Even the Freepers understand Woodward is big trouble

[NJmaverick]

Look at this thread, even the freepers can see bush is in big trouble now. This interview showed bush is crazy and has committed impeachable crimes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120060/posts

[name not needed]

1. They're suprised?

This is the same Bob Woodward that kept Watergate alive, right? What do they expect?

[fearnobush]

2. Nice work Nomad1776.

To: jwalsh07
No, the damning thing was that we let Bandar see the war plans, and that we made a deal with Bandar to manipulate the oil markets vis a vis the November elections.

This better be untrue, or the President is in trouble. The american people will not tolerate the Saudis meddling in our affairs

[prodigal_green]

3. I couldn't watch the interview--I'm at work

But from what I've gathered so far, Woodward played tapes of Chimpy himself, yes? Was the October Surprise one of the tapes?

Mmmmm...October Surprise (Homer Simpson).

[RoyGBiv]

Tapes

He played the tapes for the 60 Minutes producers so they could verify that what he was saying was said was actually said. (Weird sentence, that.)

Unless I missed it, they didn't play them on the show.

[alittlelark]

4. Damn...they've got their collective panties in a wad!!

Cognitive dissonance.............

[Kahuna]

5. My favorite post from that thread...

To: Pukin Dog
I just think we don't need this sh*t right now. Bush's reelection campaign has enough crap to overcome--we don't need this. We have 4 books out there saying Bush is a no good SOB (worse than Nixon) O'Neil, Woodward, Clarke (all owned by Viacom) and John Dean's book too. There is an overwhelming group of powerful forces out to screw Bush and elect Kerry--it's getting very dicey!!

49 posted on 04/18/2004 4:51:09 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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[0007]

21. Yeah, wait till Michael Moore's 911 Fahrenheit hits 'em in the chops

They're beginning to see the hand writing on the wall.

junior is nuts!

[skooooo]

47. What's Moore's book supposed to be about??

I agree with most of Moore's politics, but honestly, I think his personality and style kind of suck.

[K8-EEE]

56. It's A Movie -- RE: Bush & Saudi Families, With War Footage Too...

He has guys taping what is really going on in Iraq -- and how Bush is more loyal to the Saudis than to the rest of us.

THIS WILL BE GOOOOD!!

[JohnyCanuck]

58. It's a film not a book

My understanding is it will examine the close business relationships between the Bush family and Saudi movers and shakers like the bin Ladens.

[K8-EEE]

61. Freeps Are Comforted By "Pukin' Dog!!!"

This cracks me up they are like, oh Pukin' Dog, you are so wise! You make me feel so much better, oh bump Pukin' Dog!

PUKIN' DOG????

PUKIN' DOG IS LIKE THE FREEPER SAGE....LOL!

[KoKo]

69. Pukin' Dog used to post on DU until Tombstoned. What a jerk he/she

was. Assume kept the same revolting name when it went over to FR. A Freeper Sage, now? hmmm...

[lindashaw]

6. This is soooooooooooo great!

[Penndems]

7. I'd love to see the expression on their faces when they

find out that both Bob Woodward and Mike Wallace are Republicans.
Anybody whose ever read "All the President's Men" or seen the move knows that. Mike Wallace has stated publicly in interviews that he leads towards the GOP. (It's also a well-known fact in Washington political and journalistic circles.)

[OKNancy]

10. Just curious

but is it common knowledge that Woodward is a Republican? Is there some source for this belief. I've never read one way or the other.

[Penndems]

12. It's in the book "All the President's Men"

Also in the movie. If you've either read the book or seen the movie, he point-blank states that he's a Republican.

Towards the end of my tenure in the U.S. Government, I worked with the Washington press corps. It's well known that Mike Wallace is a GOP-er (but not of the right-wing variety).

[OKNancy]

17. Thanks

I've seen the movie three or four times and read the book many years ago. Guess it just didn't register.

[Penndems]

20. Yeah, there's a scene about halfway through the movie

depicting an interview Woodward and Bernstein conducted with Hugh Sloan (portrayed by Stephen Collins). Collins says "I've always considered myself a loyal Republican" (or words to that effect), and Woodward replies, "Me, too."

