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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:41 PM
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Has any president ever apologized to the "enemy" for anything before?
I mean while while the war was still going on like this one is? I was happy to see it and all, but it must be another first for Junior. Does that seem odd to anyone else? Why would Bush do that I wonder? Think we are getting ready to leave? It just seems strange.

Don

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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:43 PM
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1. That was NOT an apology.. we need to quit calling it that at all
it was no more meaningful that you saying that you were sorry that you ate too many donuts this morning because now you have a stomach ache.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:44 PM
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2. The U.S. Army has never admitted to systemic torture before.
That's the first here.

My Lai was an atrocity, but it was committed by a small number of troops, and there was no official suggestion that the atrocity had been ordered by higher-ups.

In this case, it is clear that the torture in Iraqi prisons was conducted with the full knowledge and even under orders by the CIA and other high-up officials. The only unknown at this point is: how high does it go?

Did Rumsfeld order torture to "soften up" prisoners during interrogation? Did Bush?
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:45 PM
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3. I'm wondering if he thinks Jordan is in Iraq...........
What an idiot!


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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:49 PM
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4. LMAO
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:51 PM
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7. Well, there was a King Hussein there...
Maybe he got confused?
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:50 PM
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5. early in the admin, the spy plane deal in China
-not during war I know, but we had to say we were "very sorry" to the Chinese
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convict_9653 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:51 PM
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6. Apologizing to the "enemy"
Not sure what that means, but I see a difference between the "enemy" and the "people of Iraq."
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:53 PM
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8. We must keep this in perspective
The Iraqi people are NOT THE ENEMY!!!!!! Most of those detainees are NOT THE ENEMY. They have been held, without charges, without proof, and they are being tortured.

If we accept that the US is occupying Iraq, then we must also take into account that the US is RESPONSIBLE for the people of Iraq. They are not the enemy.

This is precisely the problem the military faces today - distinguishing who are the terrorists, and who are simply caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. BUT, that still does not excuse the degrading things the US did to these people. THESE ARE PEOPLE! They are not the faceless evil enemy. That is all too easy. Degrading them, humiliating them, torturing them, villifying them - dehumanizing them - that is what the military has done. IT MUST STOP.
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