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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:45 PM
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Lieberman defends Rumsfeld from calls for his resignation
"There's not enough evidence to convict Secretary Rumsfeld of the kind of wrongdoing that would lead him to resign, or for the president to ask for his resignation."

-- Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn.


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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:47 PM
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1. Do you think they have something on him? Or he wants to
make sure that he can stick around protecting his interest and the occupation of Palestine.
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Sgt. Peppers Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:47 PM
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2. He did not get the nomination, so now he will hurt the Dem's
What'a ya bet.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:48 PM
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9. Puked out peckerwood!
Ack!
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:43 PM
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45. stupid asshole
and he wonders why nobody caught the Joe-mentum? Why don't you and Zell both just go away?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:47 PM
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3. imagine that
:eyes:

go home Joe
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:47 PM
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4. Very interesting Statement (nt)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:47 PM
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5. can we ask Joe to resign from the Democratic Party?
what is this man thinking??? Oh, I bet he hasn't read the 53 page report, watched the TV or read the newspapers...just like the rest of them.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:54 PM
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14. He should retire
don't even listen to him. He's a secret Repub anyway.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:07 PM
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38. Convinced that if Gore hadn't chosen him it would have been Landslide!
I got a creepy feeling when Gore announced him for VP. Then I got over it, but later on, "creepy feeling" proved to be correct.

For all his liberal voting record he's no friend to us and I start to wonder that he didn't "throw" the election with his behavior since the "Selection."

He is disgusting. Doesn't support Democrats and is so partisan for Sharon that one wonders how he can live with his conscience!
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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:48 PM
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6. Why are there more horses asses than there are horses??????
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:48 PM
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7. Doesn't that just figure?
I'm so glad this guy isn't our nominee. Blech.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:48 PM
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8. Lieberman is a neo-con, he wants the Mideast Holy War
For his own sick religious ideals.

Sick, sick, sick...

How many must die, joe?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:49 PM
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10. Why can't he just stay quiet?
he's shilling for the PNAC - that's why.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:50 PM
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11. Fuck off, Holy Joe!
And to think I actually voted for your ass only 4 years ago.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:54 PM
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31. No Holy Joe on Gore ticket = Gore in the White House.
Kerry would have been a better fit for Gore as VP.

John
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:52 PM
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12. Joe is simply auditioning
for a spot beside Zell Miller in the Friends of Bush Hall of Fame.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:54 PM
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Joe voted for these types of torture and abuse....
by voting for Dubya's illegal war. His hands are not clean.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:54 PM
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13. Now you know why you didn't get the nomination, Joe..


So STFU!
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:55 PM
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15. What are you doing, Joe?
What? Why? Where? When?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:57 PM
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16. Still hunting for that bone in the BFEE cabinet. Nomination never
a realistic goal - he is smart enough to have known it. He was there to kick W's competition from inside.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:43 PM
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46. Very true!
I will never forgive him for being so rotten to Wes Clark.

Lieberman knew he couldn t win; he was just doing damage.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:58 PM
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17. Ya know, I've tried occasionally to defend Joe(with difficulty) and I will
Edited on Thu May-06-04 06:59 PM by hlthe2b
still point out that his voting record is almost totally consistent with progressive Democrat, whether environmental issues, labor, etc (unlike Zig Zag Zell). But, I just don't think Lieberman can see beyond his number one priority, which is as pro-Israeli as the neocons. That is clearly his blind spot and seems to be behind all the pro-Repug things that he has done/said.... Less I attrack attacks from the ME forum regulars, I think one can be pro-fairness for both Israelis and Palestinians WITHOUT leaning too far in either direction. That Lieberman does lean so far towards Sharon and the US neocons, is evidence to me that he is not able to be (or interested in being) "pro-fairness."

Nonetheless, I'd take Holy Joe any day over Zell.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:59 PM
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18. Leave it to Joe to be the ONLY DEM SENATOR rushing to Rum's defense!
For lack of a better word, he really is a douchebag.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:59 PM
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19. boot licking piece of shit n/t
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:59 PM
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20. Pardon?
It is not about what Rummy did wrong - and he did plenty - it is about pissing off the entire Arab world (again), shocking the (irrelevant) Europeans enough that even formerly pro-war politicians did a 180, ignoring the Geneva Constitution (again), proving right the worst fears about the US not joining the ICC (again), destroying the minuscule hopes of establishing peace in Iraq, ...

So please, even if he did really know nothing, he is responsible and needs to be fired - for incompetence, if for no other reason.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 06:59 PM
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21. Having Holy Joe in the Democratic Party
serves no purpose. This is way beyond wanting to kick someone out of the big tent. He is way beyond being a conservative Dem. It is one thing to work towards bipartisan cooperation in government. It is quite another to conspire with the enemy in a time of war. And yes Virginia we are at war for control for the direction of this country. A war we cannot afford to lose. If Holy Joe cannot and will not moderate his tone and stand as a Democrat I will not censor his speech. But he has no right to say these things within the Democratic Party.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:01 PM
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22. Oh, now that's surprising...
not
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:05 PM
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23. Has anyone ever considered that Leiberman shared info with James
Baker and staff during the vote fight? Is the question absurd? If yes, which is more absurd - the positions he takes and the words he speaks and the media that gives him plenty of coverage....or the question on the subject line?
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:57 PM
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33. Do you have any info links about this?
Edited on Thu May-06-04 07:57 PM by Cascadian
If you do, I would LOVE to read up on this subject. Joe Lieberman seems to me like a Republican operative. He is a disgrace to the party.


