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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:40 PM
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How bad (or good) do you think the Woodward interview on 60 Minutes
was for bush* & co.

I think it was devastating. Made bush* look like a stupid fundy with this head up cheney's ass.
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bushalert Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:41 PM
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1. It was scary
If true - it seems as if Bush is truly insane and needs to be removed from office ASAP. He is a fucking fanatic!
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:43 PM
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2. Final Nail in his Fucking Coffin
I pray.

Who could have listened to that and not come away thinking Bush and company are fucking Hitler and his SS???

Mission from God - holy shit.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:00 PM
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24. Amen.
I hope the almighty really does drop down out of the sky and bitch-slaps his dumb-ass back to Crawford, where he can't do any more harm.

Except the trees around his 'ranch'.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:43 PM
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3. that and
ALL of 'em are fuckin' traitors working for the Saudis..Cheney, Rummy, Shrub....TRAITORS!

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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:51 PM
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15. I tuned in on the part where they were showing the "No Foreigners" war
plan to the Saudi. Wouldn't that be treason???
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:43 PM
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4. They're running the government like a mafia organization.
The thing about oil prices and letting Bandar in on the war plan really got me.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:44 PM
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5. I don't own a TV.
Does anyone know where I can see this online?
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:59 PM
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22. There's an excerpt
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 08:06 PM by dralston
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/60minutes/mai...

And a transcript.

On Edit: typo - what the heck's wrong with my fingers! :(
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:44 PM
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6. Sounds like Bush* is a religious nutcase. The part about BushSr
not being the right father was bizarre. The recent letter from Racicot (other posts) that states a "global crusade" is not going to help.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:45 PM
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7. Congress and the senate should be calling for the removal of this
madman immediately.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:45 PM
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8. To borrow a phrase, it was a "slam dunk."
Meaning, no sane person will vote for the chimp. And, by "sane," I mean non-end-of-days bible-thumping fundie.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:05 PM
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28. Very appropriate application of a phrase! n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:45 PM
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9. I hope it rattles some heads in Congress. WAKE UP!!!!!!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:46 PM
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10. The promise by Saudis to lower the cost of oil (gasoline)
just before the '04 elections should be interesting as the media tries to hide it. I look for the Dems to use that point.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:46 PM
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11. Disgusting piece of "Whore Media/Woodward excuse for Journalism!"
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 07:46 PM by KoKo01
Chimp doesn't even have the "depth of intellect" (my words) that Woodward uses in his quotes. Chimp doesn't "DO" Reflective Thinking.

He probably can't remember when Laura's Birthday is much less to be Woodward's "exclusive source for this book where he "supposedly" quotes the Chimp using words that aren't in his puny brain or vocabulary!

YUKKKK! again...WHITE WASH!
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:48 PM
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13. Are you insane?
That's a figure of speech, by the way--not a personal attack on your sanity :). This was an incredibly damning interview. The Saudi price fixing scheme and the extra-congressional Iraq appropriation alone are enough to send him back to Crawford come November.
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Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:55 PM
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18. Right on-Koko must have watched some other show
I thought it was very damning. I almost fell off my chair over the Saudi price fixing scheme-I hadn't heard anything about that yet. It also crossed my mind that Bush's close relationship with the Saudis may make some people wonder, since the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. The average person probably has never heard about this before.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:00 PM
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23. Remember the "redacted" document?
The one with all the Saudi involvement taken out? That might come back to haunt them.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:53 PM
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17. I will have to see the interview - but the book excerpts I have read
all seem to point the finger at everyone but bush.

Bush declaring that the intel brought to him by Tenet wasn't good enough (is this all that you've got?!) ... then questioning if there really was a strong case (as if he was going to back track from the war if it wasn't?) Didn't ring true to anything we have heard/read of bush from insiders (that he hates policy, that he doesn't allow opposing views, that he is bored with details, etc.)

Will have to see and read to hear if a different tone comes forward.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:19 PM
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33. it came off making Cheney and Tenet looking bad as far as corruption
goes. What Woodward recounted made Bush seem innocent of direct criminal behavior - but it completely painted Bush as being overly influenced by his religious zealotry - at one point Wallace asked, who was Bush getting his advice from, and Wallace pointed upwards as if to God, and Woodward seemed to agree with that.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:47 PM
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37. exactly
Bush the innocent, the god-fearing regular guy. He'll get yet another pass. It's not his fault, it's not his responsibility ... Nauseating.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:51 AM
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39. Not Bush the innocent god fearing guy - Bush the religious Nut!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:08 PM
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30. KoKo -- I mean you no harm
but I don't get you.

I've seen you in a couple threads trashing this "gift" that Woodward has given us.

What's up with you?

You want to denigrade the whole interview cause Woodward said kind things about *?

Even when speaking with kindness, I found that interview devastating to *.

Devastating.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:46 PM
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12. Didn't See It Yet But Check Out The Freeps...
They're big question is WHY DID BUSH EVER TALK TO WOODWARD...

Only one of them seems to be concerned about what Woodward is SAYING only that it is KNOWN is the problem. Wackos!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120060/posts
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:50 PM
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14. Prince Bandar was SHOWN the war plans before Powell was even TOLD
holy shit!

