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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:48 PM
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Front Page of CNN right now, lol
It's official, we're in the Twilight Zone:


President Bush was shown classified photographs Monday depicting acts of apparent abuse of prisoners in Iraq by U.S. soldiers, the White House said. Bush saw the images at a Pentagon meeting, after which he praised under-fire Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for doing a superb job in leading the war on terror.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:50 PM
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1. Looks like Cheney found it amusing
"Haw haw! When do I get to do it?"
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:52 PM
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3. Yeah, I did notice the smirk. Same with Rumsfeld.
He seems to be trying to stifle a grin.
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shooga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:49 AM
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40. "most dangerous game"
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:51 PM
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2. Let's assume, for one small moment, that Bush really *was* out of the loop
on this. Can you imagine how much of a shock it would be to have this dumped in your lap?

Damn, being broadsided by this certainly would not be a pleasant experience.

That being said, no one deserves it more than he does.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:54 PM
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4. he's like a bee's nest ...
I think there is some correlation between things which he takes personal; and, his mean streak which goes up and he's capable to dangerous things ... meds and people around him might not be able to contain him at some point ...

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:05 PM
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16. Ever Really look At that Man's Face
and wonder if *s got a split personality disorder? I have. His face even gestures two emotions rather than one. Place your thumb over half of his face and now cover the otherside. He looks like two very different people. Worried and determined.
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shooga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:59 AM
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44. i tried it ......
.... very accurate description ... and very freeky !!


( i think the lithium is only working on one side of the face, and the zoloft on the other )
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No Mandate Here. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:58 PM
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7. But the cheerleader said...
Bring em on! and has led an 'anything goes' campaign all along.
Here, there and everywhere.

Ask McCain in South Carolina. Ask Cleland in Georgia.

The philosophy of 'The ends justify the means' has reached a climax--- or has it?
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:11 PM
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19. Honestly, I think he was clueless this time.
I think that Rumsfeld and his minions honestly thought that they could sweep this stuff under the rug and they intentionally kept Bush in the dark.

It wouldn't be the first time. I've read tons of articles that have said that Bush is clueless about the details of most of the things going on in his administration. Upon the initial reports back in January, etc., Rumsfeld probably told Bush that he'd personally "take care of it".

No wonder he's pissed.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:08 PM
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31. Weren't the prisons in Texas on some sort of federal abuse alert
the entire time he was governor? He knows what's going on. He's a psychopath.
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shooga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:01 AM
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45. don't they do the ....
..... naked pyramid deal in "The Tomb" ??

I know they do the "laying naked in the coffin" deal.




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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:50 AM
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52. If he was out of the loop
then I hope he realizes the failure of his style of management. He is responsible for the actions of the people in his administration. He was the one that decided to delegate everything and run the country as if he was CEO of a company. If he presses the "I didn't know" line, it raises the question, "Who is, exactly, running this country?"
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:56 PM
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5. I think Bush looks kind of shellshocked....
sort of a"I'm fucked" expression....

Cheney is smirking...hard to say what Rumsfeld is doing.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:02 PM
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15. anybody get the feeling Cheney and Rumsfeld are gonna let the kid
twist in the wind as a way of sticking it to Poppy?
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:15 PM
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21. that makes way too much sense
Cheney and Rummy both got what they wanted cash wise and they got their war with saddam, its possible that having shrub lose was their plan all along
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:05 AM
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46. not shellshocked by the photos, but by the political
implications, no doubt. This sociopath used to get his jollies from blowing up frogs with BB guns-just as every future serial killer enjoyed torturing and killing defenseless animals before moving on to bigger prey.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:13 AM
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47. He is shellshocked beacuase
this might not make him look good.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:56 PM
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6. By looking at the pics, he knew that Rumsfeld was doing a superb job?
The clause about seeing the images does act as the antecedent to the clause about praising Rumsfeld.

Careless writing or a subliminal message? You be the judge.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:37 AM
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49. Please don't fire his speech writer


It would make his speeches so dull and boring.
His speech writer should be fired by Donald Trump.
Are you sure that Georgie doesn't just dictate his "thoughts" to a 6th grade C student?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:58 PM
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8. bush* looks like he's coming unglued.
Have you just seen the 'writing on the wall' little junior warmonger?
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:01 PM
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13. He's heading for some advice from his old friend...
Jack Daniels
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:50 AM
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41. Yahoo!!!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 08:58 PM
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9. Bush looks beaten down.
So did Nixon in his last few months as President.

Relax, smirky. Your troubles will soon be passed on the next guy.

Of course you promised that wouldn't happen.

Liar.
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bunk76 Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:00 PM
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11. Nah.....
he is pissed he has to be Mr.Pink. :evilgrin:
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Mr Bojangles Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 05:01 AM
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53. Nice RD tie-in ;)
*thumbs up*

speaking of thumbs, that whole "cover half his face" thing creeped the hell out of me :scared:
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:07 AM
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36. *Whipped* is the word.
He is the one who said "Bring it on!" How's that Mr. resident? :hangover:
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:00 PM
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10. Wow!
Talk about one picture that just about sums up half the problems of this country.
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Randers Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:01 PM
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12. Makes me wonder what they are getting away with
they look way too happy, to me.


As long as Haliburton is safe, etc.....
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:02 PM
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14. Since Bush
never served in war he likes to pretend these things don't happen. They happen in EVERY war and if Bush read or even talked to combat vets he would have known that. Now, if he cared would be another matter.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:05 PM
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17. 'bunch of old white guys coming out of a XXX+ movie'
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Randers Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:07 PM
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18. that's it....n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:16 PM
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23. That's what I was thinking
I was wondering how many boxes of kleenex they went through between them all?

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:13 PM
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20. His eyes look crossed
Cheney looks like the kind, old, good-hearted person he isn't.

Rumsfeld - the constant clown.
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:15 PM
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22. It's been a long week already, he should head back to the ranch.
Wouldn't want him to work too hard.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:37 PM
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32. Welcome to DU
Yeah, looks like he needs a month long vacation. Maybe two months. Why not, he's good at being AWOL.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:28 PM
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24. He looks a little worried
about finding a new job, heh.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:36 PM
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25. take
this in context to the picture and the knowledge he just saw the pictures and then reading this headline means to me he approves of the torture.

President Bush was shown classified photographs Monday depicting acts of apparent abuse of prisoners in Iraq by U.S. soldiers, the White House said. Bush saw the images at a Pentagon meeting, after which he praised under-fire Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for doing a superb job in leading the war on terror.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:44 PM
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26. I wouldn't put it past him
basically his whole premise for governing is that the ends justifies the means.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:45 PM
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27. Ugh . . .
It is as bad as it looks . . .


As President Bush put it, they are an exceptional "few bad apples" whose actions "do not reflect the nature of our country."
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:51 PM
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28. LOL! Memories of Malloy calling them vampires!!!Here is the pic
if there ever was one. Drooling miserable perverted wasted souls. God, I hate those people. :puke:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:53 PM
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29. Night of the Living Dead!
Zombies coming in to eat your brains!
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 09:53 PM
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30. They all look like they're trying not to laugh
Like a bunch of schoolboys in church after one of 'em farted. I'd guess Cheney, by the look. Trying to look serious, but all about to bust out giggling.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:44 PM
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33. They're obviously very, very worried
about how they are going to be able to spin it all.
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:52 PM
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34. I wonder if they will walk out in that order to the dock at the Hague ?
The current issue of Mother Jones has an article how Rumsfeld and Cheney were partners in crime in the Nixon administration in the Office of Economic Opportunity which was to administer -get this- 'The War on Poverty' ! Of course at that time circa 1971 they outflanked the career civil service people there with -get this- hiring PRIVATE CONTRACTORS to do consulting and make decisions.
It was a boondoogle of their making then, it is a boondoogle of their making now.

Same shit, different year, different war.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:16 AM
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39. Thanks, I always figured Chimpy was the odd man out with............
this cuddly pair



"I won't be treated like an animal," says Sabrina (with actor Steve Cochran). "I won't wiggle my hips and stay dumb."

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=sabrinastuff.com...

"Naturally, since the Sumerians didn't know what caused the flood anymore than we do, they blamed the gods. That's the advantage of religion. You're never short an explanation for anything. -Isaac Asimov (in essay 'The Last Man on Earth')"

http://www.miniluv.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=471
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:56 AM
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43. Oh, so that's who Sabrina is. Suddenly a million Goon Show refs make sense
Edited on Tue May-11-04 12:57 AM by thebigidea
We now return to roasting the Cheney Mob...
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:58 PM
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35. meanwhile, overheard a few minutes earlier:

-----

DC: "George, fer chrissake, will you stop with the Karla Faye Tucker impressions already? Abu Ghraib's not even in Texas!"

GWB: " 'oooh nooooo! pleeeeeze don't torture me!' .... bwaaaahaaahaah! ...."

DC: "George, I'm warning you ..."

GWB: " 'ohhhh nooooo! pleeeeeze don't raaaaape me!' ... ahhh hahahaa! ... "

-----


MDN





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vajraroshana Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:14 AM
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37. He always seems to wear a weird expression
No matter the occasion.

He actually doesn't look like he's aged as rapidly as some other presidents, especially Carter and Clinton. I think the gravity of being president would do that, but shrub generally looks a little more well rested than they did. And wouldn't you, if you had as many vacations as he has had?

While we're on the topic... What happened to shrub's facial tics? Where did they go? He used to display floridly an array of facial tics and rapid seeming-involuntary grimace-like expressions. Those were especially visible during his '99 campaign appearances and during the debates. They've almost completely disappeared now. Except for his famous smirks.

A former co-worker of mine had Tourette's and explained to me the nature of some of these OCD-type manifestations. Apparently it's nearly impossible to just "quit" these things without pharmaceutical help. My friend explained that he learned a non-drug technique of saving up the tics and then later letting them go in private (he never had the involuntary expressions of expletives that some people with this unfortunate disorder have, mostly just facial tics and sometimes snorting sounds as well as sometimes panic attacks when he felt confined, like when we had mandatory overtime); he stopped using that technique though, because he would end up with severe muscle cramping from all the saved-up tics coming at once. Maybe someone with more knowledge of these disorders can comment? I don't mean any putdown to anyone with these conditions.

But shrub seems to have demonstrated something like this during his most visible part of his career, but they all suddenly stopped once he got in the White House. Is he on drugs to control them, or maybe this is why he takes so many vacations?
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 12:54 AM
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42. Oh no? Face not touched by photoshop . . . I swear . . .
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vajraroshana Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 02:00 AM
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50. I'd bet it's not Jack Daniels...
but some good old pharmaceuticals from daddy's old pharm friends.

And no bothersome doctor-shopping either.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 01:27 AM
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48. Yep, Twilight Zone. There was a headline on a CNN story this morning...
...that said, "Bush praises Rumsfeld" with a subheadline that said, "New photo shows dogs, naked Iraqi prisoner." Un-fucking-believable.


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:25 AM
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51. He looks sad because he knows he is toast when those photos become public
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