John
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:48 PM
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35. No, there are no links - it's something that popped into my head
as I've tried to replay all the information from 2000 in light of his conduct now - I was quite satisfied with the selection at the time - I thought that a lot of people must have approved of the selection. Joe was so exuberant. I liked his wife. I really liked the idea of a VP who was Jewish. It fit my idea of inclusion and was a step in the direction of opening up to a Native American, Black American, or female President. Everything was OK with me except for his assinine moral criticism of Clinton during the character assassination and the money he took from CANF.

In the last 10 or so months, I've tried to figure out why I never read any signs in him of his disgusting positions and I can't believe how easy it is for him to earn a guest shot on the propaganda shows. His positions are abhorrant.

So I thought maybe I didn't see something back then. How could he have changed that much in three years? How can he say exactly what a right winger would say? Calling himself a Democrat became hypocritical to me.

It's only a thought.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:11 PM
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34. You just read my mi nd!!
Edited on Thu May-06-04 08:11 PM by goclark
I was thinking the same thing. Little Joey really knows how to sit on the the fence at the right(wrong) times doesn't he?

I wonder what they offered him to defend the worthless Rummy?

I wonder how much they had to pay him to take the Underground Railroad to Baker during that Unelection?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:05 PM
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24. OK ALL TOGETHER NOW 1 - 2 - 3 UNCLE JOE ......
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:06 PM
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25. Christ on a pony...
Anyone have *enough* of Lieberman *yet?*

I wish Holy Joe would rush to the defense of Democrats as fast as he does to the unholy Bush* cabal
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:09 PM
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26. He likes their war which profits Israel.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:29 PM
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27. And a big "FU" to anyone who supported him in the primaries from me!
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:49 PM
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28. i tell ya, the repukes got ONE thing right about the 2000 election,
Joe Lieberman IS a Loserman. Can he get any more bitter about losing??? What a pathetic, ungraceful, disenchanted has been politician. He needs to be kicked to the other side of the aisle with Zell Miller. What a disgrace of a man.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:52 PM
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29. This comment alone smacks of treason in the Democratic Party.
Could somebody in Conneticut PLEASE run against this guy. Take your party back from Grima Wormtongue-inspired leadership from people like Lieberman. He is a worm within the party!

Maybe he'll join Zell Miller and back Bush too!


John
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:52 PM
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30. Joementum is a repuke
in dems clothing only . . .


I is sorry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .that we got caught!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:55 PM
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32. With friends like Lieberman, who needs Republicans?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:50 PM
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36. joe is nuttier than a shit house rat
he just makes my flesh crawl
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:53 PM
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37. He needs to go.
Seriously. No snide remarks...no cute nicknames. The man, if he ever actually DID have any sort of moral compass, just needs to step aside. I shudder to think that this is who we'd be running post-Gore had things turned out differently.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:11 PM
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39. I wish Joe would have supported Clinton
During the Starr Inquisition as much as he's supporting Rumsfeld now.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:25 PM
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40. BWaaahahahahahaha
From one who gains his "moral authority" waving the shame of the holocaust in the face of WASPS, this fucking son of a bitch wants to be an Arab-Auschwitz denier.

This fucker is no longer just a silly neo-con enabler. He is a sick fuck.
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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:28 PM
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41. Sweet baby Jeebus!
Somebody make the bad man stop!!!
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:30 PM
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42. Joe Lieberman is such a suck-ass
There must be some reason he stays in the Democratic party, it is just beyond me to figure out the reason.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:33 PM
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43. What exactly do the pubbies have on holy Joe?
because this is unbelievable. Talk about a double standard! He would comdemn Clinton for lying about a blow job but now he defends Rummy for setting up U.S. troops to commit human rights abuses against prisoners?
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:36 PM
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44. Go away Joe..
Just keep your damn mouth shut.

I think Joe-mentom wants to appear "statesmanlike" and goes out of his way to defend these gasbags.

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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:49 PM
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47. I have a question
Presidential candidates seem to have a committee that helps them pick a vice president. Does any one remember who helped Gore pick his running mate?

Next question - who is helping Kerry pick his running mate?

I really think, looking back, if Gore had of become president there might have been a strange accident and we would have had Holy Joe for president.

I also really think Chaney is running the country, not Bush. I think most of the evilness of this administration comes from the vice president's office.

I think Kerry needs to be very careful where he getting his advice, and who he picks for a running mate.

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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:09 PM
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48. Lieberman, STFU!
Okay?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:09 PM
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49. I REALLY would like to state some things about LIEberman....
but I don't think it would go well on these forums... :eyes:
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:04 PM
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54. C'mon let it loose...
...he's a sanctimonious asshole.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:13 PM
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50. With Democrats like Joe who needs republicans???
..thanks again for feeding the notion that when the Democrats hava firing line they form a circle....

..Will you please just shut up and go away..??
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:21 PM
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51. Why am I sooooo not surprised by this?
Lieberman, the great "liberal, progressive" candidate according to some on this board.

Riiiiiight!

He is soooo beyond contempt for the last past 4 years worth of outrages he has committed.

He is simply scum.
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:37 PM
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52. Him and Zell oughta get married...nt
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:01 PM
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53. Who will lead the fight for Israel??
I wish he would go and officially work for Israel instead of pretending he works for the US.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:09 PM
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55. Holy Joe...
cut straight from the Zell Miller mold!
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