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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:53 PM
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16. How can anyone support him????
Bush is hoping that Joe Sixpack doesn't watch 60 Minutes.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:56 PM
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19. unfortunately i have to differ with the views posted
for the masses of americans, this book, and this interview, paints george bush as a man with a higher calling.

he was portrayed as concerned, at times to the point of tears, with the decisions he was making.

this is what the anti-intellectual, anti-elite want to hear. this is what they signed on for, and they will love it.

i wondered how bob woodward could write a negative 'expose' of the bush whitehouse after he had had his nose up bush's ass for three years, describing him as being so "presidential", and other crap.

i now see what he is doing. he wanted to write a book, with a little of the reality in it, but in a way that bush would like, approve, and clear for printing. plus make a lot of money.

and that is exactly what he did.

you notice he didn't mention "f**k saddam, he's going down!"

the 'intellectuals' will see the few outrageous points that were made, and try to point them out. but the unwashed masses will love what they hear, and want more of it.

woodward has successfully played both sides. he is a true whore. this book is to combat all the other books out now that are bashing bush. this is payoff for all those years of access.

and woodward is saying bush wasn't pushing iraq until two months after 9-11? i thought bush was pushing iraq within weeks of his being sworn into office.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:02 PM
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26. I always thought that Woodward was trying to protect Bush from charges
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 08:04 PM by keithyboy
that he came into office with an invasion of Iraq on his mind. Not even Woodward's book will convince me otherwise, especially since the PNACers make up his inner circle and the evidence is out there that they wanted Iraq invaded as early as 1997.

As far as showing Bush to be a man with a 'calling' most maniacs feel they have a calling. Just ask Charles Manson.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:04 PM
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27. excellent...that was my take too.
This was a favor to Bush, I think.

The heat is now more on Cheney, Powell, Tenent, etc.....Bush comes across as you said:.."higher calling".
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:43 PM
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34. I agree - Woodward sells Bush as thoughtful, relying on God and Staff
A cover-up that is meant to start the "values" campaign for Rove.

You know a whore like Woodward was not about to mess with the meal ticket.

Rove wanted the 700 million out now so he could say we did nothing about Reagan's similar treason so we should drop this.

And do you really want Saudi oil influence to keep prices down exchanged for a war hero that is into right and wrong?

I know how our media will sell it. I know how Rove will sell it. And I know how our media will not challenge the way Rove sells it.

Woodward remains a GOP whore.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:53 PM
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38. Thank you, thank you, thank you, ldf
you have stated so much better what I tried to say in my post: Spare me, Bob Woodward and got reamed for, mostly.

We hear the damning stuff but without the emphasis and WITH the depiction of Bush "as concerned, at times to the point of tears, with the decisions he was making" and as prayerful,the masses will certainly, blindly, willingly miss the big stuff.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:57 PM
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20. Woodward
To any thinking person (we must be elite), the picture that Woodward painted of George Bush was totally damning, that of a misguided religious zealot. I think Woodward's calm and thoughtful manner of speaking just served to point out Bush's hysteria over Sadam and Iraq.

Did anyone catch the info that, by pre-arrangement, gasoline prices will drop right before the election, to look as if the economy is strong?

I fear the common person in this country is not a thinking person, and they will be dutifully impressed by the picture of Bush as receiving direction from God, but I don't think Woodward was impressed by this, and neither was the 60 Minutes host.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:58 PM
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21. It won't change one ditto-head mind. They are in denial
Will never admit that they were wrong, conded, used, and abused.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:01 PM
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25. I just saw the very last part...Woodward was nice on Bush...
...he seemed to be pinning any screwups on Bushes staff...Tenet, Cheney and Powell (comment on Bush being "skeptical" about a rosey scenario for the postwar).

Bushes fundy wrap about God telling him what to do and he being on some sort of mission might sound a bit "wacky/fundy" to us more agnostic types or mainstream Xtians, but that was a good play for the fundy/evangelical base that supports W.

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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:05 PM
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29. How will history judge a president who says "we'll all be dead"?
"How will history judge you, Mr. President"
"How should I know. We'll all be dead".

This is one of the utterly stupidest and crass statements made by any world leader who ever claimed to make a name for himself in history. What a huge historical joke! If god were really on the side of George W. Bush, they would have found WMDs in Iraq.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:47 PM
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36. that line left me shaking
I don't think I have ever been so mad, or felt so much hatred towards another person in my life after watching that segment. i fear for my family at this point, and i fear for the entire world.

bush needs to go, and not a moment too soon. contacting elected officials tomorrow, this is beyond disgraceful.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:56 AM
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40. very weird
and very scary... Maybe this explains his policies on the environment and the debt, as well. "Who cares? We'll all be dead." Future generations can fend for themselves -- doesn't affect US.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:09 PM
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31. Awesome bad
for Bush.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:13 PM
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32. Not good for Bush
This appears to be a well researched piece and confirms Richard Clarke's key assertion that Bush wanted to invade Iraq immediately after Sept. 11.

I am troubled by Woodward's description of Bush. He does come off as more of a nut case than I thought. It is possible that Bush has really lost it.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:46 PM
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35. Made him look crazy
the god thing will play well with his base but forget about the independents, they will see *ush as dangerous insane.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 09:57 AM
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41. I thought it was very damning. Almost no mention in morning paper.
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fedupwithbush Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 10:05 AM
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42. If nothing happens with this information
we all might as well quit voting. If any sane, intelligent person can look at just 4 of the things and not call for his impeachment I will just give up. I've e-mailed all my congress critters and some news organizations AND called. I've never done that on anything before.

They impeached a president for lying about a sexual tryst.

But we're talking about misappropriation of funds: $700,000,000

Collusion with a foreign government to lower gas prices to influence an election.

Showing plans that are clearly marked NO FOREIGN.

And the still out there charges of outing a CIA agent for purely political gain.

All impeachable offenses, all heinous crimes against the United States.

I'm beside myself. I don't care what political persuasion you are. If you can condone or justify any of this, we are lost. Bush will have his Armageddon and we can sit back and wait for it.

If everyone on this board HASN'T e-mailed and/or called reps/senators/news about it, then this truelly is just another message board full of fluff on the internet that has no meaning.
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