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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:31 AM
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Condi on Face the Nation
First question is on Woodward book.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:33 AM
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1. They didn't tell Powell
"He is talking about a very complex set of discussions......"
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:37 AM
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2. But the Saudi Prince was told?!!?
nt
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:49 AM
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23. W keeps his friends close and his REALLY good frineds closer
Bastahd!
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:05 AM
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47. Condi is proof: a brain is a dangerous thing!
Evil...from whatever source is a dangerous thing.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:37 AM
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3. Do you see the gap in her teeth is gone? She's still lying through them
though. Now she looks like the Easter Bunny. Who the hell is her dentist? He ought to be shot.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:38 AM
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4. She lies poorly.
And may have slipped when she allowed as how Shrub decided to go to war in March 2002 (I believe). Need to check the transcript later.

She's making brutally clear that Powell is a token.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:39 AM
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5. They asked about the 700 M dollars. She is saying Frank has
the authority for the region so he could move the money to Iraq.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:40 AM
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7. It is against the law they tell her.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:41 AM by LittleApple81
The underlying point is that Franks was the commander of an entire region.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:42 AM
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11. Question: why did Frank in March say that he had no orders to
do anything for Iraq?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:43 AM
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16. "General Abizaid is the Commander in Chief...........
This performance is called "out over your skiis". Yikes Condi this is worse than the 9/11 commission performance.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 AM
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17. What is clear that Iraq's stockpiles of weapons have not been
found, but we have found that he had active programs, capability for nuclear weapons.
Bah...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:50 AM
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25. "They have a very difficult job"
Yep as difficult as finding the Loch Ness monster.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:40 AM
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6. "That's against the law!"
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:40 AM by nu_duer
Dayum.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:51 AM
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26. SLAM!
Me thinks we need an investigation.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:41 AM
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8. She just lied about the $700 million
that was diverted from Afghanistan. Bob S. to his credit just pointed out that this is against the law. Condi is claiming that Franks had the power to divert the resources since he was the commander of the whole region. Total BS.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:42 AM
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12. "pervert
uh..per view"
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:45 AM
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42. Underpants . . .
. . . You're cracking me up. First with "This performance is called "out over your skiis"."

And next with "pervert". I'm so glad you caught that. So did I and I was wondering if I was the only one. It will be excised from the transcript. Someone (Wonk) needs to make a video.

TYY
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:50 AM
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44. We just rewatched on our DVR (Tivo like cable box)
That thing RULES!

The "out over the skiis" line actually came from a quote attributed to a "White House source" about something Powell said over a year ago. It was on MSNBC's website and was very quickly scrubbed as many DU'er caught. I can't remember what Powell said or what it was about but I loved that saying.

The "pervert" thing was funny. FCC violation? How about W mentioning "rape rooms" many times during the "family hour" on TV?

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:54 AM
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45. Did you record the end of the program? after Rice I kind of wandered
off, but I think I heard Schieffer implying BushCo is a Totalitarian regime. Did I hear right?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:36 PM
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55. I head that and my thought was wondering if they use people's perversions
to make them carry out orders for the BFEE. And perhaps they even CREATE those perversions.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:43 AM
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14. "Tommy did it."
She will probably come to rue many of her cop-outs this am.

Bwaahahahahah!

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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 AM
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19. She didn't lie. the whole region - "middle east and afghanistan"
She admitted it. Just so we're clear - Afghanistan is in southeast Asia, not the middle east.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:46 AM
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52. Uh, no, not SE Asia
Southeast Asia is globally understood to be the region where Vietnam, Cambodia, Myanmar, Thailand, etc., are. Afghanistan is, if anything, Central Asia.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:18 PM
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54. Fine. It's still not in the ME.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:39 PM
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60. Debateable
It's immediately east of Iran, which certainly is the Middle East.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 AM
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20. She wafted back and forth in time on that one
Some of the answer pertained to before the Iraq war and some was since. That made NO sense.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:41 AM
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9. She thinks she's still in front of the 9/11 commission...filibustering
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 09:42 AM by linazelle
And very rude to boot.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:41 AM
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10. Condi's whole interview is supposed to be about Woodward's book
60 Minutes tonight is going to feature Bob Woodward and Condi's appearance on FTN is supposed to be her "rebuttal".

Ger the lying bitch on the record so the (future) Iraq Commission has amo for questions.

Spin, spin, spin.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:48 AM
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21. She directly tried to rebut one reference from the book.......
then she said she hadn't read the book and wouldn't respond to each charge...... :eyes:
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:42 AM
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13. Argh, I did a double take! She is on This Week right now, I got
confused, the questions weren't matching. ;-)
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:43 AM
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15. Charley who??????
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:44 AM
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18. Anything but the truth
Condi has broken the record for lies per minute. It's mind boggling that she can get away with this!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:48 AM
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22. What about that "mushroom cloud" condoliar?! She is full of it -
The commander in chief should be SURE before putting troops in harm's way.

All of this bullshit from this lying criminal is just an attempt to cloud what they told the country and the world - and the troops - in the run up to the invasion.

Its all on tape, you lying *****.

