If you could decide any ticket, both top and bottom right now, who would

[Bombtrack]

it be? It can be any democrat who ran for president in 2003/4 plus anyone for vp.

I think I would chose a Wesley Clark/Andrew Young ticket. I don't see how Bush beats that.

My second choice would be Clark/Graham, and my third choice would be Edwards/Clark.

[toddzilla]

1. kucinich/mckinney.

[Bombtrack]

7. Do you actually believe we woulnd't get crushed under either of them

on the ticket much less both.

[wyldwolf]

14. At some point, everyone would magically begin to agree with them...

...and they'd ride a wave of overwhelming support into the White House. </sarcasm>

...unless, of course, winning wasn't the objective.

[bigbillhaywood]

33. Winning is the objective. A long-term win, not a short-term one.

How do you think the conservative Republicans got to where they are today? 30 years ago, nobody would have expected a right-wing loon like Santorum to be a PA Senator. But the conservatives were patient and launched what the IRA called a "long war". Don't forget, the neocon movement came out of Goldwater's doomed bid for the White House. Just because your candidate is too "radical" to win the immediate election doesn't mean you lose in the long run. Patience, long-term grass-roots organizing and good strategy and someday someone like Kucinich will be as electable as Bush. Fuck moving to the center-- it's too far to the right. Let's focus on moving the center back to the left, it will take time but pay dividends.

[wyldwolf]

35. 30 years ago, a Republican ticket as extreme as Kucinich/McKinney...

...would not have made it to the White House.

I believe that by posting such a ticket, the poster felt the win would be short-term.

Wasn't that the point of the thread?

[Zinfandel]

15. Great, my second choice!

[serryjw]

31. Great ticket.....Or Kucinich/John Lewis

Our boy Dk just got vindicated by General Odom......Turn over to UN!

[KittyWampus]

2. Kerry/Clark... Kerry Being Unflappable & Eminently Competent

Clark being the skilled Diplomat revered by many nations across the globe (including Muslims).

[angryinoville]

3. Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean

with Kucinich heading up the Department of Peace

[loftycity]

4. Kucinich/Clark

[knight_of_the_star]

5. Clark/Anyone

I just want Wes on the top of the ticket:cry:!

[Rosco T.]

6. Could this debacle be enough...

to make McCain jump ship?

- if Rumfart dosen't quit
- if Shrubya dosen't fire him?
- if the Bush Youth in the Senate block action to remove?

could this be enough for him to say, "enough, this is not my party."

to join Kerry because the Repubs are no longer 'have the interest and intregity of the country' in their party?

would he formally 'cross the aisle'?

just a thought.

[never_get_over_it]

8. Kucinich/Graham or Graham/Kucinich

either one would work for me....

[SOS]

9. How about

Joseph Wilson and Jim Jeffords?

[JohnLocke]

10. Edwards/Clark

[Zinfandel]

11. Dennis Kucinich & George Miller (from Bay Area)

Two congressmen, not owing anyone!
:bounce:


:bounce: :bounce:


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Minstrel Boy]

12. Dean/Byrd

Would love to see the Prez and Vice Prez debates that would bring. And even though he's 200 years old, Byrd will survive Cheney.

[OpSomBlood]

13. Dean/Graham.

n/t

[oldlady]

16. okay... you gave me too much creative freedom...

how about all the Dem candidates form a coalition and run as one-- just so we could all relearn the old checks and balances thing and conceptualize working for the greater good of all instead of "winning" by destruction....uh...I don't know who'd sleep where in the White House, but I'd welcome a whole sorority of first wives and communal living on the hill. YEAH...I can dream.

*sigh* okay, second best alternative (though not much more of a stretch) Kucinich/Feingold

[truebrit71]

17. Clark/Durbin.

..just a thought...

Who WILL win?

KERRY/CLARK

[thethinker]

18. Kucinich/Dean

Or maybe, Dean/Kucinich.

In the end, they had the right message.

[Andy_Stephenson]

28. Yes

they did.

[nonconformist]

19. Dean/Clark, Dean/Kerry, Clark/Edwards, Kerry/Edwards

In that order. I think those are the most compatible, balanced matches.

[Zinfandel]

20. Bush/Cheney...Losers!!!

However if they win, we are going to be BIG time losers...We, who work for a living. (forget about fair wages, minimum wage, Social Security, decent health benefits, our civil rights or caring for the future of our environment).

It will be the corporate interest, business as usual...war forever, the draft, union busters, millions more jobs over seas and discrimination for everyone who disagrees with them and are not Christian republicans personified.
:puke:

[LWolf]

21. Kucinich

VP possibilities, in no particular order:

Tom Harkin
Russ Feingold
Jim Jeffords
Edwards

[TroubleMan]

22. Kucinich/McKinney

Gotta go with people who will fight for what I believe in.

[hang a left]

23. Shoot

I don't even know who is for real anymore. All of my heros.........gone.

[Kazak]

24. Kucinich/Dean

Just think...Dean for SIXTEEN years. ;)

[AnnitaR]

25. Clark/H.Clinton

That's my dream ticket!

However I am going to work my ass of for Kerry and throw some cash to Wes's new PAC!

[usregimechange]

26. Kerry/Fiengold

[troublemaker]

27. Wes Clark/Robert Rubin

Actually, Wes Clark/Cate Blanchett, but I doubt she's eligible

[AP]

29. Edwards-Hal Ford-Jennifer Granholm-Ruth Ann Minner-Debbie Stabenow-

Barack Obama...

They're all politicians I'd like to see more of.

[PurityOfEssence]

30. Edwards/Schakowsky

Sigh.

[wabeewoman]

32. Dean/Clark

Can you imagine what Dean would be saying now? Man, I miss him!

[OneBlueSky]

34. Gary Hart, Wesley Clark . . . n/t

.

[Vladimir]

36. On principle or to win?

On principle: Kucinich/Sharpton

To win: Dean/Edwards

PS since we are fantasizing, I am assuming that the primaries never happened at all - including Dean's public fall from grace.