So, the command that will take the hit for prisoner abuse is a woman!

[keithyboy]

Watch all those brave, brilliant military men let the woman take the hit!

What CBS aired was really just the tip of the iceberg.
I predict that there will be a military mutiny but it will take the form of some very anti-Republican political actions. Guess who is going to be challenging the military absentee votes this election?!! It won't be the Dems.

[mr_hat]

1. So... You think a man should take the fall for her? >

"No, I insist, Ma'am. Allow me."

Is that what you're suggesting? Poor little gal, the General?

[pinto]

2. She was in charge, on site, apparently. Where it goes (up) from here,

is another matter.

on edit, Add CIA complicity. Bushco likes to have all sides working without the others knowledge. Less trail, deniability, etc. Tenet is seemingly untouchable.

[bobbieinok]

3. yeah - I've wondered about that - sure many mil upset woman

has such a high rank

[FreakinDJ]

7. Look guys I have worked for a retired Female Full bird col.

And she takes a back seat to no man in a man's word.

She was supervising a state funded construction project and dealing with the city council to push her plan threw.

Hate to throw cold water on this angle guys

At the same time I am positive this goes up much higher then her. For 1 she was not actually in charge of that cell block. she was however in charge of the troops that worked there. Who ever was in charge of that cell block also needs to stand right along side her and answer for this

[LittleApple81]

4. I don't think she is ready to take the rap. She comes from

being a consultant in private life, knows the ropes, knows men... and she literally knows where the buried bodies lie.

[whistle]

5. The hit should be taken by ALL persons who are guilty!

...male or female, if they the order to torture, or committed tortures, or stood by and watched as tortures were being committed, they are guilty and must be prosecuted.

[msmcghee]

6. She was in command of the site.

She is responsible - although others above her may be also.

She gave outsourced intelligence operatives access to her prisoners and then said perhaps she should have been more hard nosed about giving them access.

Isn't that one of the great advantages to outsourcing? You can deny that you were in the official loop when the shit hits the fan. In this case she let the the outsourced operatives give orders to her people to "soften up" the prisoners.

She should hang for this and I hope her superiors do too because at the least, they should have made the rules known to her.

Anyone who has ever worked for a large company or organizations knows how this works - knows this is bullshit.

[FreakinDJ]

8. Not entirely

That cell block where the interrogations took place was under the direction of some one else not named as of this time. She was only in command of the troops that worked there

[tabasco]

10. And everybody in between the general and the privates.

Every officer in that chain should go down HARD. NCOs that knew what was going on too.
Investigate the higher ups too. But it's my guess it will only go up to the first general officer. Maybe a 2-star will go down too. There's no question about the rules here. There could be no question by anybody above private E-1 that this was way outside the law.

[FreakinDJ]

11. I am only interested in the CIA and MI personnel that conducted

the interrogations. They were the ones encouraging the torture (clearly stated by Fredriks) and they were the ones in charge of the prisoners

We all seem to forget one thing here. Sure she was in charge of the personnel, but these guys were in charge of the prisoners and the cell block. I would say they are leaving out a big part of the story

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

12. Yeah, I agree...but what about these operatives?

Whats up with that? We outsource intel gathering and interrogation? Since when?

And contractors give orders to uniformed personell? Huh? Thats IS way out of bounds for sure.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Who the heck allowed uniformed personnel

to be under the command of anyone not in the military? Remember how the freepers would go ballistic at the thought of US troops being under the command of NATO or the UN? Now they don't even seem to notice that troops were taking orders from private contractors? WTF?

[FreakinDJ]

15. You got to remember one thing

The Army has the ASA (Army Security Agency) Many of the more successful officers or better said "Operatives" readily accept and are often assigned to the NSA (National Security Agency). Neither of these agencies have their personnel "In uniform" while on Field assignments

[FreakinDJ]

16. I am asking you a question

Which agency refers to it's Field personnel as "Contractors"

[notadmblnd]

9. she's on Debra Norvill now MSNBC

nt

[bobthedrummer]

13. No, I heard her kick it up to Sanchez-she's a fighter!

But most promising of all is the defense for Frederick promise to out the intelligence and mercenaries involved in this-they are directly responsible for murder according to Frederick--NO MORE HIDING BEHIND "NATIONAL SECURITY"!!!!!

A lot of GI's are now being killed or wounded as a result of these spooks running loose. It's always been like that-but there is no more national security to hide behind.

[alcuno]

17. Yup. I heard that. Plus that IT'S THE COVER UP!

They've known about this for months but, in typical BushCo fashion, they kept quiet. Myers hasn't read the report? Why the hell not?

FAUX military analyst said, "This is a disaster" then went on a rant about them knowing about this for months and doing absolutely nothing.

White House Press Corps needs to ask, "How long has the president known about this?"