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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:50 PM
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Rep from Calif says CNN, MSNBC & Fox was notified of torture
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:01 PM by napi21
on Janyary 14th in the early briefing. This was Rep. Duncan Hunter R-Cal. Does any of you remember hearing this?

It seems that of the 435 members of Congress, he seems to be the only one who heard this!

I don't remember anything about it either, and I watch CNN and MSNBC a lot!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:54 PM
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1. Do you mean "torture"?
Just thought you might want to correct your spelling...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:54 PM
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2. Link?
Now are you saying Congress was notified or the media was notified, or both?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:55 PM
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3. I never
Edited on Thu May-06-04 09:56 PM by shraby
heard such a thing either..and I always watch CNN at least till just the last couple of weeks when it got so slanted I couldn't stomach it anymore. I heard the claim on C-Span today. :crazy:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:00 PM
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4. Classic example of why a picture is worth a billion words
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:00 PM by RobertSeattle
It was announced to the press back on Jan 16th in Baghdad but without pictures it got a "ho hum". 5 months later with picture it is "Oh god!"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/20/sprj.nirq.abuse/index.... << Note the date


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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:05 PM
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5. Well, I totally missed that! I guess if you say something with
a very matter of fact attitude, EVERYBODY misses it!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:07 PM
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Seeing is believing. that's why.
and to be fair, you can't convey the full meaning in just words.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:07 PM
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6. The press release was a total understatement.
"U.S. soldiers reportedly posed for photographs with partially unclothed Iraqi prisoners, a Pentagon official told CNN on Tuesday."

"Partially?" That's a far cry from what we've seen.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:13 PM
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7. Good thing there are pictures.
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:14 PM by sallyseven
The red cross complained, fell on deaf ears. Rummy has to go as well as condi, cheney and wolfie.
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MadashellLynn Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:33 PM
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9. partially clothed?
the hoods are now partially clothed WTF?
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:46 PM
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12. Check this quote out...
"U.S. soldiers reportedly posed for photographs with partially unclothed Iraqi prisoners, a Pentagon official told CNN on Tuesday."

Partially unclothed? I guess them having a hood over their head accounts for some type of clothing.



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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:38 PM
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16. Hunter opened up a big ol' can of worms
Now we know why the WH was loudly trumpeting that Chimp doesn't read the papers. Even more seriously for herr Rummler:

"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has been briefed on the investigation, officials said."
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bolokshi Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:27 PM
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8. But Why
didn't CNN follow up on the story? What where they worried about....they are just the same as the Red Cross, when the milk has been spilled thats when you try to pick it up. Its all about protecting ones gain now!! Right!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:34 PM
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10. Today's Sham Congressional Session...
Hunter was point man for defending the indefensible. His tactic? Obscuring when and who knew what and where. His prop? What you cited above. As Steny Hoyer let loose after being shunned by this turd, if it was said so publicly, why wasn't there the outrage at that time...by the REPUGNICANS.

This is all CYA. They can't address the fundamental issues of the invasion and now must distort as their only defense. Pitiful!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:41 PM
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11. Nancy Pelosi said "If this info to the news is to be considered
keeping Congress informed, we're in a lot more trouble than we thought".

Can the Dems succeede at proving this CYA?

I'm ashamed to say that the Pubs are much better at dropping blame on people....even when it's not deserved. Why dan't the Dems do it when it's TRUE?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:51 PM
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13. We're Afraid To Use The Truth
We've been bashed and demonized so much in the past decade by the flying monkeys that it's hard to get a coherant message out without it being immediately pounced on and distorted.

I've heard the argument that Democrats are too sophisticated to "lower themselves" into name-calling and matching lies with lies. I tend to think it's a degree of both laziness and our own arrogance. For many years we waived off the right wing nuts as noise that didn't pose a threat until not only was the elephant in the tent, it was sitting on our throats. First step back is reaffirming we have truth and morals on our side, then its working together on overthrowing this regime and working on the many messes that will be left over.

Cheers!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:56 PM
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14. Well, we're doing it here on DU, but we don't have the mike.
We need more Kennedy's and Biden's, to take hold of the mike and do some yelling. I don't accept the fact that we're in the minority. It might hamper being able to set the agenda, and get laws passed, but it doesn't tape your mouth! Plus the media loves reporting stuff like that so we'd get the coverage too.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:01 PM
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15. The Voices Have To Come From The Bottom Up Now
Kennedy & Biden have taken the mike...they're just never heard or what they say is chopped up in the hash that is today's 24/7 newscycle.

I've been a strong advocate to put a lot of Democratic resources into Congresional races this year, as retaking the house is our greatest safe guard on the liberties we still have left and one hell of a a block if this regime steals the election again. There are some great local Democrats (and we see them here on DU) that are the real voices that need to be heard and we should help them wherever possible. Obviously checkbooks is a good start right now. Other creative venues along the way couldn't hurt either.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:40 PM
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17. The Dems should be screaming: "So press releases are how...
this administration notifies congress?" WTF!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:06 AM
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18. Exactly.
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:27 AM by Old and In the Way
I watched that exchange on CSPAN. This administration obviously had the real story about the prison abuses and chose to cover it up from Congress. So did the military. So did the Press. All 3 are complicit in hiding the truth from the American people.

If they'll do it on a problem like this, what else is being kept from Congress?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:12 AM
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19. we need to keep the pressure on the media. That's our best
option right now. If they get enough emails, they'll pay attention.

I am going to send an email to CNN, MSNBC & Fox (I guess) asking where they were when they got this information in January. If we all do the same, it can't hurt! I have to believe they are't feeling too proud of themselves now for having missed this and having to broadcast their failure.
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