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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:18 PM
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two GIs dead five wounded in boat attack
That's the latest from FAUX. Which means it's probably a higher casualty count than even that.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:19 PM
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1. How many does that make today? 17 dead? n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:20 PM
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2. is this the one from the Basra oil terminal?
All I have seen is that the "oil is safe"... bastards... :grr:
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:23 PM
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3. But the Haifa pipeline never gets attacked....
curious, no?
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hellboy Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:31 PM
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5. Are you trying to say that it's an american conspiracy?
Can you back this up with facts or are you just throwing crap against the wall?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:31 PM
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14. How about you take your bias somewhere else....
Where's your evidence to the contrary?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:42 PM
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8. What Haifa pipeline?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:31 PM
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13. What Haifa pipeline.....?
:eyes:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:31 PM
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16. Yeah, that's right, what Haifa pipeline?
What are you trying to say? If you have evidence of the existance of a pipeline from Iraq to Israel then why don't you show it to me?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:04 PM
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17. Here ya go...
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk030418/i22b.shtml

http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=20030417085823208

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,940250,00.h...

http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/2003/04/11/stories/200...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0825-03.htm


And don't doubt for ONE SECOND that this shit is NOT already
working. If the US can hide Israel's nukes and nuclear reactor...it
can sure as hell cover up the pipeline.
Eat it!

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:32 PM
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19. Don't get all pissy
I stand corrected. You and I obviously disagree on the Israel/Palestine issue, but to be honest I really thought that an Iraq-Israel pipeline was just some lie cooked up by the likes of Asad. That's why I didn't believe you. I never thought anyone would have built such a thing, but I never thought all the way back to the British.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:41 PM
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20. I get pissy....
because there are some here, on these forums, who appear to serve
an agenda. You came across as one such poster.

There is much more and all you have to do is some research. I'm not
here to tell you what to believe or what action to take. I am just
trying to do my part, as difficult as it may seem, to impart
knowledge onto others. I cannot make you believe anything...all I can
do is show you the way and let YOU make the final choice.

That being said, I'd like to state that yes, you and I DO disgree
when it comes to the Israeli/Palestinian issue BUT I think that you
and I have the same common goal: human LIFE and DIGNITY for both.

Just remember...violence begets violence...and unless its stopped, it
will continue.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:30 PM
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4. Is the oil safe? n/t
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:39 PM
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7. Cool!
"Is our oils safe?"

180
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:32 PM
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6. the oil terminal has been shut down, says FAUX
the story is still developing
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:45 PM
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9. New tactics
I would have been doing this a long time ago, but they are attacking on so many fronts now we'll be chasing our tail trying to catch up. In the meantime the military gets weaker and weaker from all the tail chasing.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:52 PM
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10. boat attack?
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:12 PM
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12. Yes, check out "Latest Breaking."
Boat attacks on both the Basra terminal, which is shut down but may not have been damaged, and an off-shore well on the Iran/Iraq border. Very little info on the latter.

It's a very bad day in Iraq. Usually I bear up pretty well, but the clear escalation of naval attacks has really gotten to me today. My father and one of my uncles were in the Navy in WWII, and I do have a certain soft spot for that branch of the service.

The only song going through my head is the old Vietnam song,

One, two, three, what are we fighting for . . .

Well, today I'd say it's Oil.
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DU Jimbo Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:09 PM
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11. Darn insurgents!
When are they going to stop hating us for our freedoms?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:41 PM
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15. I'm not yet convinced they were sailors.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 05:36 PM by VolcanoJen
Reuters refers to the two killed as the "coalition boarding team," and MSNBC did just report that they were American.

Sounds to me like they were contractors, not sailors.

ON EDIT: ABC World News Tonight referred to them as "US Sailors." I stand corrected.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:42 PM
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21. They could have been boarding teams....
the Navy and the CG conduct "board and search" operations on a daily
basis in the Persian Gulf.
Either way...I think this whole story is just plain "strange".
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:25 PM
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18. Stories seem to differ on the events
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From the WASHINTON TIMES

Basra, , Apr. 24 (UPI) -- So-called suicide speedboats were used to attack Iraq's two main oil export terminals in the southern city of Basra, ABC News reported Saturday.

British officials said a boat exploded alongside a ship tied up at Basra's offshore oil terminals.

A coalition vessel then intercepted a second boat near the exclusion zone around the terminals.

Another explosion occurred soon after the intercepted boat was boarded.
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From BBC News

"Two American sailors were killed and five were injured when their vessel tried to intercept one of the boats."

/snip/

An eight-man coalition interception team was approaching one of the boats when it exploded, flipping the coalition boat and killing two crew members, said the US navy's Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet.

Five crew were also injured, said a spokeswoman.

The two other boats apparently exploded some minutes later.
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So the one article indicates that one boat made it right up to the oil rigs,

While the second article indicates that none of the boats reached the rigs.

Also, it doesn't seem to indicate whether the other boats exploded on their own, or were shot out of the water.

I suppose we'll never know the "real" story?

oh well, almost getting used to this game of "clue"

(sigh)
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