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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:35 PM
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Give me a link showing that most Democrats are Christians
I'm in an argument now with someone claiming that the Democrats are the anti-Christian party and Kerry would appoint people to his cabinet that would carry out an anti-Christian agenda.
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:36 PM
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1. even if you get your desired stat . . .
I predict that your adversary will say that Christian Democrats are CINO's (Christians In Name Only).
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:40 PM
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2. Here you go
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:44 PM
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4. not sure this helps BB;s argument anyway eom
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:57 PM
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14. I thought he meant by voter
Edited on Sat May-01-04 10:20 PM by wuushew
here is religious affiliation of congress, check second link for party breakdown.

http://www.congresslink.org/CongressProfile.htm



(more data)

107th U.S. Congress, 2000

Catholic 150
Baptist 72
Methodist 65
Presbyterian 49
Episcopalian 41
Jewish 37
"nondenominational" Protestant 29
Lutheran 20
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 16
United Church of Christ 8
None specified 7
Other 41


http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:41 PM
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3. Would anti-Christian agenda be so bad?
The republicans are carrying out a Christian agenda now and look at the mess we are in.
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:44 PM
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5. Then again . . .
the Third Reich was surprisingly secular.

Clarification: I know Hitler was nominally a Christian -- I am still kind of amazed at the secular nature of the Nazis (or Stalinists for that matter).
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:48 PM
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7. Stalin was an atheist so it shouldn't be suprising
and the agenda of the current administration is not truly Christian.
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:50 PM
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9. well,
let's not paint all secular folks with Stalin's broad mustache (dipped in india ink).

Some of my best friends are secular humanists.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:19 PM
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20. Hitler wasn't an atheist
And I get tired of people saying he was. He wasn't a Christian, but he certainly believed in god.

A more detailed argument here:

http://www.taxloss.blogspot.com/2004_04_01_taxloss_arch...
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:25 PM
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22. I added my "clarification" in post #5 . . .
to try to pre-empt your response. I still find it highly telling telling that Leni Riefenstahl made movies much more secular than, say, "The Passions of the Christ."
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:47 PM
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6. Define anti-christian.
According to some of them, it would be someone who will not allow religious power over the country.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:49 PM
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8. Religions in America: 56% Protestant, 28% Catholic, 2% Jewish,
4% Other, and 10% identify with no particular religion. Kerry is a Catholic and the last I heard at mass, we were still a part of Christianity.

You are obviously arguing with an idiot. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.ht...

"Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Gen. Wesley Clark
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:30 PM
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25. Well, the Fundies here told me we're not Christians.
They said that Catholics aren't Christians, they can't be Christians.

I told them we were Christians before being Christian was cool!
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veracity Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:51 PM
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10. What else could most of them be?
The Jewish population of the entire US is around 5 million people...that's one half of one percent of the population... and that includes children. There are not too many more Moslems, Hindus, or atheists. Stands to reason, doesn't it....that most Dems are none of the above? What's left? Sheer logic....
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:56 PM
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12. Jews are 2-3% of the population, not .5%
TIA
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:53 PM
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11.  Just look at the 2000 Exit Poll
Religion....All Gore Bush Nader
Protestant..54% 42% 56% 2%
Catholic....26% 50% 47% 2%
Jewish.......4% 79% 19% 1%
Other........6% 62% 28% 7%
None.........9% 61% 30% 7%

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Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:56 PM
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13. here's a great site
please...did you watch Frontline..Jesus and Bush? Scary stuff with Bush arguing with Billy Graham that only those that recognize Jesus will go to heaven (Graham didn't agree thank goodness)

send this to your "friends" http://www.liberalslikechrist.org
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:59 PM
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15. Dude, you're feeding a troll, but hopefully you realized that already? nt
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Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:09 PM
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16. huh?
Edited on Sat May-01-04 10:11 PM by medeakae
are you talkin to me?

am new here as of an hour...troll? gross!
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Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:13 PM
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19. never mind....
like I said am a new baby..wahh.

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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:27 PM
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23. That depends. Are you LeaningtotheRight_82? nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:11 PM
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17. Would would would would.
Ask them to prove that. At least name the people. Or what they would do to promote an "anti-Christian agenda".
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:13 PM
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18. As an atheist and a Dem, I am only concerned about the separation...
...of church and state, that the government not pursue any religious agenda. I still don't see how that is construed as "anti-Christian," but the right-wing fundamentalists seem to think that they're being persecuted when they aren't allowed to shove their religion down the throats of others. I don't care if people want to worship a stain on the rug as long as they don't try to make the entire nation do it.

The Democratic Party should be about freedom and diversity, not about what religion its members are. I think the fundies are intolerant and wrong, but I also believe they have a right to practice their religion--as long as it doesn't interfere with my rights as a citizen. Trying to paint the Democratic Party with a Christian brush is as useless as trying to paint it with an atheistic brush.

We're Democrats--Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, humanists, etc. I certainly don't want the Democratic Party to become the Christian Party, the Muslim Party or the Atheist Party. The idea is to bring wide-spread tolerance. That's the only way our planet will learn to get along.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:21 PM
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21. Someone who goes to the trouble to inform you they're a Christian
probably is lying. Just watch what they do, and ignore what they say.
I often ask people who make the claim, "so why aren't you a Liberal like Jesus was?"

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 10:28 PM
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24. That's just a GOP talking point. They want to scare the fake christians
into thinking Dems are anti-Christian...don't even respond to it. It is just too stupid.
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