Torture versus Abuse! why is it now being called abuse?

[MadashellLynn]

since when is shoving broom sticks and glow lights up behinds and gang banging rapes as well as the rest of the shit they did abuseand not torture? The white house must of sent down an order to the press to only call it abuse. As all of the networks are now calling it abuse.(wtf) I would like to know how many people in the U.S. who wont even go to the Dr. for a colonoscopy wouldn't consider strangers shoving stuff up their ass's consider it torture not abuse. and I am quite sure no Vaseline was provided. next thing they will say is the Iraqi's were horny and the soldiers were just providing release!

[killbotfactory]

1. Oh, it's all normal frat hazing activities...

The prisoners had a good laugh about it afterwards when they were bleeding from their rectums and putting ice packs on their bruises. Well, except for the dead ones... who were joking about it in the afterlife.

[arcane1]

2. because Saddam didn't have "abuse rooms"

see? We are NOTHING like Saddam!!

:crazy:

[LynzM]

3. They are both correct, but 'abuse' isn't as bad on ratings...

tor·ture ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tôrchr)
n.

Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.
An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense.
Something causing severe pain or anguish.


a·buse ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-byz)
tr.v. a·bused, a·bus·ing, a·bus·es
To use wrongly or improperly; misuse: abuse alcohol; abuse a privilege.
To hurt or injure by maltreatment; ill-use.
To force sexual activity on; rape or molest.
To assail with contemptuous, coarse, or insulting words; revile.
Obsolete. To deceive or trick.


IMO, both of these words define what was being done, but torture is much stronger, and more likely to 'upset' people. WTF. We NEED TO BE UPSET ABOUT THIS!!!

[mopaul]

4. i prefer 'softening up', or 'loosening'

torture is such a harsh word

[seabeyond]

5. torture/abuse

depending where i am going what i say torture or abuse. i have been using both and sometimes at the same time. i looked them both up, i was seeing torture more to get info, abuse just general causeing of pain but abuse has simply a maltreatment

abuse- to use wrongly or improperly
to maltreat
to berate or insult

torture- the infliction of severe pain as a means of punishment or coercion

will be more careful which word i use in the future. thanks for the aware

[DrWeird]

6. Don't you have to ask questions for it to be torture?

From the photos, it looks like they were just doing it for fun.

[lectrobyte]

7. the story I got was they were "breaking them down" so they could...

be interrogated later.

[DrWeird]

8. They killed prisoners.

Hard to interrogate somebody when they're dead.

[Cyrano]

9. Torture/Abuse -- Semantics - It came from the White House

When you use terms like "axis of evil," when you say, "you're either with us or against us," when you call Iraqis who are pissed at us "terrorists," when the madman in the White House tells you that God told him what to do, when private contractors are put in charge of "interrogation," what message do you think gets through to those inclined to commit torture/abuse? Put the blame where it belongs.

[joanski01]

10. Rummy said at his press

conference today. It was "abuse", not torture. It was one of his long word-parsing answers. I dunno what the hell he said.

[peacetalksforall]

11. A frat child goes into a hazing knowing what is coming....

a prisoner goes into a prison expecting Geneva conventions.

We did not practice the conventions.

There is frequent talk about the Muslem culture regarding the respect for the body and the disapproval of homosexuality and the importance of self-dignity.

This was torture.

These guards acted with stupidity and contempt and it appears they had to have had an implicit approval from their higher-ups and advisors. The British guards included.

A guest this AM on Wash Journal from Amnesty International said they started hearing about abuses in March of 2003. These naughty kids got away with this for a year without their officers and advisors knowing? Give me a break.

[deacon]

12. it's torture and murder, not abuse n/t

[Skidmore]

13. So do we have any brave congress or senate critters

demanding Rummy's resignation or *'s impeachment yet?