Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

WTF is up with all of the hoods? From Guantanamo to Iraq: HOODS.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:45 PM
Original message
WTF is up with all of the hoods? From Guantanamo to Iraq: HOODS.
Edited on Thu May-06-04 09:47 PM by JanMichael
Why? To dehumanize them? Is it to skirt the Geneva Convention by covering their faces when they're photographed? If so why now? Or have we been doing this before el Presidente Busho came to Power?

Iraq...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.random-abstr...

Guantanamo
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.nyu.edu/glob...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.mindfully.or...


WTF is up with the hoods?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:46 PM
Response to Original message
1. Sensory deprivation is a proven interrogation method.
Call it psychological torture if you want.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. For all of them, all of the time?
Seems excessive. My money is on the Geneva bet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #1
10. I agree with that assessment
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:03 PM by prolesunited
CIA agents have anonymously confirmed to the Washington Post in a December 26, 2002 report that the CIA routinely uses so-called "stress and duress" interrogation techniques, which are claimed by human rights activists to be acts of torture, in the US-led war on terrorism. These sources state that CIA and military personnel beat up uncooperative suspects, confine them in cramped quarters, duct tape them to stretchers, and use other restraints which maintain the subject in an awkward and painful position for long periods of time. The phrase 'torture light' has been reported in the media and has been taken to mean acts that would not be legally defined as torture but where the intent of the person committing the act is the same.

The Post article continues that sensory deprivation, through the use of hoods and spraypainted goggles, sleep deprivation, and selective use of painkillers for at least one captive who was shot in the groin during his apprehension are also used. The agents also indicate in the report that the CIA as a matter of course hands suspects over to foreign intelligence services with far fewer qualms about torture for more intensive interrogation.

The mere act of handing somebody to another organisation or country where it is foreseeable that torture would occur is regarded as a violation of the Torture Convention. The Post reported that one US official said, "If you don't violate someone's human rights some of the time, you probably aren't doing your job." The US Government denies that torture is being conducted in the detention camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture

Sensory deprivation
Sensory deprivation is the reduction of sensory input into the human system, whether naturally occurring or induced. Simple artificial systems can reduce visual and auditory input while more complex designs can also reduce olfactory, tactile, thermoceptive, gustative and 'gravitational' sensations. Sensory deprivation has been used in various alternative medicines, for torture or punishment, and in psychological experimentation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_deprivation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
2. I wonder
If they're made by a Halliburton subsidiary? Someone makes them. Would be quite interesting to find out who.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:48 PM
Response to Original message
4. I wonder
If they're made by a Halliburton subsidiary? Someone makes them. Would be quite interesting to find out who.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:48 PM
Response to Original message
5. It makes it harder to identify
the people who are beating you.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:52 PM
Response to Original message
6. It's just a habit.......
from the good ole repuke Ku Klux Klan days.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Not to mention..
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:03 PM by girl gone mad
Skull and Bones.

Que the conspiracy theorists.

Edit: "it's just a habit" no pun intended, right? :p
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:52 PM
Response to Original message
7. Pacifiers, I guess
It's hard to resist or collude if you're blind and your hearing is dampened.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:01 PM
Response to Original message
8. I have read, although I don't have a link to it
that not only do the use the hoods but, in fact urinate on them beforehand so thet they add more to the unpleasantness. I will look for a link.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:05 PM
Response to Original message
11. old Shin Bet routine
They started in the first Intifada. Even had a name for it: Shabach, a barbarous practice of forcing prisoners to wear urine-soaked, suffocating hoods.
Seems we learned a lot of the "tools of the trade" from Israel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. we helped
http://www.namibian.com.na/2004/march/world/042B1CAF84....
"According to Israeli security sources, the Shin Bet has shared interrogation expertise with American counterparts since the mid-1990s amid fears of new Islamist violence on US soil.

"The Americans were not equipped for cracking this brand of fanaticism," a senior Israeli source said.

"We helped."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:12 PM
Response to Original message
12. "The Manchurian Candidate" is a really old movie.
I was young and fairly politically confused when I first saw it. It's about this sort of thing, but it's really about us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct 21st 2014, 03:47 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC