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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:28 PM
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Government - to control, rule, restrain
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 07:43 PM by SuffragetteSal
While on a hike through Champoeg State Park the other day I came upon the birthplace of Oregon government. It was called French Prairie back then. Picture the 1840's...most settlers were French Canadians whom had come here with the Hudson Bay trapping company. Many settled into the land with Indian wives, farming and starting families of their own. Then the white settlers from the east came and decided that government was needed to protect land ownership. The French Canadians were told they needed to protect themselves (as foreigners) and their land from being taken away so a yes vote for government was encouraged. The vote was 52 to 50. In a circle near the Willamette river is a small monument with the names of the men involved. There is also a painting I have seen of two sets of men, separated into two groups, one the French Canadians and Indians and the other the white settlers from the east.

I sat in this spot for quite a while and pondered what it must have been like back then. The fear of being deported to Canada and losing one's home must have been primary in the mind of those trappers. So, it is fear, fear of loss of land and goods that has brought us to this point. Now many wars are started and going on as we speak to protect their assets (oil) and land. Some call it fighting for freedom but is it really? Who is free, those in control, those that hold the power.

It is rather sad to see how we have gotten to this point, realizing what could have been if only....everyone could have lived in peace with one another.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:33 PM
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1. I agree
If only the colonists had tried to learn from the Native societies instead of dominating and controlling them.

Some had "gift-cultures" a wonderful social arrangement, where disputes are fought in battles of generosity!

Some had matriarchal societies.

Who knows what they might have learned from people who lived without poverty, in harmony with nature!

(cue pan flute) :-)

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:44 PM
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2. Gift cultures - generosity
sounds good to me.

P.S. Nice flute.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:53 PM
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4. The Pub Sheep have not a clue as to what they are missing out on
by adhering to the Pub Story.
Because they cannot imagine, fathom, visualize the positiveness, they reject the notion as impossible...such is the power of propaganda.

Oh Well, come, we eat. mo bettah/
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:43 PM
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7. visualize the positiveness
I thought the world would have evolved faster - but I will never give up hope, which is the one thing that we seem to have lost since Bush got selected.
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kaos Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:50 PM
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3. Government - to control, rule, restrain
All of the above........
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No Mandate Here. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:58 PM
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5. One of many very magic places
in the Willamette Valley, especially this time of year with the cool dry sky.

Thanks for your reflection. I have seen the monument, but not thought as well as you.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:02 PM
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6. thanks ABB
Champoeg is one of my favorite places to visit...I appreciate your reply. Nice to meet you.
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