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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:07 PM
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If you could decide any ticket, both top and bottom right now, who would
it be? It can be any democrat who ran for president in 2003/4 plus anyone for vp.

I think I would chose a Wesley Clark/Andrew Young ticket. I don't see how Bush beats that.

My second choice would be Clark/Graham, and my third choice would be Edwards/Clark.
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:13 PM
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1. kucinich/mckinney.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:08 PM
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7. Do you actually believe we woulnd't get crushed under either of them
on the ticket much less both.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:02 PM
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14. At some point, everyone would magically begin to agree with them...
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:03 PM by wyldwolf
...and they'd ride a wave of overwhelming support into the White House. </sarcasm>

...unless, of course, winning wasn't the objective.
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:03 AM
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33. Winning is the objective. A long-term win, not a short-term one.
How do you think the conservative Republicans got to where they are today? 30 years ago, nobody would have expected a right-wing loon like Santorum to be a PA Senator. But the conservatives were patient and launched what the IRA called a "long war". Don't forget, the neocon movement came out of Goldwater's doomed bid for the White House. Just because your candidate is too "radical" to win the immediate election doesn't mean you lose in the long run. Patience, long-term grass-roots organizing and good strategy and someday someone like Kucinich will be as electable as Bush. Fuck moving to the center-- it's too far to the right. Let's focus on moving the center back to the left, it will take time but pay dividends.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:44 AM
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35. 30 years ago, a Republican ticket as extreme as Kucinich/McKinney...
...would not have made it to the White House.

I believe that by posting such a ticket, the poster felt the win would be short-term.

Wasn't that the point of the thread?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:14 PM
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15. Great, my second choice!
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:26 AM
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31. Great ticket.....Or Kucinich/John Lewis
Our boy Dk just got vindicated by General Odom......Turn over to UN!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:16 PM
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2. Kerry/Clark... Kerry Being Unflappable & Eminently Competent
Clark being the skilled Diplomat revered by many nations across the globe (including Muslims).
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:24 PM
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3. Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean
with Kucinich heading up the Department of Peace
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:25 PM
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4. Kucinich/Clark
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:29 PM
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5. Clark/Anyone
I just want Wes on the top of the ticket :cry:!
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:06 PM
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6. Could this debacle be enough...
to make McCain jump ship?

- if Rumfart dosen't quit
- if Shrubya dosen't fire him?
- if the Bush Youth in the Senate block action to remove?

could this be enough for him to say, "enough, this is not my party."

to join Kerry because the Repubs are no longer 'have the interest and intregity of the country' in their party?

would he formally 'cross the aisle'?

just a thought.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:38 PM
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8. Kucinich/Graham or Graham/Kucinich
either one would work for me....
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:42 PM
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9. How about
Joseph Wilson and Jim Jeffords?
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:43 PM
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10. Edwards/Clark
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:47 PM
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11. Dennis Kucinich & George Miller (from Bay Area)
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:18 PM by Zinfandel
Two congressmen, not owing anyone!
:bounce:


:bounce: :bounce:


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:58 PM
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12. Dean/Byrd
Would love to see the Prez and Vice Prez debates that would bring. And even though he's 200 years old, Byrd will survive Cheney.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:00 PM
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13. Dean/Graham.
n/t
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:17 PM
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16. okay... you gave me too much creative freedom...
how about all the Dem candidates form a coalition and run as one-- just so we could all relearn the old checks and balances thing and conceptualize working for the greater good of all instead of "winning" by destruction....uh...I don't know who'd sleep where in the White House, but I'd welcome a whole sorority of first wives and communal living on the hill. YEAH...I can dream.

*sigh* okay, second best alternative (though not much more of a stretch) Kucinich/Feingold
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:17 PM
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17. Clark/Durbin.
..just a thought...

Who WILL win?

KERRY/CLARK
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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:27 PM
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18. Kucinich/Dean
Or maybe, Dean/Kucinich.

In the end, they had the right message.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:01 AM
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28. Yes
they did.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:32 PM
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19. Dean/Clark, Dean/Kerry, Clark/Edwards, Kerry/Edwards
In that order. I think those are the most compatible, balanced matches.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:38 PM
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20. Bush/Cheney...Losers!!!
Edited on Thu May-06-04 10:47 PM by Zinfandel
However if they win, we are going to be BIG time losers...We, who work for a living. (forget about fair wages, minimum wage, Social Security, decent health benefits, our civil rights or caring for the future of our environment).

It will be the corporate interest, business as usual...war forever, the draft, union busters, millions more jobs over seas and discrimination for everyone who disagrees with them and are not Christian republicans personified.
:puke:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:45 PM
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21. Kucinich
VP possibilities, in no particular order:

Tom Harkin
Russ Feingold
Jim Jeffords
Edwards
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:02 PM
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22. Kucinich/McKinney

Gotta go with people who will fight for what I believe in.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:04 PM
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23. Shoot
I don't even know who is for real anymore. All of my heros.........gone.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:07 PM
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24. Kucinich/Dean
Just think...Dean for SIXTEEN years. ;)
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:48 PM
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25. Clark/H.Clinton
That's my dream ticket!

However I am going to work my ass of for Kerry and throw some cash to Wes's new PAC!

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:51 PM
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26. Kerry/Fiengold
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:58 PM
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27. Wes Clark/Robert Rubin
Actually, Wes Clark/Cate Blanchett, but I doubt she's eligible
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:06 AM
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29. Edwards-Hal Ford-Jennifer Granholm-Ruth Ann Minner-Debbie Stabenow-
Barack Obama...

They're all politicians I'd like to see more of.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:11 AM
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30. Edwards/Schakowsky
Sigh.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 AM
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32. Dean/Clark
Can you imagine what Dean would be saying now? Man, I miss him!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 01:18 AM
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34. Gary Hart, Wesley Clark . . . n/t
.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:25 AM
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36. On principle or to win?
On principle: Kucinich/Sharpton

To win: Dean/Edwards

PS since we are fantasizing, I am assuming that the primaries never happened at all - including Dean's public fall from grace.
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