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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:18 AM
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Denial of Moussaoui FISA Warrant: The Smoking Gun?
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 04:35 AM by TruthIsAll
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According to The Wall Street Journal, the FBI did not tell the White House about Moussaoui until after Sept. 11.

But it is a safe bet that the CIA's Tenet did. Even before learning about Moussaoui, Tenet's President's Daily Brief of Aug. 6 bore the title 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.' When analysts working in Tenet's Counterterrorist Center were warned about Moussaoui a few weeks before Sept. 11, it is inconceivable that they would not have told Tenet. He is, by law, 'the principal advisor to the president for intelligence matters related to national security,' and is entitled to 'all intelligence related to the national security, which is collected by any department, agency or other entity of the United States.'

Tenet's people learned about Moussaoui in a back-door message from the FBI Field Office in Minneapolis enlisting the CIA's help in obtaining information on Moussaoui from French intelligence. The French promptly pointed out Moussaoui's affiliations with radical fundamentalist groups and Osama bin Laden. (The French service had been keeping close tabs on the likes of Moussaoui, having foiled a plan by Algerian terrorists to crash an airplane into the Eiffel Tower in 1994.)<29>

This was not news to anybody who had read the Rowley Memo, but it really was newsworthy, because it came from someone closely associated with the Agency. And McGovern has been generous with his political capital on more recent occasions; he spoke at the 9/11/03 second anniversary events in New York, and though he concentrated his fire on the Neocons' Iraq fiasco, the event at which he spoke (the panel, the agenda, the literature in the lobby, the subjects of the other talks, even the date of the event) was entirely focused on 9/11.<30> Even if Mr. McGovern had adjusted his tie and quietly recited the alphabet, there would still be heavy symbolism in the sight of an ex-CIA analyst seated on a dias with Mike Ruppert, John Judge, Kyle Hence, and Cynthia McKinney.<31> The sight of McGovern on the stage was more significant than anything he was at liberty to say.
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National Security versus Civil Liberties, page 1... in federal civilian courts, as is Moussaoui, a French ... was challenged by the secret FISA court itself. ... had denied only one government warrant application and ...
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:29 AM
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1. I see you can't sleep either!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:34 AM
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2. yes, this is a smoking gun
and I'm sure there will be more to come...just don't know if it'll be in my lifetime. :(
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:41 AM
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3. Well you know that damn wall that separates our intelligence services.....
....and keeps them from sharing information! :evilgrin:
Filing a FISA warrant is EASY, the hard part is getting a judge to issue one, isn't it? :shrug:
I mean I hear that all the time on CNN. They wouldn't misrepresent something that important now would they? :eyes:

</sarcasm>

Thanks again TIA! Bookmarked.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:08 AM
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4. Another TruthIsAll thread saved and available off-line!
Thanks-great job!
:hi:
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:42 AM
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5. My Sunday Morning Kick to bring down the fictitious Ashcroft "wall"
TIA
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:46 AM
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6. Randi Rhodes DEBUNKED the "Wall" pretty thoroughly.
She researched (which most of our "press" does not do) and found that 0 (zero) FISA requests have ever been refused. And that Ashcroft has had more of them (over 1000, I think) approved.
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