[salin]

42. I have heard that about Woodward for years... indeed there

may be references to it in All the President's Men. It is how he got access to various insiders to even begin to start to smell a story in Watergate. It would also explain his immediate closeness to this particular administration - in the sense that the insiders (lower in the chain) in the Nixon (and then Ford) White Hosue - have risen to prominance - many now in the Bush white house. In that sense he has long-standing relationships with many of these folks.

Had NEVER heard that, however, about Mike Wallace, in fact I believe I had heard the opposite about Wallace (that he leans left.)

[Penndems]

63. Trust me, he's GOP

Not a right-winger, though. He's too intelligent for that.

[aquart]

8. But they think Watergate is a made up story? A myth?

[NJmaverick]

9. No one ever said Freepers

Had a strong grip on reality. In their world a Republican can do no wrong.

[Penndems]

25. At the very least, those "people" belong in a mental institution

At the most, they should be in Club Fed. That site should've been shut down when The Washington Post filed suit against them a few years back; then they'd start whining, bitching and screaming about First Amendment rights.

It wouldn't surprise me one iota if some of these nut bars aren't behind the threats former Assistant Attorney General Jamie Gorelick has been receiving (How intelligent: Threating a former Assistant AG -- talk about being on a fast track for admission to a Federal penitentiary). The FBI must be having a field day with them.

Just my two cents.

(Edited for additions)

[Penndems]

30. They thought that back in 1974, too

To right-wingers, Watergate is just a botched-up third (or fourth)-rate burglary.

(Edited for addition)

[tridim]

11. Some are saying that...

"Nobody watches 60 minutes anyway, so don't worry!". Do they realize how utterly insane statements like that make them sound? Not many people will see this truth, so it wont hurt their glorious leader? They're the definition of pathetic.

[vetwife]

15. Insiders to rid us...It always take someone on the inside to get to truth

Clarke was a repug.....It doesn't matter as long as the truth is out there !

[amandabeech]

60. Lots of older people watch it., and they vote in every election.

If I recall correctly, they were not as gung-ho about the Iraq war because they know that folks get killed in them. Many remember WWII, Korea and Vietnam. They will be appalled at the prospect that Bush was conniving with a foreign power to influence the election.

We must watch all sites reporting on oil production from now on in. If there's any hint of Saudis raising output, we must blitz the media and our politicians about it. That is if the Saudis can really up their production much. It is a controversial issue in the oil world.

[leftistagitator]

13. Shudder

Just check out these posts. With enemies like this, I know my side is just.


Why communist subversives are allowed to eat, drink, breathe: live, with the rest of America is beyond me...

45 posted on 04/18/2004 4:48:50 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution

During the REAL America Civil War, Woodward and all around him, even the ones that hang around him only in the dark (wink, wink) will be among the first to go in the decapitation strikes...

73 posted on 04/18/2004 4:58:06 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution

he is using rhetoric that suggests the Articles of Impeachment should be prepared
That will provoke civil war. It will divided the country so thouroughly that it will never again be the same. It will also mean I'll be moving south of the Mason Dixon line a bit earlier than I anticipated.

37 posted on 04/18/2004 4:45:29 PM PDT by jwalsh07

[leftistagitator]

19. More pearls of wisdom

See-BS can't even generate 10 million viewers for 60 minutes these days, which only adds up to about 4 to 5 % of the population. I also cannot recall going in to work on Monday and hearing everyone chattering over who or what 60 Minutes had on. In fact, very few people even know or care that 60 minutes broadcasts anymore. Now ask most men about the NBA, NASCAR or the PGA and you'll be buisy in conversation for as long as you can stand it.

As far as the likes of these leftist authors who are writing all these books, their combined readers don't equal one days audience of Emeril's happy chef show.

The majority of voters or TV viewers are evenly spread over 500 channels of viewing frenzy these days. The general public is getting sick and tired of all the demagoguery coming from the left and the 911 Commission drone is putting anyone who cares to sleep or sending them outside to go fishing, camping or golfing.

