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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:09 PM
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Definition of torture according to the Geneva Convention
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 08:10 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
(for those posters who don't recognize torture when they see it)


Part I
Article 1
For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
This article is without prejudice to any international instrument or national legislation which does or may contain provisions of wider application.


http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cat.html#Article%201.1
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:10 PM
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1. We really shouldn't feed the trolls.
I know it's fun, but we really shouldn't.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:11 PM
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2. I don't consider people to be trolls. Just ill informed and in desperate
need of an eduation.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:14 PM
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4. Any idiot can tell it's torture.
If they deny it they've got some ulterior motive.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:14 PM
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5. Depends on what you feed them!
They need a little jerk on their chain every once in a while! That makes a Jerk on both ends of the chain, but it's still too fun to pass up sometimes! At least we have someone to take a slap at who deserves it!
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:12 PM
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3. it is obvious to me
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 08:13 PM by baldearg
that those that have been identified are guilty of violating the Geneva Convention.

What really bothers me is why are the perpetrators of these CRIMES not being prosecuted? The woman named England gets demoted, not dishonorably discharged and charged with crimes! What happens to her boyfriend? Are they going to merely "demote" him too?

These people need to be thrown out of the military, tried for war crimes and convicted if deemed guilty.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:17 PM
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6. The cops that beat people just get demoted too!
The Reich Wankers are RIPE for the new Hitler we see on our TVs!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:22 PM
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8. Or promoted.
I'm sure somebody who's responsible for this mess is going to end up with a promotion.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:20 PM
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7. I lived through the Vietnam Era.
Tipping-point revulsion, in the largest number of people, was cumulative. Once it reached the tipping point, it was a surprisingly quiet thing. Really sneaky in the way it was just there one day. There was no "one thing", a single point of inflection.

That's what is gonna happen here. As sure as god made little green apples.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:23 PM
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9. I agree. I think it will point back to these pics too
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:28 PM
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10. The Scheisskopf in Chief is in deep doo-doo!
And STILL could care less! Still smirking! Still Stupid! The Viet Nam era was still not this crazy and dangerous! We have now become what we have always deplored in the past! Bush may not have done this but it is happening on his watch! Can NOT be blamed on Clinton!
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:42 PM
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11. Food for Thought: Soldier's Code
SOLDIER'S CODE

I. I am an American soldier - a protector of the greatest nation on earth sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

II. I will treat others with dignity and respect and expect and others to do the same.

III. I will honor my Country, the Army, my unit and my fellow soldiers by living the Army values.

IV. No matter what situation I am in, I will never do anything for pleasure, profit, or personal safety which will disgrace my uniform, my unit, or my Country.

V. Lastly, I am proud of my Country and it's flag. I want to look back and say that I am proud to have served my Country as a soldier.

among other sites:
http://www.forscom.army.mil/fau/Soldier%27s_Stuff/Soldi...

on a wallet card (still in mine after 4 years out)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:44 PM
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12. Thanks. I've never seen that.
Those people disgraced their own damn side.
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:45 PM
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13. Food for Thought: Army Values

Loyalty: Bear true faith and allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, the Army, your unit, and other soldiers.

Duty: Fulfill your obligations.

Respect: Treat people as they should be treated.

Selfless-Service: Put the welfare of the nation, the Army, and your subordinates before your own.

Honor: Live up to all the Army values.

Integrity: Do what's right, legally and morally.

Personal Courage: Face fear, danger, or adversity (Physical or Moral).

among other sites:
http://www.army.mil/111asg/values.html

same wallet card, flip side. bottom line, everybody gets one. they KNOW the difference between right and wrong.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:59 PM
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14. kick
FOr the nightcrew and posters that STILL DON'T GET IT
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:13 PM
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15. Kick for Humanity n/t
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:57 PM
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16. Kick for the ignoramuses that would compare the situation to college
hazing
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