Our Time Is Short Now....

[TNOE]

I'm convinced. Things are heating up way too fast and furious.

Bush* never expected the 9/11 Hearings - he never expected that anyone would not believe the official story, he never expected that they would get caught in their lies, he never expected the truth to get out, they underestimated the Internet, and frankly, most American's intelligence.

They knew they wouldn't get away with invading Syria under the notion that the WMD's were moved there, given all the "crappy inteligence", only the Freepers could possibly believe them. They are desperate, they've run out of time and no doubt they've been on a timetable.

Not trying to be an alarmist - but I think its time we all started thinking outside the box - and count on the worst. I have no doubt they're willing to go all the way this time.

Suspension of Elections
Draft
Suspension of the Constitution and Bill of Rights
Suspension of the Internet
Protest Rally's will bring biochemical terrorism
Possibly Civil War

Now, question is - what can/will we do about it?

[Cleita]

1. I'm sure they will try, but we can't let this happen.

We are going to have to escalate the civil disobedience up a couple of notches until they get good a scared. Bullies are cowards and they can be scared off.

[Tyler Durden]

4. Wrong epithet: not BULLIES; FANATICS.

These clowns are fanatics. They are convinced they are RIGHT, GOD is with them, THEY are in the right, WE are not only WRONG, we are EVIL.

We continue to underestimate these monsters: they will bring everything up to and including ARMEGEDDON if they can get away with it.

I won't stop trying to change things (right up to the minute I leave with my family for Canada) but I no longer believe they can be stopped.

[callous taoboy]

2. TNOE, please help:

You reference "suspension of the internet." I have a long-standing argument with a relative that shutting down the internet for a brief spell immediately after 911 was an idea that was brought up but quickly quashed. Can you verify this? TIA

[TNOE]

6. Wow, wish I could Callous

I hadn't heard this - but of course I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure they have the means to do this and wouldn't hesitate to.

They are going to have to do whatever they have to do to regain control of the masses, once it is lost, which may be alot sooner than they think. Obviously they feel they have no other choice but to go on with their world domination plans - and they aren't going to let anything stop them.

[yella_dawg]

18. Question for network geeks...

Is it possible to "shut down" the internet without massive disruption of phone service, etc? Would that affect satellite internet? I'll concede that specific sites could be axed over time, but wouldn't the economic impact cause hesitation toward implementing a more global shutdown? (if that were possible)

[T Wolf]

3. Paranoia is just another word for

prescience if they really are after you. And I put NOTHING beyond the pukes.

As to what we can/will do - it is up to each individual to do what they can in their own life. That may involve group actions (e.g. protests, etc.) but more effectively will consist of personal, individual acts. We are seeing in Iraq that guerilla actions can succeed against overwhelming force, IF that force is not willing to exceed bounds of decency. I have to hope that Bush* would not actually slaughter mass numbers of Americans, but you never know.

[Tyler Durden]

5. They don't see us as "Fellow Americans":

We are Enemy Combatants, and don't think for one minute that they will hesitate: if they can get troops to SHOOT us, they will do it.

[SheilaT]

7. I, too, fear the worst.

And I constantly think that much of what I do (such as signing an on-line petition supporting equal rights for gays, lesbians, and transgendered people which I did just a few minutes ago) only gives those in power another way of going after me when they take the gloves off. But I do these things anyway.

If the internet can remain -- so long as sites like this one remain in operation, then there's hope.

One thing that has me thinking the worst could happen, is that this Congress has a history of passing sweeping legislation (the Patriot Act) with no debate or discussion. They could as easily pass some kind of tax on websites, or some kind of registration requirements that could shut down places like this.

A draft is surely coming, and probably sooner than later. Most Americans will fall blindly in line behind the Commander in Chief when things get bad. People all too willingly give up their freedoms when they (wrongly) perceive there's a greater good to be had. They're wrong. We should NEVER compromise any of our essential freedoms.

The current government came into power in a coup. People like that do not leave quietly. Even if John Kerry wins the election in November and takes office next January, things are so bad in this country and around the world that he'll find himself supporting the continuation of troops in Iraq and elsewhere, as well as the draft. I believe he's already said he supports the tax cuts in place. He's not going to magically make everything wonderful.

In short, we're fucked no matter what.

[keithyboy]

8. The US will say that Fallujah is a 'targeted' attack and limited BUT

the blowback will strike at every western installation around the globe! How utterly uncivilized, unthinking, uncaring, and craven is this administration?

[OneBlueSky]

9. I've been feeling pretty apprehensive, too . . .

one thing I know deep in my bones is that BushCo is NOT going to allow Kerry or anyone else to win this election . . . they've worked too long and too hard to assume power, and nothing as trivial as an election is going to take it from them . . . I don't know exactly what they'll do or how they'll do it, but I'm betting that the next six months are going to be a very dangerous and disruptive time in this country and in the world . . .

[tom_paine]

10. I concur. If they do that...it's all over

It's on.

They wouldhave to be insane to do that. Of course they are insane and arrogant and monstrous.

Yes, theyu might do that. However, if they DO decide to do that (I am not in your camp vis-a-vis "I think they're ready to go all the way"), then lets' just say they will NEVER capture the prize undamaged.

The Busheviks are certainly ready to be the Nazis to our Jews. The difference is that the Real Nazis (not these "kinder and genlter" Bushevik (w)ussies) already demonstrated to the world what happens when you go quietly along with Evil.