The President's numbers are very steady among polls that aren't stacked or slanted to the left, and the general public is even more suspicious of the media than ever before.

To put it simply, stop the hyper-ventillating and the sky-is-falling rant so the less informed FReepers on this forum can have a better day.

124 posted on 04/18/2004 5:26:49 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

this one is especially funny, them watching us watch them

Democratic Underground is running a thread about this thread. They just LOVE you - you make them think that this Woodward crap is important.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

149 posted on 04/18/2004 5:39:53 PM PDT by redlipstick

[belle]

64. this is getting way too recursive.

[Mari333]

14. Who cares what they think, the troops spit on people like them

They dont have kids in this insane war, they dont give a whit about the troops, they dont care who dies. They are not worth even mentioning on the DU boards.
Not worth my spit while Michael stands in Baghdad. He hates people like them, and he spits on the people at Free Republic too. Armchair warmongers, insane assholes.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com

[0007]

16. I love to hear 'em whine -

At least some of them are smart enough to know that junior is looking like a piece of burnt soggy toast.

[atre]

18. The amazing thing...

The amazing thing is that they're upset at the Bush Administration for giving him access; not for doing what they've done.

[sspiderjohn]

23. Yep -- they seem mad at GWB getting caught, not his wrongdoing.

Damn -- these clowns have no morals whatsoever, do they?

[napi21]

26. Yes, I recognized that too!

I read all the posts on the Pug link from above. NOBODY was shocked by what BushCo did, just that they got caught!

I must admit, I was enjoying the thought of what all this is going to do to them, but I was also shocked at someof the actions being revealed!

I'm ashamed of Americas leaders, and that's a VERY sad thing to have to say!

[DemoTex]

22. Pitiful little people, those Freepers.

Some appear to be nearly as insane as their un-elected, AWOL hero.

[NJmaverick]

29. They are starting to turn on each other

If this wasn't about such a deadly serious topic as a corrupt crazy regime, I would be LMAO

[Skittles]

44. you know it, nomad

I would find the whole thing highly entertaining if I was not aware of the price being paid by people in America and Iraq and around the world.

[Paradise]

24. thanks nomad1776! n/t

[NJmaverick]

27. It was my pleasure (Also to Fearnobush)

Clearly this is BIG really big. There were Freepers that seem to actually be upset by what was revealed and desperately want it to be proven untrue. Woodward may actually sink another evil republican president.

[Paradise]

28. Speaking for myself,

if this 'crew' were Democrats, I'd be feeling the same, and these freepers just don't get it!

[Gman]

31. Surprisingly, this is the ONLY thread over there about Woodward

tonight. It doesn't have 300 posts which only indicates moderate at best interest there.

I think the freepers have their fingers in their ears and are singing "LA, LA, LA, LAAAAAAAAAAAAA, LAAAAAAAAAAA, LAAAAAAAA" as loud as they can tonight.

[onehandle]

32. worried freeps

verrry worried freeps
______________________

His first book was flattering to the president. My guess is that the Prez thought this one would be as well.

...the damning thing was that we let Bandar see the war plans, and that we made a deal with Bandar to manipulate the oil markets vis a vis the November elections.

This better be untrue, or the President is in trouble. The american people will not tolerate the Saudis meddling in our affairs.

That is what I find most upsetting. GWB keeps things close to the vest, so I suspect it's anonymous sources who are embellishing this. The media is eating this up and lest anyone miss 60 Minutes, Woodward will appear on The Today Show and Hardball tomorrow (that I've heard thus far).

The narrative he has is damaging--he has buttressed the "Bush is a God nut", "Bush is Cheney's puppet" and "a reckless cowboy." Woodward has mentioned a couple of times that the "Constitution doesn't say that..." he is using rhetoric that suggests the Articles of Impeachment should be prepared.

All things being equal, I wish Woodward was never close enough to be able to write this book.

Bush's poll numbers are going down. The media smear campaign has been very successful. And it's only April.

