" that are involved. But keep in mind who The Boss is.

--bkl
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:07 AM
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2. Choice #11
A bunch of random thugs did it because they want people to know they're bad. They couldn't capture a U.S. soldier, mind you, so they snatched this poor sucker off the street. They liked Berg too much to do what they had originally planned, so they killed him first and had someone dub the screams of the man they had already killed. The man who cut his head off hasn't slept well lately.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:07 AM
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3. I don't have enough information yet...

so this is too hard to choose right now. Keep the the reports and
stories comming though.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:08 AM
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4. What about Berg was a willing participant? n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:12 AM
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5. Now that's as far out as any theory I've heard
And it's not impossible either.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:13 AM
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6. We'll find out for sure
All the dirt comes out in the wash. I think one of the murderers will squeal. And from looking at that video, I think Berg was already dead.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 01:24 AM
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7. He was working for the Mossad
That's my personal opnion anyway.
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lyrical di Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:11 PM
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8. unknown terrorist springin up all over
Isn't that what is happening? Abuses and outrages by Americans occur and numerous groups flare up. They become outraged and do something in response. Why don't Americans react to outrage the same way? Is it because we are more "civilized"? No, I think indifferent.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:16 PM
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9. I wish you had listed:
Berg died in interrogation, the video was done to cover that up plus give bush an issue to try and divert the public from the Iraqi torture horror. That's about the only one I could vote for, at this point, anyway.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 06:59 AM
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13. This is pretty much where I am since the Moussaui link.
He wasn't killed for psyops; that's just the benefit of his death. And the desperate lie that he wasn't in custody suggests to me that this wasn't terribly well thought out.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:17 PM
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10. Delivered to the hands of "Murder Incorporated" ????.
Imagine that during the FBI interviews, things either got a little rough or it is clear that he knows things that the neo-cons don't want known. So they let him out alive, but they can't let the kid back home alive lest he tell his anti-war dad and the media believe him in the midst of the prisoner abuse scandal. So they tail him....

In this Sy Hersh interview by Diane Rehm, Sy hints of Rumsfeld's contacting Murder Incorporated - about 29 minutes in...
http://www.wamu.org/ram/2004/r1040504.ram

Also check Hersh's latest...

The people assigned to the program worked by the book, the former intelligence official told me. They created code words, and recruited, after careful screening, highly trained commandos and operatives from Americas lite forcesNavy seals, the Armys Delta Force, and the C.I.A.s paramilitary experts. They also asked some basic questions: Do the people working the problem have to use aliases? Yes. Do we need dead drops for the mail? Yes. No traceability and no budget. And some special-access programs are never fully briefed to Congress.


http://newyorker.com/fact/content/?040524fa_fact



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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 06:48 AM
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12. Kick
:kick:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:22 PM
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11. Here's my theory:
I don't have a theory. What happened? All I know is that at some point in time, whether on the video or at another time, a US citizen was somehow decapitated.

Was it the US, trying to punish an anit-war citizen? Maybe, who can say.

Was it a group of muslim extremists looking to push an agenda? That doesn't seem unlikely, to say the least.

Was it a bunch of small-time thugs who found an American and decided to show how tough they were? Possibly.

I don't know at all, because I really just don't think there will ever be enough information to be clear on what happened with this.

I know any investigation led by Bush and the US will be a complete sham that is more focused on covering up anything damaging than finding the facts. And I honestly don't trust any of the major parties involved at all.
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