Is Osama on the U.S. payroll?

[mopaul]

seems awfully odd indeed that he should release another one of his greatest hits, one day after bush's disastrous press conference.
the 'experts' insist, it really is Osama on the tape, and he threatens the whole of Europe with violence or benevolence. he wants all euro nations who've sent soldiers to Iraq to remove them, or face terror attacks.

how con-veeeeeeeeeeenient. we all know the bush and bin ladens families have a decades long relationship. we know the c.i.a. trained him to fight, supplied him with the arms he needed, gave him millions, and that daddybush is a c.i.a. man himself.

everyone always asks, 'when are we going to get Osama?'. he's the guy who attacked us, right? hell, we got Saddam out of a spiderhole, why can't we find Osama? i think i know why.

he works for the u.s. government, plain and simple. they know exactly where he is, and they have no intention of capturing him.
the best we can hope for, is a phony assassination, with a mangled body, and an official story.

and don't forget that Osama is still issuing threats from his hidy holes. cheney has assured us that another attack is imminent, and our man in Afghanistan, is at the ready, to continue the zany festivities. probably around sept. or Oct., as many have conjectured.

[xchrom]

1. yes my tin foil was on for that

it was just too weird that when bush struggles to hold the coalition of the willing{with the help of taxpayer bribes} osama makes them an offer they have to refuse.
mario puzo couldn't have written this better himself.

[NNN0LHI]

2. Osama is dead n/t

[mopaul]

3. that's very possible

and plausible. i've certainly considered it too. anytime the c.i.a. verifies the authenticity of one of osama's tapes, i get instantly suspicious

[Wickerman]

7. It has always seemed in the past that verification took days

not minutes. Some official sounding dude you never heard of would issue a stern warning that "we can't yet verify the voracity of the tape. Test are being co ducted. We have our best agents rerecord, er, analyzing the tape now. We simply can't say, it will be days."

This one gets instant confirmation? :tinfoilhat: At the very least we have had this one and were sitting on it, waiting for when it would be most useful.

Good linkage, Mopaul

[Disturbed]

4. Deep cover

Al Q. doesn't know that Osama is an agent provacotuer.
He is the Buscho ace in the deck. Think about it. 911 was the best thing that has happened to Bushco. The War on Terror is a surefire
method of keeping the American sheep in their pens, docile and fear ridden.

[KeepItReal]

5. He is officially no longer on the CIA's payroll

because his work in Afghanistan vs. the Soviets was done...but it does make you wonder if he's getting "Deferred Compensation" like Mr. Cheney gets from Halliburton.

[moof]

10. not the CIA, the Caryle group &

& the company that the Bin Laden family run.

[DarkSim]

6. They already have Osama nt.

[dusty64]

8. I've been thinking

that for a long time unfortunately. Its sad I think so badly of our government but I do and do not trust anything they say.

[BlueEyedSon]

9. Bin Laden (who's "on the payroll") double-crossed Bush

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1410760

[Beam Me Up]

11. Not "US" but the "Carlyle Group" (or same as), yes.

I recommend EVERYONE stop thinking in terms of "the government" doing things like 9/11--or paying Osama.

Given recent events in Iraq, we've just begun to uncover THE USE OF PRIVATE MILITARY "SECURITY" PERSONNEL.

The question isn't simply who is "paying" Osama, but who "is" Osama, really. Who does he work for? To what extent is what we know about him a media creation--a kind of "myth" that is "useful" at certain times by certain people.

[MrPrax]

12. Good Point...

If you look at the latest diplomatic salvo from OBL ...

1)the guy's is treated more lucidly in the Media than other real politicians like say Kofi or those French or half a dozen moderate Iraqis on the Governing Council or the British Commanders critical of US military policy or the Polish commander who is fuming that the US military didn't bother to co-ordinate or tell any allies about their military attacks...

2) you notice OBL has open a new era of AQ Diplomacy...It isn't the usual 'river of blood' niceities...He is asking that Europe join in a 'coalition' of sorts with It and NOT the US essentially...

3) the US started the lastest escalation in Iraqi violence (unprecedented), began a dangerous path for international law with Sharon (unprecedented), the canned appraisal of AQ operating the 'resistence' in Iraq (widely disputed by anyone with half a brain) and a scary 'national speech' that probably made even his closet allies cringe....

It must be a script...the US is at odds on many front with it's coalition and as such the 'tape' is simply to offset any ally deviance with a built-in condemnation and refutation by mainly the US media...the script worked with th Spanish...why not expand on it
"Us" vs. "Them"...clash of civilizations...freedom lovers vs. freedom haters...quite primitive really

I am having increasing suspicions about this whole AQ thing and NOT just OBL as it's annoited Leader...
It might be everyone has underestimated the Bushite's agenda--they might be contemplating the uncontemplatable...

If you look at it...the world doesn't really need to be convinced...only the US population does need convincing of the potential 'treason' of allies....
Like a draft, this apprenhensive of having allies is necessary for a much larger agenda...