...every day another shoe drops. The anti-Bush campaign is operating on all cynliders and the pro-Bush campaign is stalling out. This is getting dispiriting.

Respectfully, we DO need this shit right now. Now is better than October. Why would you think that THIS overwhelming group of powerful forces out to screw Bush is any worse than THE LAST GROUP of powerful forces out to screw Bush?

Hey, you don't get it. When people do inexplicably stupid self mutilating acts like the Bushies have done-- I am left shaking my head!! Sue me, for being appropriately alarmed when people I have so much invested in do no-brainer stuff.

Mid-April is important. The constant drumbeat "Bush-knew-he's-after-oil-no-wmd-Cheney's-puppet" is powerful. The repetition of it is seriously damaging.

Unfortunately, the GOP apparatus is content to go gentle into that Goodnight. We have no 527s, we have a lousy communication apparatus, and the New Tone suicide strategy is still in operation. I am in awe! Anybody who cares about Dubya's relection should be sufficiently concerned about the trends.

Democratic Underground is running a thread about this thread. They just LOVE you - you make them think that this Woodward crap is important.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Well it looks like FR is going to joke about this too ! I for one am very pi$$ed about this ! The Democrats have been handed one huge gift with this book!! Woodward has it all documented and recorded. The Democrats will have to use a "spit cup" with this one !(The drool has already started ) A real gift to them.
________________________________

and on and on and on and on and on........

[progressivebydesign]

37. This "anti-Bush campaign".

That was priceless. Don't they see it is his own actions and non-actions that have caused the problems? It's a classic narcisssitic, rightwing attitude... every time something bad is reported about the GOP or Bush, they scream about the messenger... they can't really refute this stuff. I love hearing them attack the news agencies if they say anything truthfully unflattering to the emperor. The saddest thing about these goobers, is that they are probably living paycheck to paycheck, barely scraping by, yet they are supporting the very people that have doomed them to a life of poverty and ignorance.

[Skittles]

46. "pro-Bush campaign is stalling out"

Lordy.

[CatWoman]

48. a message to this guy

Democratic Underground is running a thread about this thread. They just LOVE you - you make them think that this Woodward crap is important.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... ...

Well it looks like FR is going to joke about this too ! I for one am very pi$$ed about this ! The Democrats have been handed one huge gift with this book!! Woodward has it all documented and recorded. The Democrats will have to use a "spit cup" with this one !(The drool has already started ) A real gift to them.

HAWhaw

[Shopaholic]

33. This is my favorite--it's priceless

What many people on this thread don't realize is that there are many people that will be affected by Woodward's tales. I'm not, but I understand that they can be damaging. Some people are so divorced from reality that they don't get that everyone isn't exposed to the information they are. Imagine a person who doesn't listen to talk radio, doesn't go on FR, doesn't go to Drudge and doesn't get Fox News in their hometown. How do they process this Woodward interview and book?

Yeah, just imagine that. Why--they might just figure out what we've known all along-the emperor has no clothes!

[GreenPartyVoter]

34. *lol*

Yeah, imagine someone who listens to AAR and Pacifica, goes to Common Dreams and DU, and watches the BBC and CNN... what might they think of this book and interview?

[PartyPooper]

39. ROFLMAO! It just proves who *OWNS* the U.S. media, doesn't it?

[JohnyCanuck]

53. has no clothes and tiny little weeny too. n/t

n/t

[K8-EEE]

55. omg!! imagine THAT! And, More A-Prayin' Fer Shrubbie

God...imagine somebody thinking FoxNews is actually news...IMAGINE!

Get this one:

I thought these scriptures would be of help. God is watching and He is seeing all the injustices these EVIL RATS are casting upon Mr. Bush! Trust in the arm of the Lord! He will give Rove and Mr. Bush wisdom to battle these DEMONS who are out to KILL, and DESTROY him. Woodward better watch out!

Jeremiah 11:20 - But, O LORD of hosts, who judgest righteously, who triest the heart and the mind, let me see thy vengeance upon them, for to thee have I committed my cause.

Jeremiah 15:15 - O LORD, thou knowest; remember me and visit me, and take vengeance for me on my persecutors. In thy forbearance take me not away; know that for thy sake I bear reproach.

