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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:56 PM
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The Mistreatment of Iraqui Prisoners: More Than Six People Involved
Reserve Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, who was responisible for the Abu Ghraib at which photos were taken of Iraqui prisoners being mistreated, points out that one photo shows 32 boots (NBC News).

Karpinski told Deborah Norville on tonight's MSNBC show that military intelligence was in charge of the cellblock where the interrogations took place, and that Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez is paritally to blame, as the chain of command for these interrogations goes up to him.

more at MoveLeft Media:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:06 AM
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1. It's called cover your own ass
and if she succeeds, in rolling the crap upwards, we will see the full extent of this horror
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:17 AM
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2. I believe that there are other people in authority who are more
I believe that there are other people in authority who are more responsible for the torture than she is.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:23 AM
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3. She jsut told you where to look
Lt. General Ricardo Sanches (three star) and Iraqi theater commander...

Now lets see if Sanches starts to face the music, if he does... we may hear that Abizaid was in the know

Given the response from Myers... it goes all the way to the JCS and the Secretary of Defense... and Wolfowitz, who were at that prison at one time or another... we have photos of that as well... take your own conclusions where this ends... after all the only ones above them are the First Prince and our Regent (Chenney)

By the way, didn't we revolt for these kinds of abuses back in '76?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:27 AM
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4. As far as I know, the British didn't
As far as I know, the British didn't strip Americans, put hoods over their heads, and beat them with chairs.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:33 AM
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6. No but they detained people for no reason
kept them in jail for indefenite periods and used the word
traitor to keep us in line

Don't worry some of the abuses of the 18th century could make
your blood run cold

Torture was common to extract info, and the tools of the trade were shown to prisoners before being used... any confesion was sufficient proof... and if the boys would have been found to be conspiring againt king and country, they woudl have been hanged and drawn and quartered.

Why do you think the bar for treason charges are so high in American jurisprudence?

Now what I want to see is justice done... and let the chips fall where they may
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:07 AM
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9. They may just reprimand the officers, so it doesn't go up (nt)
nt
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:58 PM
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11. Hersh said on D Rehm show today - goes to Rumsfeld
and implied to W
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:28 AM
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5. It stinks all the way up to the WH.
Unfortunately, that stink is trickling down faster than a trickling tax cut on the rest of us. Now, in the eyes of the world we wish to liberate, *’s motives are seen and smelled for what they are: bullshit and lies.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:47 AM
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7. Yeah...murder/death/kill....rape...torture...that's ENTERTAINMENT!!
.....that military intelligence was in charge of the cellblock where the interrogations took place...

.....wasn't that *BAD* military intelligence what started this whole thing to begin with? :evilfrown:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 07:03 AM
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8. Rumsfeld and Cheney set up their own intellgence units for
Before the war, Rumsfeld and Cheney set up their own intellgence units to produce evidence of wmd in Iraq.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:49 PM
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10. I was bein' sarcastic......
.....yeah and this whole thing sounds like it's been set up to me too...to produce what...I'm not exactly sure....but somethin' is afoot with this incident...all the photographic evidence just HAPPENS to get into the media?!?! :shrug:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:05 PM
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12. They are stealing your overtime pay this week aren't they?
That is a pretty large heist!
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:20 PM
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13. Ahhh.....blanket media....
.....cover up now ya hear?! Yeah that's a might huge heist indeed!!:evilfrown:

:hi: Hube!! :*
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