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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:19 PM
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Koppel *SLAMS* Bush on "coffin" issue
Ted's closing thought tonight was a beautiful, particularly strong uppercut to Bush's cowardly chin....

    "There is nothing inherently wrong with showing the American public pictures of our war dead coming home. It's the context... HOW those pictures are used... that's important.

    "Sometimes, even the people who make the rules miss the point.

    "There's certainly nothing wrong, for example, about showing the picture of a dead, New York fireman being carried up from Ground Zero on a flag-draped stretcher... unless, of course, you put that picture... in a political campaign ad."

    (...silence... as that scene from the ad is played, followed by the endorsement, spoken by *: "I'm George W Bush, and I approve this message.")


Wow.

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:20 PM
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1. Alright!
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:20 PM
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2. WOW!!
i hate i missed that! incredible!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:21 PM
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3. Now that's what I call a Slam Dunk
Pow right in the kisser :D
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:22 PM
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4. Wow...
I think I heard Karl Rove say "SHIT!" all the way from here!

Brilliant
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:22 PM
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5. wow no way
that is interesting huh. good for him
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:22 PM
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6. That was poetic justice.....thanks TED!
:thumbsup:
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:23 PM
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7. OUCH! I love that kind of one-two journalistic punch. GO Ted!
eom
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NMLobo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:27 PM
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10. HOLY CRAP TED!
As Howard Cosell used to say....."Telling it like it is".
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:26 PM
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8. Setting the stage for the Republican National Convention in NYC on 9/11/04
Firefighters, wear your gear.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:27 PM
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9. DAMN!
Wow...... surprised that Koppel went there. It's definitely poetic justice, however.
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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:27 PM
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11. It was awesome!
Thanks Ted!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:27 PM
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12. It was great....wish he would point out these truths more often!
Most of the time he seems to wimp out....
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:34 PM
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13. moveon.org
You have your next ad, courtesy of Ted Koppel. No coffins need appear. You are too sensitive to the feelings of families of the deceased to do that. Unlike President Bush.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:40 PM
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15. Yes!
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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:50 PM
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19. Hell yes!!!!! Shine the light on these hypocrites!!!!
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:39 PM
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14. That was so great I was finally proud of our News media
Yes, Finally Our news media is getting the message. Yes go for it...And he wasn't belligerent like the other guys are......very subtle lead up and slam dunk.........swish....and in it goes....so perfert with the end....being George Bush and I approve of this ad...
yes.....george you set yourself up....

You are so right other poster...... Moveon.org needs to use this as a new ad........to show our inconsiderate president.......with no heart........


Yeah....... I was so glad to watch that....


Maybe oh maybe we can really take back this country.... I have been feeling like I need to move to another country before we are back in the dark ages.....

This was the highlight of my day.....so professional....so well done...... finalllllllllllyyyyyy
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:42 PM
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16. kick
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:42 PM
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17. kick
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:50 AM
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27. Finally - they notice the hypocrisy
I'd love to see them add in the Bush speech from Ohio in Jan of 2002 when he said he would not exploit the tragedy of 9/11 for political purposes! That would be the proverbial icing on the cake!

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:43 PM
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18. Perfect, absolutely perfect!
Way to go, Ted!!! :yourock:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:00 AM
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20. There's only so much that the mainstream media can do for Bush
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 12:07 AM by rocknation
despite the favorable legislation and tax breaks that their parent companies received. They realize that even the sheeple will start tuning out if the mainstream media begin to look as non-credible and non-competent as Bush does. And if Kerry wins, his wrath may result in media conglomerate "reforms."

P.S. Remember when Peter Jennings asked Wes Clark if Kerry should be supporting someone (Michael Moore) who would call Bush a deserter, a "reckless" accusation that was "not supported by the facts"? Overnight, the whispers about AWOL became a mainstream media headline! Mission accomplished--NOT, Karl Rove!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 12:22 AM
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21. Ted better get ready for an onslaught of hate mail from the right wingers!
"Oh boo hoo, leave our president alone!"
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:23 AM
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22. Nightline Been Kicking Ass Lately
nice for a change...
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 01:38 AM
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23. Awesome
I wish I had video of that on file.

Throughout this whole day, as I've been pointing friends to the gallery of coffin images and discussing it with them and going over it myself, my anger just increases. The cynicism of this administration knows no bounds. I'm glad Nightline highlighted one small aspect of it. I can only hope this helps to turn the tide.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:15 PM
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42. Hi fishwax!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 02:50 AM
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24. I could not have put that more perfeclty
Koppel hit a grand slam with that one. Oh if Death can get Votes for Bush and the GOP then by golly lets plaster it on our ads and why not just have a Yippie for 9/11 GOP convention in NYC to squeeze the last drop of blood of the victims for votes. But if you want to see something that may damage the GOP and Bush its cencored..Go figure
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 04:50 AM
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25. It was TERRIFIC!!
Ted Koppel...thank you! :thumbsup:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 05:04 AM
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26. sounds like an "ad" to me




I'm George W Bush, and I approved this carnage......
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:51 AM
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29. Gotta tell you, Radfringe, you've got the best caption
to a photo of * I've seen a long time.