LIES

LIES

LIES

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:49 AM
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24. They let her get away with murder. n/t
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:58 AM
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28. Damn, no followup roundtable dissection of her performance!
Just further flagellation of the Kerry-McCain meme, with flashback footage about their long friendship. That had to be a decision by the suits to not go too hard on the admin. Yet.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:57 AM
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27. Mentioning that Woodward is doing what reporters are supposed to do.
Anchor said: Especially in totalitarian regimes where they want to be the only source of information.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:59 AM
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29. the word is out I think: BUSHCO IS A TOTALITARIAN REGIME! n/t
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 10:17 AM by LittleApple81
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Pyrogen Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:12 AM
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30. I dunno. I sense a little racism here.
We finally get an intelligent woman of color into a very high position, then we totally trash her because her ideology doesn't match our ideal. Do we REALLY want blacks and women to rise to the top or do they have to be the 'right' black or the 'right' woman?
Or do we truly care if a black or woman succeeds at all?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:14 AM
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31. I don't care if you are white, black, yellow, green or pointy eared.
I care if you really have the good of the country instead of the PNAC agenda on your mind.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:01 AM
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46. Bingo!
It's precisely that Condi is an intelligent, educated person that makes her lies so obscene. She knows better.

The suggestion that she can't possibly be the lying sack of shit because she's an African American woman is what's racist.

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:16 AM
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32. "We" did not get her in.
But we will get her out!

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:17 AM
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33. what??? there's no racism in those posts.
maybe a bit of gentle ribbing to the "dentally challenged"

What are you trying to do with that post?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:26 AM
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34. That is a RW talking point from a few weeks ago
It drips with irony.

Ann Coulter spewed it first on Hannity's show, Novack said it on Crossfire, Rush and Hannity repeated it on the following Monday.

They ran that up the flag pole and no one saluted so they brought it back down but apparently our NEW DU'er (2 posts) still thinks it sells. Sorry no takers.
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Pyrogen Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:41 AM
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39. RW? I heard the idea of race and Condi brought up in here
People were saying Bush was racist for trotting out a black woman to take the heat for him. I just think it can cut both ways. Blacks and women have struggled so hard to achieve high positions, I just don't like to see them sliced and diced on a personal basis. It just isn't right.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:46 PM
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57. That makes no sense at all.
I don't think illogical GOP talking points have a place on DU.

Are you saying that no black female in a high position should ever be criticized?
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:49 AM
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43. Yep. I smell something trollish....
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:28 AM
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36. Quick! Change the subject! Play the "race card!"
Do something! Anything! To keep the American people from figuring out that this entire administration is a pack of liars. I can hear Dick now, "Let's put Condi out there. Then anyone who criticizes can be called a racist. Teeheehee."

It's not Condi. It's the whole lot of them. You're right. We shouldn't criticize her, we should get rid of them ALL! Rummy, *, Dick, Ashcroft, Powell, Rice, etc. They are all incompetent, lying, thugs who have caused the deaths of thousands. Boot them all out.
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Pyrogen Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:44 AM
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40. Like it's never been done before
I ain't the first one to point out the race irony in this, Skippy.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:33 AM
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48. Are you kidding? It's done all the time.
What's laughable is BushCo executing the same plan over and over again and expecting different results. I'll say it again, I have NEVER before seen such an incompetent bunch of hacks in all my days. Grown-ups my ass. They are all a big joke on the American public and have failed to take responsibility for anything. I have never seen the like and hopefully after January of next year, I never will again.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:32 AM
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38. Go back and tell your friends that Condi is a serial liar.
Makes no difference if she is black or white, pink or yellow.

She is a liar. And a bad one at that.
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:40 AM
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50. Articulate? Maybe. Intelligent? Dubious.
: /
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:46 AM
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51. Are you saying an intelligent black woman cannot lie or deceive ?
Or that her color makes her "right"? Or that we want her to rise to the top no matter how much she lies or what her ideology? Now that is racism !
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falcon Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:16 PM
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53. condi
I dislike her because she is a fucking liar and a criminal. That has nothing to do with color.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:43 PM
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56. How dare you accuse us of racism!
I have never met one Democrat in my life who is a racist. Most black are Democrats. NOT ONE black member of Congress is a Republican.

I could go on and on but I get the feeling you are just going to keep on repeating the GOP talking point that criticism of Condi is racist. There isn't a scintilla of truth to that.

Democrats have faults but virtually NONE of us are racist.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:56 PM
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59. Racism?!?!?? Is that you Johnny?? Worked for O.J. though....nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:29 PM
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kevinhnc Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:28 AM
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35. Every day I believe more and more
Every day I believe more and more that the media is watching and waiting, and will destroy Bush before the election.

Why do I believe this? They are still trying to make him look like he has a chance of winning in November.

Think about it...what good would it do to report an expose and cause the entire country to turn against him? I would not put it past the Repugnants to put his head on a chopping block and conjure up an entirely different nominee for November! (If they do, you can believe that something involving terrorism will be their reason)

The media are waiting until after the convention, that's all. I mean, what intelligent American, including the media, can't see what * is doing to America? I can't wait until the morning after the republican convention when I wake up and the crap is hitting the fan. I might actually take that day off of work to enjoy the fireworks :)

Just a hunch...
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:30 AM
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37. Hope springs eternal. n/t
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:44 AM
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41. terrorist attack
someone said she said there would be another attack before Nov elections.did she actually say this and what does she know.is bush going to let this happen so he can cancel elections...
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:35 AM
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49. is it just me or
does anyone else see her looking over like someone is directing her what to say or something to that effect...she has looked over to the right 3 or 4 times now...that's odd...
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 12:47 PM
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58. Facey on Con the Nation
Sorry, couldn't help it.
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