* gets back on message after 'responsibility' gaffe

[nostamj]

[quilp]

1. You have to be grateful for talent like that.

It just says it all.

[diamond14]

2. "Doonsbury" came out of the Vietnam war....fame, money....

and now, it's time for some young person to come with a NEW idea....

with the USA in THREE wars now (Iraq, Afganistan, and Liberia), when will there be any young protest singers, poets, writers, cartoonists and all the other GREAT stuff that should be happening ???

if you look back at the Vietnam war, the protests were fueled by artists of all sort...and I have seen little of that effort from draft age people to stifle this war....for all wars, it is artists who make a difference (think Guernica, Kafka.....), yet now, the artistic effort and leadership is missing from the draftee age people...

[THUNDER HANDS]

3. that's partly because

anything that could be said now would be just a refried rehash of Vietnam-era stuff.

There's not many ways to protest a war or your government. Coming up with new ideas isn't easy.

[nostamj]

4. well, there IS Aaron McGruder....

[diamond14]

6. McGruder is 29 years old !.....(link)

here's a 2001 story, which mentions his age...

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11859

[ewagner]

5. They are out there

Trust me on this one.....

I know a lot of college kids who are just now finding their voice. They are smart and talented and you will see them soon..

btw: during their high scool years, these kids I know didn't give a damn about much. Now, they are awake and pissed. They are becoming true progressives.

[diamond14]

10. they are going to be DRAFTED, and I have seen very little

protests or artistic talent from these draftees....I've been to the big protests in DC, Chicago, and New York...

I actively participate in my local DC area politics, currently working on the necessary efforts to WIN the 2004 elections....I have seen hardly any young draft age people in any effort to prevent war, to stop war, to prevent their own draft...it's just not there for these young people which is why bush* and his minions KNOW they'll be easy pickings for the draft...

it is real true that everything is being done by us old Vietnam-era people...young people are not participating...I think they'll be real surprised to find out that they are drafted and that the U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T Act will definitely prevent them from getting away....

it seems that the main reason lots of protestors gave up now, is because the young draftees just sat on their asses and did nothing...I have heard many old-Vietnam-era activists just give up, because the young draftees don't care...in many ways, their fates are becoming sealed as a result of their inactions...

[Cassandra]

7. During the Vietnam era, it was much easier to scrape by ...

on the modest income of an artist. In this increasingly commercialized country, who can afford to be a protest singer or a poet, particularly when other young people don't consider their product worth paying for.

[diamond14]

11. Idealism is gone....couch-potatoes are IN...it's all about $$$

as you note..do you actually believe that someone has to "afford to be protest singer or poet" ????

that's the exact attitude of this richest generation of young people...overflowing with material wealth, they can't see any societal value to voicing dissent...as you note so sadly, for these young people, it's simply "their product" and it must be paid for...

Creativity is totally stifled by that "it's my product and YOU must pay me" attitude....perhaps that's why some here say that it's too hard to come up with any creative ideas...their greed is getting in the way....

I cannot imagine a Janis Joplin refusing to create music unless someone PAY her for her PRODUCT...or the Chicago Seven refusing to protest because nobody wanted to PAY them for their PRODUCT...or Martin Luther King refusing to speak because nobody PAYED him for his PRODUCT...or Joan Baez refusing to sing because nobody PAID her for her PRODUCT....

Us old-Vietnam-war activists should all quit NOW...seems that young draftees with those attitudes really WANT to be drafted and fight in wars...there's nothing else we can do, if that's their attitudes...the young draftees will come home with their war wounds and work in McDonalds or Walmart and live their chosen fate...

[Terwilliger]

8. Bush's message "I am responsible...so, what happened?"

"Did Dickie Daddy forget to kill a leak?"

[Cha]

9. That's the message that they caused all right.

There wouldn't be that "message" without the bushcabal.