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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:49 PM
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Bush Pissed at Rumsfeld.
You probably already know this but appearently this shit with torture has been going on since at least December. So appearently Bush is pissed that he did not know about any of this before he heard about it on T.V. So is Bush pissed because Rumsfeld didn't tell him or because it got leaked to the press? What do you think?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:50 PM
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1. pissed because it got leaked
otherwise he wouldn't have to clutter his beautiful mind with it all.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:08 PM
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10. CBS had a video
this am, but it's pulled now..General Peter Pace gave a press conference and was ASKED if Bush knew....he replied "YES". Someone posted that if anyone knew how to copy that video, to do so because it would be pulled, and surer than shit, it was.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:51 PM
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2. I think bullshit.
We have a serial responsibility-evader in the White House.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:52 PM
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3. I think you got it....
Always good to have a fallguy just in case....He'll drop Rummy like a hot potater if it means saving his own ass....
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:55 PM
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6. Where you born yesterday?
How many people in this adminstration who screwed up got fired? No you have to come and the say the emperor is naked to get fired.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:57 PM
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7. Haven't you been reading....
Someone is saying the emperor is naked ???
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:15 PM
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13. The best examples would be...
Richard Clark and Paul O'Neil. And they got crucified!!
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:53 PM
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4. It's a ploy.
Pure politics. Shrub takes Rummy to the woodshed and looks good because it's not his fault. (We have to keep things like this away from the leader of the free world; he can only handle so much in one day.)

As I previously posted, we'll get to the bottom of this mess, but not to the top.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:54 PM
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5. pissed but not at rumsfeld
As you say, he's pissed it was leaked, will allow others to say he's pissed at rumsfeld, like he'll allow others to say he's sorry. All he wants to do is smooth things over till the public forgets about it. And the furor might even serve a propose here at home, as the battles going on in Iraq are receiving little attention.
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walteraz Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:00 PM
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8. Does Powell Want Out?
The House of cards is falling apart. To bad Powell is a repuke.

Does Powell want out....Both stories
at link:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/050704B.shtml


Powell Aides Go Public on Rift With Bush
By Gary Younge
The Guardian U.K.
Thursday 06 May 2004

Chief of staff says secretary of state is fed up with apologising for the administration and is disdainful of ideological hawks.

Colin Powells key aide has described US sanctions policy against countries such as Pakistan and Cuba as "the dumbest policy on the face of the Earth".

In an article in GQ magazine Larry Wilkerson, chief of staff of the United States secretary of state, bemoans Mr Powells firefighting role in President George Bushs cabinet.

"He has spent as much time doing damage control and, shall we say, apologising around the world for some less-than-graceful actions as he has anything else."

<...>

"Colin Powell Wants Out."
Reuters
Wednesday 05 May 2004

Powell Would Not Want to Serve 4 More Years, Aide Says.

WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Colin Powell is weary and would not want to serve another full four years under President Bush, a close aide was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

"Hes tired. Mentally and physically," Powells chief of staff, Larry Wilkerson, who has known the retired general for 15 years, is quoted as telling GQ Magazine. <...>
Dick Storm
5/6/2004
9:17 pm EDT
Re: Does Powell Want Out?

I dont blame him.
Can you imagine, Rumsfeld not resigning over all this torture and abuse?

Want an easy way out Colin? Hand in your resignation and say you cant stand the smell.

That would make you a real presidential hopeful 4 years from now.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:00 PM
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9. We now have *proof* that Bush doesn't want to hear bad news.
... and history has shown time and time again leaders who don't want the truth lead their societies to failure.

It's time to get an adult back in the White House. I'm voting for Kerry, I'm passionate about Kerry because he's an adult.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:11 PM
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11. Powell was in Luv with *


on Larry King last night. I wanted to puke he was sooo much a kiss up to Bush.
He didn't look tired about defending Bush at all.

If he can lie like this, he needs to step down now.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:16 PM
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15. kissy kissy
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:13 PM
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12. Pissed ONLY because they got caught
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:16 PM
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14. WHAT!?!?
Bush pissed on Rumsfeld???? :)
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:46 PM
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16. Bush is acting pissed for the media, it's as transparent as glass.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:05 PM
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17. Rummy says it's not torture . . .
He calls it abuse . . . "I won't respond to the word "torture""


Torture Accomplished


I is sorry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .that we got caught!
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