HE WILL GIVE ROVE AND MR. BUSH WISDOM..??? he sure hasn't yet...LOL!

[belle]

66. They're real big on the vengeance and smiting quotes, aren't they?

At least you figure they ought to know what it means when you tell them that Bush is reaping the whirlwind right now.

[belle]

65. I hate to say it, but...

That one, along with a number of others over there, sounds like a troll. I could be wrong.


then again, they're all trolling over here, too, so, hey.

[LDS Jock]

68. Timeless

Divorced from reality..... doesn't go to FR, Drudge, and watch Fox news. LOLOLOL..... THAT IS HOW YOU GET DIVORCED FROM REALITY!!!

[progressivebydesign]

35. OMG.. they are so delusional and pathetic!

Where do I begin? NOW they say Woodward is a liberal mouthpiece? What happened to all the love from his last book? 60 Minutes is a liberal mouthpiece? Really? Corporate whore news companies are now liberal mouthpieces? Hmmm... I think the funniest thing about these morans, is that they are damning themselves by being pissed that Woodward got the info... They know that Bush is cooked.. and they're blaming the messenger! They seem very scared.. very very scared. I was waiting for them to really attack Powell, which they will, but I couldn't stomach much more of their drivel. Oh.. the uneducated, unwashed masses.. if ONLY we had some balance in D.C., then we'd see a REAL impeachment trial! Bush and Cheney fucked up big time.

[warrior1]

38. the one that said this

"Bush-knew-he's-after-oil-no-wmd-Cheney's-puppet"

about 'bushknewandpeopledied"

[Skittles]

43. they are so stupid, Caliphoto

they parrot whatever their dittomasters are saying. All freepers together could not come up with an original thought.

[skooooo]

49. BWAHAHAAHAHAHHAA Woodward is a genius...

He beat them at their own game!

LOL

[proud patriot]

36. 200 plus posts to that freeper thread .. *no they aren't worried at all*

ROFLMAO

[DaveSZ]

41. The problem is our Dem leadership is so spineless

People like Daschle and Lieberman are considered Democratic representatives.

[skooooo]

50. add Evan Bayh... little punk republican-in-disguise

from Indiana. He makes me sick.

[ComerPerro]

40. And guess who FReepers are set up to blame

Powell.

No one else's fault. To them, its all Powell.

Gee. What a suprise.

[skooooo]

45. here's a good one...

"To: jwalsh07
No, the damning thing was that we let Bandar see the war plans, and that we made a deal with Bandar to manipulate the oil markets vis a vis the November elections.

This better be untrue, or the President is in trouble. The american people will not tolerate the Saudis meddling in our affairs."

[rumguy]

51. yep, if that's true it is over for *

[skooooo]

52. Another startling revelation from Freeper land....

that is true - this WH has no media strategy, no war room, etc. They rely on Rush and Hannity to do that for them.

111 posted on 04/18/2004 5:18:16 PM PDT by oceanview

[Cat Atomic]

54. So strange- it seems like they're not concerned with

whether or not the book is accurate, only that it's damaging to the cult leader.

That's just so odd... they put their party before the country, before the truth, even before themselves. If Kerry did half of what Bush has done, I'd be rooting for impeachment.

[K8-EEE]

57. Cult Is Right -- They're Like Moonies!!

They act like Bush can never be wrong about ANYTHING....bizarre belief about anybody, but SHRUB? God the guy is obviously as dumb as a rock!

[belle]

67. Obvious Daddy issues.

[seabeyond]

59. and no one has issue with bush breaking law

they are bummed he let him have access, that he got caught, non that he did it. that is sad. at least when clinton said i did not have sexual relations with that woman, i look at husband and said blow job, oh man...........why did he say that. i at least let him own getting himself in trouble. didnt think impeachable, but clinton got to own it

these people, nah, no problem

and they are our morality patrol

[K8-EEE]

62. Well, it's not like oral sex was involved....

or anything IMPORTANT...just mass murder and treason, that's all...