Lindsey Graham is an awesome liar and HYPOCRITE.

[BurtWorm]

http://www.coffeeshoptimes.com/graham.html

The above link is to a transcript of Graham's inept work as a member of the Judiciary Committee during the impeachment mess. In it, he tries to imply that Charley Rangel was "spun" by the WH to besmirch ML's character in the media, a suspicion Graham got from using his wild imagination while reading tabloid stories to feed his endless fascination with Clinton's penis.

Don't let one day of decency fool you into thinking Graham is a manof sterling character. He's a phoney and a HYPOCRITE.

[rumguy]

1. I see that guy and I think - snake oil saleman

There's something about him that gives me the creeps...

[kaitykaity]

2. Bigger picture.

He's a Republican who is openly critical of Bush.
That is a rare breed indeed, an endangered species.
We have laws that protect endangered species.

So what if that species is a slimy butt worm?

[scrotim]

3. i agree; but note that graham's criticism of bush is muted and falls far

short of calls for reprimand or impeachment.

perhaps he's playing gop "bad cop" to take some of the pressure off?

[kaitykaity]

13. The Bush Thugs take people out when they do

shit like this. Maybe the Bush Thugs are afraid of
Senator Graham because he's a sleaze who knows where
the soft spots are?

We need Republicans like Graham if we are ever going
to be able to hold the Bush Thugs accountable.

[BurtWorm]

6. I suspect he is reading the writing on the wall

and wants to survive without being smeared by the Bushist brush. That's probably the very best one could expect of HYPOCRITICAL slime like Graham. ;)

[soundfury]

4. He talks a GREAT game but he just spin.N/T

[AlCzervik]

5. American politcs journal

has the best name for him. "Clinton crotch sniffer Graham"

[BlueEyedSon]

7. Sorry, im the one that started the complementary thread

:spank:

[BurtWorm]

8. It just needed counter balance.

:hi:

[BlueEyedSon]

9. I was just plain DECEIVED

[soundfury]

10. Lindsey and McCain are just playing the good cops

for Repugs now, donÕt trust either one of these fuckers.

[quinnox]

11. I agree and it is bothersome to see him being praised at DU

He is a typical hard right winger, and he is just playing politics with this in order to enhance his political status, that is all.

[Frances]

12. Graham was very smooth

and was convincing me that he was trying to get at the bottom of things -- until he said that Rumsfeld should not be held responsibile.

If Clinton deserved impeachment for consensual sex with a legal adult, then Rumsfeld deserves to be held accountable for what happened on his watch.

[truebrit71]

14. He also claims to be a Gulf War Veteran....

..even though he was in the reserves in the USA during the entire escapade....

He's a bullshit artist...just like the rest of the gop scumbags...

[BurtWorm]

15. Are you serious?!

Not that it surprises me he'd be lying about his military career. He's also a notorious faker about his down-home con-try boy imij.

[ShaneGR]

16. I don't get it

He has taken MANY positions on this matter in line with McCain, he's been very outspoken about the seriousness of the issue. So you attack him over Clinton's impeachment? Move on man, we need Repub allies on this stuff.

[BurtWorm]

17. We don't need them to the point that we forget what shit they pulled

in the past! Two weeks of okay behavior and he's suddenly "decent" and "awesome?" No way. He's got a lot more to do to make up for the damage he's done in the past. A LOT!

PS: What are these "allies" going to do for us, anyway?

[kaitykaity]

18. I always use the analogy of the two

Republicans who went into Nixon's office at the end
and said, "Mr. President, it's time for you to go," or
something to that effect.

When one of us says wat Sen. Graham says, it is ignored
as partisan sniping. Having a partisan on the other side
say the same things give us an incredible boost in
credibility. For example, the media pays attention when
Rep. Murtha, a long-time hawk, says that the Iraq war is
unwinnable.

[BurtWorm]

19. Nonsense! The facts give us credibility!

Not Lindsey Graham. There is no comparison between Graham's stance on Abu Ghraib and Lowell Weicker's, for example, on Watergate.

[kaitykaity]

21. Listen for a second.

Please?

We want people on the OTHER SIDE to agree with us. The
only way we can be rid of the Bush Criminals is for some
honorable people on the OTHER SIDE to agree with us. If
someone the OTHER SIDE respects, like LG, agrees with
us, then the OTHER SIDE will listen to them, and we are
one step closer to winning.

Get it?

[BurtWorm]

22. Lindsey Graham is not honorable.

His past behavior has shown that. But if his position on Abu Ghraib helps get the upper ups who ordered the "prisoner softening" or set the conditions for this kind of treatment of prisoners in Iraq, Guantanamo, etc., then I'll concede he may be of some use. Until then, he's the same schmuck he ever was.

[kaitykaity]

23. And I'll concede that he is not honorable.

But thank you. "He is of use to us." That's all
that matters to me right now. We need every bit of
ammunition we can get.

[BurtWorm]

24. Is he aiding and abetting this movement to settle Abu Ghraib on

this limited number of troops and their commanders? Is he aiding and abetting the closure of investigation above that level? If so, he's of less use to "us"--to the truth, really--than some overly forgiving Democrats are making him seem to be.

[kaitykaity]

25. I saw a program where the reporter rode along

with him on the way to the Rumsfeld Senate hearings,
and he came away unsatisfied. It was truly remarkable.
Also, that question he asked in the hearing about keeping
this to a few enlisted personnel got my attention big
time.

This report is why I'm sort of willing to look at LG as
potentially useful. (It was on Nightline, I think,
Friday night. I don't have a link. :shrug:)

[blindpig]

20. he's the kind of hypocrite that southerns love to elect

If you have any doubts slide over to the SC state forum and see what he's up to: cavorting with Rev Moon!

[bigtree]

26. Ah, this is the refreshing truth

I didn't dare feed the absurd posts that proclaimed him an honorary Democrat and a saint. He's got some circular game in this, I'm completely certain of it. The aim is to bury the soldiers and cut accountability off before it reaches the upper level of command. Before it reaches in to the cabinet and Executive office. Watch his every move. I wouldn't give him the mantle of reformer just because he echoes some obvious facts. Watch as he pushes the administration line.