:thumbsup:

gave me a good start to a very busy Saturday.


Tansy Gold, who was once told there is no rest for the wicked and the righteous don't need it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:09 AM
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:42 PM
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55. those two soldiers, smoothing out the wrinkles on the flag drapped coffins
have a tough, but honorable, job. I can imagine the psychological effect on them.

the picture makes me cry.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:59 AM
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28. Our own DUer NNNOLHI had pointed this out yesterday. Is Koppel a DUer?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:51 AM
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30. kick. n/t
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:21 PM
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31. Anyone have a screen cap of the scene in Bush's ad?
It clearly illustrates Bush's hypocrisy.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:38 PM
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34. here ya go!


courtesy of trumad from an earlier post today
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:32 PM
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38. Thanks!
It will probably get me banned (again) on FR but it will be worth it to just get their panties in a twist.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:14 PM
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48. Diapers, not panties.
Freepers suffer from arrested development.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:01 PM
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57. Thanks, Trumad and Nostamj!


:headbang:
rocknation
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:07 PM
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58. ack! I didn't do anything but
repost the pic from trumad's thread when someone asked for it.

but, I got a toon thread you'll just love!

;-)
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:23 PM
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32. now the service and media trying to debunk these pictures as astronauts
Incredible how far they will go to no honor the war dead. They have now said these photos are of the astronauts..... maybe some....but what about the cargo planes full.....there were only 7 astronauts..

They are making themselves look foolish and secretive again. And the news media are crazy enough to print that incredible BS........go figure........
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:26 PM
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33. Wish I'd seen that! Way to go TED!
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:38 PM
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35. Too bad it wasn't primetime
that really would have been something.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 03:46 PM
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36. That was put perfectly!
If people keep this up, they can't do to the people like Ted what they did to the lady who revealed the coffins to us.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:23 PM
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37. Criticism just repeated by "Kevin" on AAR's 'Laura Flanders Show'

Excellent. A caller, "Kevin", just repeated on AAR's 'Laura Flanders Show' Ted and NNN0LHI's comparison of Bush's misuse of FDNY fallen imagery in his campaign ads to respectful display of the recent Iraq photos.

Laura just came back from commercial and is going on about it again..!
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:34 PM
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39. That is about as powerful a hit as Koppel has thrown and
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 07:35 PM by 9215
it was a doozy!!

:toast: to Ted for pulling no punches!!


PS: But actually DU'er NNNOLHI (Don) was the first up the other day with this Bushieboy duplicity.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:44 AM
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41. Don's the Man!
And so is Koppel. Way to go, guys.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:32 PM
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43. Thank you, Mr. Koppel!!
Keep on pounding those facist slimeballs.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:47 PM
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44. Video of Ted's "Closing Thoughts" from Friday
I've posted a (Windows Media format, 9MB) video of the entire "Closing Thoughts" segment to my website, here:

    (just right-click over the image, and "Save Target as...")




Screenshot courtesy CBS News, trumad, nostamj and Paint Shop Pro.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:50 PM
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45. have you sent this to
Randi Rhodes, Al Franken or anyone else at AirAmerica

I could see them using the audio...
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:57 PM
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46. No, but that's a good idea.
I'll split the audio out as a separate stream, and allow whoever to do whatever they want with it. (More likely to be successful if several people send it.)

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:10 PM
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47. email addresses
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:34 PM
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53. Delivery failures
FYI...



It appears to have made it thru to "Unfiltered" and to the other address I'm aware of, 'my2cents', plus David Sirota's "Progress Report":
I just went back and resubmitted it through AAR's web form.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:44 PM
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56. hmmm.....
I've used all of those before and never got an error... in fact, I send stuff to Franken and Rhodes quite often.

sorry.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:45 PM
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59. Oh, no prob; mailboxes are probably just full
(I could even see Freepers intentionally filling up the AAR mailboxes, in an attempt to impede the process of separating the wheat from the chaff.)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:01 PM
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49. Audio clip
Here's just the audio (1MB, mp3); right-click here, and "Save Target As..."

Video above, at this post
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:03 PM
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50. great. downloading now
will send it off to AA soon.

thanks for your work!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:03 PM
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51. oops! DU double_dip dupe
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 03:04 PM by nostamj
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:11 PM
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52. Poetic justice!
thanks
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 03:40 PM
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54. PLEASE
send this to Ted, or if Ted IS a DU'r

Ted, have a look at this Flash Movie, "MURDER BY NUMBERS" -- it's mentions ALL the latest Presidents that have attended funerals caused by their own failings..

it's a real SLAM on Bush,

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/murderby.html

pass it around, this needs to be seen and shoved where the sun don't shine in the White House.

GO TED!
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