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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:33 PM
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Why the hell is it such a big deal for a president to say "I'm sorry"?
It's fucking insane. We all know that Bush is sorry the abuse happened. We can argue over whether his revulsion is real or whether he's just sorry because it hurts his re-election. But either way his public statements up to this point on the issue are basically an apology. But the media is making a big deal about the "I'm sorry" he evidently said to Jordan's king.

I don't get it. I think we as a people are sometimes just insane. I guess this is why I could probably never be president because I would have said I'm sorry from the beginning of this controversy.

Fuck our worthless, shameful, POS corporate media that plays up an "I'm sorry" into some kind of big deal...
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:37 PM
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1. 'cause he actually managed to enunciate it. . .and 'cause
as he'd never, ever, ever, throughout a lifetime of collosal screw ups, ever been known to utter it before.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:38 PM
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2. Who cares if he says he's sorry...?
The only thing he's "sorry" about is the fact that this was exposed to the public.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:41 PM
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6. Exactly!!!
The only thing bush is sorry about is the fact that the pictures got out!!!



Im sorry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .that we got caught!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:39 PM
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3. It's good play.....for 6 months out of the Election.....
People like us notice and repeatedly post and talk about him instead of Kerry for the next day or two...... :think:
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:40 PM
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4. It's meaningless.
Republicans and other torture apologists are looking for any way possible to deflate the scandal.

Like Lott stepped down from majority leader when he said, "this country would be better if negroes didn't have rights." Step down, issue goes way, Lott gets to keep his job.

They're trying the same thing here.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:42 PM
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8. They CAN'T deflate this scandal!!!!
It's only just begun . . .




Im sorry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .that we got caught!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:48 PM
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11. I hope not.
But they're pretty good at deflating scandals.

If the pictures of US troops molesting children ever gets released then I'll agree they'll never be able to deflate it.
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YIMA Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:51 PM
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14. I disagree
Unfortunately this whole story will be old news in a week or two. We're on the verge of summer vacation. Most people don't pay attention to politics during the summer. There's too much other stuff going on w/ the kids out of school, vacations and the like. By the end of this month it won't even be on the table.

Wish I could believe differently, but I've been down this road too many times.

Peace.
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:40 PM
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5. Just got a "CNN Breaking News" Alert
"President Bush says he is sorry for the humiliation suffered by Iraqi prisoners at the hands of U.S. troops."

I think it is insane that I get a breaking news alert because bush* says the "s" word.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:41 PM
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7. It means you were wrong
"Never admit that" is a tenet of them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:44 PM
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9. It takes a leader to say I am sorry
He said it because Rangel is breathing down his neck with
articles of impeachment.... that is the difference.

Kennedy was a leader, Bush is a coward
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:47 PM
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10. Because the media is ready for everyone to "get over it"
Bill Schneider just said that the test of whether this thing continues to hurt Bush is whether the people accept this apology as genuine and are satisfied that the matter is being put to rest.

Then CNN brought their "Arab expert" on to spin how the Arab telelvision networks carried the apology live and how they kept the "Bush says sorry" on the screen during the whole press conference. CNN's obvious message is, "Okay, the Arab people are mollified, it's all okay, move on, move on... ."
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:49 PM
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12. I'm sorry, too, for the humiliation of the Iraqi people-doesn't mean I
take responsibility for it. The Commander In Chief should take responsibility. That was a wussy thing to say that was NOT a real apology.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:50 PM
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13. Wingnuts savaged Clinton for apologizing
Apparently his regrets over such things as slavery severely impugned the manhood of the capitalist system, or something. It wasn't as big a deal as a blowjob in the oval office, but it was something else the Rushes of the world attacked him for.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:53 PM
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15. He said "I was sorry for the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners...*
which is an entirely different statement than I AM sorry. One expresses a feeling one has, which I'm sure we all share, the second takes responsibility and accountability.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml
(From the front page-note that the article inside the link changes the direct quote to PRESENT tense)
President Bush told Jordan's King Abdullah he "was sorry for the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners" by U.S. soldiers. The president also said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld would remain in his Cabinet despite calls for his resignation
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:03 PM
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16. It means he's blown it
He tells his religious screwball base that he's taking orders from god, and his screwball base knows god never makes a mistake, and if he said he's sorry about any of those mistakes, he's saying god made a mistake and ooops....
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:08 PM
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17. It's a big deal because he didn't say it when he was
arab tv yesterday. I guess is only sorry to roayals and not the commoners.
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