Amerikan "Jews" (which, ironically, includes Arabs and gays and a smaller percentage of Jews than ever before) have therefore LEARNED and WILL NO GO GENTLY INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT.

NOTE to OHS: Better explain that to your Bushevik masetrs before they go for Oktober Surprise #2 -- Dirty Bomb in SF, elections cancelled over Oktober Surprise #1 -- letting Reagan die at a most convenient time for political purposes.

Tell them to stick with #1, boys, or we'll daamge the prize doing to you what the Jews should have done to Grandpa Bush's Nazi Businews Partners back in '36.

[Cleita]

11. As much as everybody talks about leaving like to Canada or

New Zealand. These countries don't take just anyone as immigrants. I wonder if Canada and Mexico would offer political asylum to Americans who can't stay here and fight, like people with draft age children and other refugees.

I think the rest of us are going to have to form an underground to bring these facists down if they pull another election fraud. An underground barter economy will have to be started so that fewer taxes are collected for them to conduct wars with. Unfortunately, we will have to bankrupt them to get rid of them. But that doesn't mean we should bankrupt ourselves.

[dand]

12. Take a deep breath, calm down,

I know these thugs are ruthless, but i don't think they will resort to violence, I doubt they would risk a revolution.

[Minstrel Boy]

13. They risked a revolution in 2000.

What happened? Nuthin'.

What's happened to America since, and how have most Americans responded?

Put nothing past the junta. A three-year psyops campaign to cow an already apolitical populace into submission has worked well. They're mad idealogues, and they've only been emboldened.

[Timefortruth]

16. They wouldn't have to risk revolution.

If most people's life goes on as usual they will think whatever they do is for the greater good.

[TNOE]

14. Very Interesting

I read this book before 9/11 - and found it interesting but farfetched.

The last few mornings I have had a thought in my head that I need to re-read this book because now I can see that they knew what they were talking about - I remember them saying that it might be hard for us to realize at this point - but eventually are Constitution and Bill of Rights will be suspended.... I picked up the book again last night - and just got through the first few chapters - but I feel it is timely to go ahead and post - and I hope those of you who are concerned will read. I believe the whole thing may be posted on the Internet site - however, it is only $6.95.

http://www.highvibrations.org/archive2/hftnp_vol1.htm

[PfcHammer]

15. get a grip. no matter how bad it gets,

there will be no revolution. 2/3 sheeple are
obese and the rest are glued to television.
it will be a passive, quiet "transition."

[graphixtech]

17. grassroot activism is working! NEWS just in --

(our best hope is to double our efforts
at this critical time)


"Upon hearing the news, former Bush I official, Catherine Austin Fitts,
who helped orchestrate a grass-roots lobbying campaign, with the 9/11
Visibility Project, in support of Sibel Edmonds, said that this was a
case in which citizen and press demands for transparency won out over
the strong arm of the Department of Justice and the Courtís effort to
keep all hidden behind closed doors. "Itís a great victory. Donít
underestimate your power," said Fitts."
-- 9-11 Citizens Watch

For Immediate Release
April 27

Public Pressure Forces Judge to Open 9/11 Whistleblower Hearing -- A
Victory for Accountability and Transparency

News and Commentary by Kyle F. Hence ? April 27, 2004

Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds could soon become the thorniest of thorns
in
the side of the most secretive administration in American history.
Whether she does or not depends on whether or not the American public
will stand up and challenge the Department of Justiceís attempt to
quash
the truth, avoid accountability and bury the facts behind lies, double
speak and the National Security trump card.

Edmonds, showing such courage in the face of such stacked decks,
deserves to be supported in her growing campaign to see that her first
amendment rights as an American citizen are honored and that someone is
held accountable at the FBI and elsewhere for the gross negligence or
worse she uncovered as an FBI translator in the months immediately
following the 9/11 attacks. on
Edmonds posted on this site ? www.911citizenswatch.org]

The first victory in this effort occurred yesterday when the U.S.
District Court proceedings previously ësealadí (closed to the public
and
press) were forced open after members of the public and press
confronted
the court and then U.S. Marshals directly challenging the unjustified
and undocumented order for official secrecy regarding the Edmonds case
that morning. The hearing in the courtroom of Bush appointed Judge
Reggie Walton was scheduled to be closed but in an apparent bow to
vocal
objections brought by a former CIA agent, a foreign print journalist,
the author of this account and Edmondsí lawyer, the Judge elected to
open the doors and allow public and press scrutiny of the proceedings.
(more)
http://911citizenswatch.org/

get involved!
911visibility.org
http://www.septembereleventh.org/

[noonwitch]

19. All of that depends on the willingness of the military to fire

On americans in the US. I'm not so sure they'd be willing to. The guys trying to depose Gorbochav thought the Red Army would do so. They were wrong.

[JanMichael]

20. Oh stop that! Every thing is normal, we're gonna win BIG in November!

Happy times will return! The WTO will be reformed! Healthcare, safe Housing and Education, for all! Good jobs for everyone who wishes to work!

It OK!

</pollyannadumbfuck>

[karabekian]

22. keep dreaming buddy

even if kerry gets in that wont happen. Sad but true...

[karabekian]

21. won't happen

no need with that weak exuse of a candidate we all know as kerry...:eyes: