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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 07:58 PM
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CBS-EN: TO PA * Supporter, Catholics Aren't Xtians
Edited on Tue May-11-04 08:00 PM by stopbush
...in so many words.

Did anyone else see that red-haired POS from Allentown, PA, on Dan Rather's show tonight? Her husband is in Iraq. Her support for the war is eroding. She "just hopes someone says it's over and they come home." Who will she vote for? "Bush." Why? "'Cause, basically, he's a Xtian."

Wait a minute. Isn't John Kerry a "practicing Catholic?" Last I looked, Catholicism was one of - if not THE - biggest Xtian sect in the world. If she'll vote for * "because he's a Xtian," then she should be able to vote for JK "because he's (also) a Xtian." Isn't the playing field sort of leveled on this account? Net sum, zero, corrrect?

Is it possible that fundy Xtians don't believe Catholics are Xtians? Anyone?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:00 PM
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1. In my experience, they don't
I had fundamentalist relatives who gave me anti-Catholic tracts when Kennedy ran for President. I wouldn't be surprised if they still hold the view that Catholics are 'idol worshippers'.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:04 PM
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2. Heavens, Stopbush, where have you been?
I remember 40 years ago in grade school being told by Christians of other sects that I, a Catholic, was going straight to hell. Things haven't changed much. The fundies hate Catholics generally, and only use them on occasion -- specifically, when they can get Catholics to back them in their anti-abortion activities.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:05 PM
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3. I really find the christian arguement silly
The fundies are acting like * was the first christian president, last time I checked, they all were!
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:10 PM
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4. Its called a Schism
There are many protestant sects that do not consider the Catholic church to be valid. In fact some even consider the pope to be the antichrist. There are wars fought to this day between Catholic and Protestant. Keep in mind, each sect of Christianity considers itself to be the true one. All others are wrong in some manner. Some are more wrong.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:11 PM
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5. Catholics are not Christians according
to many fundie Protestants.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:12 PM
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6. Pat Robertson: 'We all have the right to worship in this country..."
"...Christians, Catholics, and Jews."

On the 666 Club, years ago. Also: "They worship Mary." :puke:

Meanwhile, when the Christian Coalition realized it wasn't swaying any elections in the Northeast or Great Lakes, it launched a mercifully short-lived sister group, the Catholic Alliance.

So no, at least hard-core fundies don't think Catholics are Christians.

Then again, Jehovah's Witnesses use the term "Christian" synonymously with "Jehovah's Witness"; all others who profess Christianity are "apostate".
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:12 PM
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7. That whole story was GARBAGE.

Your "Librul" media at work. :puke:
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:18 PM
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8. Many Christian Fundamentalists despise Catholicism
they call it a "cult" and say they are not true Christians, they will not be saved, and they will go to hell.

They have a long list of reasons, but basically they disagree with the whole Pope thing. The Bible says thou shalt not worship false Gods and they think the way Catholics have the Pope is against the Bible. They also don't like how Catholics pray to statues (Jesus, Mary, etc) also as false gods. And they don't like the attention Catholics give to Mary. They're all Jesus, all the time.

All the freaks at Bob Jones University are anti-Catholic.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:20 PM
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9. Fundies loathe Catholics (papists) Bob Jones is virulently antiCatholic.
Edited on Tue May-11-04 08:21 PM by blm
The Ku Klux Klan was STARTED against Catholics before it turned its focus on blacks and jews.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:33 PM
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14. Amen. The vitriole I've heard leveled at the Holy Father is disgusting.
I'm a Catholic and will never refer to myself as a Christian because it makes me think of the fundies.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:34 PM
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15. That's a fact many people are unaware of.
My mother went to Catholic boarding school in St.Joseph, Mo. and often told me of the terror of being awakened by the commotion of the Klansmen burning a cross on the lawn. She would have been about 15 at the time.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:21 PM
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10. What always cracks me up is..
all these knuckle draggers say that Catholics aren't xian, but, when it comes to census data, they sure as hell include them as xians so they can show what a huge majority they are... fucking lunatics, each and every one.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:25 PM
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11. if you get a chance, look at a religious right map of the world
It's divided into 'christian and non-christian'. France and Spain and Italy and South American countries, which most of us would consider 80+% Catholic, are colored 'non-christian'.

Also US states/areas are divided. Utah - mormon land - is colored 'non-christian'.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:28 PM
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12. THEY DONT THINK US CATHOLICS ARE CHRISTIANS
Are you just realizing that? I live in the south where they dont even know Catholics are christians. There arent many of us, because the Klan hates catholics (we are papists), so its in the blood as they say. A liberal cant be a christian either because "liberals just believe in "hey whatever"" an actual quote. Id like to add a disclaimer that i use the term zealots when i speak of that group of christians that hate catholics. I got off a good one the other day when someone brought up about kerry and the communion, i just said that Bushes church heirarchy voted against the war AND the death penalty so why should bush be considered a christian. That shut them up.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:33 PM
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13. I saw the same thing and thought the same thing
It was such a lack of journalistic integrity to follow that up with whether she thought Kerry wasn't a Christian.

They just cut away. Although I'm not even saying it's intentional on their part because I don't know about that reporter or the producer of that report, it was a bit slanted in that they only showed about 3 seconds of a guy who kind of supported Kerry but they spent most of the segment with Bush supporters
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:07 AM
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17. I thought the same thing. Rather than ask the idiot lady if she
considered Kerry a Xtian, they kept returning to the other idiot working on his truck engine.

All in all, it was a piece of pro-bush propaganda.

I'm sure they'll return to Allentown if that lady's poor husband gets killed in Iraq. Then, it will be all tears and mourning, "he's with Jeebus now...thank Jeebus for pres *!"
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:37 PM
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16. in youth kerry thought about seminary school
and has held his practice all his life. he also lives life as an example of his christianity. bushie on the other hand never experienced his christianity until much later in life and even at that he doesnt get it

so once again, she has it flip flopped. if i was going christian i would chose kerry hands down.
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