Take Bush at his word. He SAW the FIRST plane hit the WTC! Live on TV!

[TruthIsAll]

Even a dunce could not say this twice unless it were true.
He was WAITING to go into the classroom when he saw it on TV.
He said he SAW it LIVE, he did NOT say he HEARD about it.

He said: "And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot" He could ONLY say this about the FIRST plane. He could NOT be referring to the SECOND plane.

When the SECOND plane hit, EVERYONE in the WORLD KNEW it was NOT pilot error. The SECOND plane hitting the WTC was PROOF of a HIJACKED plane being used as a MISSILE.

For God's sake. This is obvious. Any fourth grader could figure it out. This is NOT rocket science.

He heard about the SECOND plane from Card while sitting in the classroom. He did NOT SEE the SECOND PLANE. He was in the classroom when it happened. Card had to tell him about it while he was reading about goats..

Sure, he was surprised. He did not expect BOTH towers would be hit.

This is proof. If he saw a plane hit the WTC live, it HAD to be the FIRST plane. He could NOT have seen the SECOND. That was physically impossible. He was in the classroom. In the classroom.

Ask the question. Please. Someone. Ask the Question.


As Documented On the White House Web Site, BUSH SAID:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020105-3.html

Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane, or -- anyway, I'm sitting there, listening to the briefing, and Andy Card came and said, "America is under attack."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html

I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it.

[Syrinx]

1. you suppose they had closed-circuit feeds?

Sadly, I'm unable to totally reject that idea.

[TeeYiYi]

5. Yes . . .

I would bet he has closed circuit televisions in his limo. And yes, if he saw the first plane it had to be a closed circuit feed. Sad to ponder, isn't it? I've actually seen footage showing up here and there of the first plane that I've wondered where it came from. :(

TYY

[Beam Me Up]

7. You've seen FOOTAGE??

Other than the footage taken by the French documentarians, what OTHER footage of the actual STRIKE against the first tower have you seen? Please explain!

[Old and In the Way]

14. Wasn't there a film crew of Israeli's that were in NJ filming the

the WTC? I recall that they had a moving van and were detained but released? Maybe they were doing a satelite feed. :shrug:

[Beam Me Up]

23. I know I heard they were "taking pictures"

of one another and it was reported that they seemed to be jubilant and congratulatory. But I don't recall hearing that they were taking videos. I certainly never heard of any of the pictures BECOMING PUBLIC (as, indeed, they OUGHT to be).

[Media_Lies_Daily]

35. They were using a video camera...

<http://www.rense.com/general44/those.htm>

[SemperEadem]

46. I was editing tape that day

and the first tower had already been hit when everyone went live with the destruction---the second plane plowing into the 2nd tower was broadcast live, but not the first...

it wasn't until later that day that video of the first plane flying overhead and into the tower was made available. That much I do remember.

So Bush was lying if he said he saw the first one live on-air---no one in the country saw that live except for folks on the street in New York.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

47. Somebody with access to a closed-circuit TV...

...and a link to a camera near the WTC would have been more than able to claim that they had seen the first plane strike the WTC.

One more thing...nobody else would have seen that closed-circuit feed to the presidential limo but Junior, his closest aides, and the person operating the camera.

"Bush is lying"? About quite a few things, yes...but not about this.

[Karenina]

56. Ok, so he says he saw the first plane hit

Without a thought to "National Security" proceeds into a school to hang out for awhile listening to a kid's story about her pet...
Has a blank look when informed of the SECOND plane...
Ari holds up a cue card instructing him to keep his piehole shut...
Then he gets hustled to AF1 and hightails it "out of harms way."
What did I miss??? :freak:

[mike1963]

34. Some different footage turned up a few months ago. I recall seeing it

on tv someplace. But I can't remember any details, I -think- it may have been shot from the other side of the river...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. I remember seeing the same piece of film.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

33. The footage came from two Frenchmen involved in producing a...

...documentary about New York City firemen. They were nearby the WTC filming when the first plane flew overhead. The camera was moved to follow the plane as it emerged from behind some nearby buildings, and actually filmed the impact of the first plane on the WTC.

As to there being closed-circuit TV aboard the limo, I would definitely bet on that being true. How else could monkey-boy make the statement that he saw the first plane hit? Additionally, he was in the limo on the way to the elementary school when the first building was struck. When asked by reporters at the school if he knew what had happened in New York, he indicated that he was aware and that he would talk about it later.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

32. The presidential limo's onboard communications systems are very good...

...as are the comm systems contained in another vehicle in the entourage. Here are a few hints that would lead one to believe that closed-circuit TV is indeed one of the systems onboard the limo:

<http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/2001/6/cadillac_one/print.phtml>

Excerpt:

"The presidential motorcade includes a special rolling communications center, so the limo need not carry as much communications equipment as Air Force One."

<http://www.curbsite.com/2001/prezlimo/prezlimo.html>

Excerpt:

"The new 2001 Cadillac Limousine is the finest and most technologically advanced vehicle ever constructed. General Motors President and CEO Rick Wagoner said, 'Cadillac is proud to write this latest chapter in American automotive history with the introduction of this new presidential limousine. We are pleased that our historic relationship with the U.S. government and chief executive office will continue into the new millennium.'"


<http://www.steveparker.com/COOLCARS/2001CadillacPresidential.htm>

Excerpt:

"Redundant state-of-the-art communications systems. We do know there are TVs, VCRs and CD players in the rear for the passengers' enjoyment."

...and this from a toy manufacturer...

<http://www.appealingtoys.com/2001-cadillac-deville-presidential-limo-1:24-scale-die-cast-vehicle.html>

Excerpt:

"To maintain national security, it's equipped with state-of-the-art protection and communication systems including the Cadillac Night Vision infrared object detection system."

[Zero Gravitas]

36. but why?

Why would they do that? Even if you accept a fiull blown MIHOP what would be the point of providing Bush with a closed circuit feed of the plane hitting the tower?

[tom_paine]

53. Very possible. And the Busheviks are Bloated and Corrupt enough to do it

Proof is another matter.

But I DID thin at the moment he said it, that Herr Bunnypants* was being truthful.

I noticed it because it was wone of the rare time he has been so EVER.

[thinkingwoman]

55. The smoking gun has been there all along

and we've let them get by with it.

It's not about briefs or secret meetings...it's about the lies out in the open.

He said he saw the first plane. I say we take him at his word and hold him to it.

HOW did you see the FIRST plane hit the tower Mr. President? Where is that film footage now?

[TruthIsAll]

60. Kick

TIA

[OneBlueSky]

2. not only did he say it . . . he said it SEVERAL TIMES . . .

at various speeches and appearances . . . maybe he was just projecting . . . or maybe there's a lot more there that we don't know . . . whatever the real story, it's something that someone should surely ask him about . . . hard for the press to ask these kinds of questions, though, with their noses so firmly wedged in Bush's posterior . . .

[bpilgrim]

3. or maybe he was just reading a script designed to cya

these guys are as political as it comes and it sounds just like rove to write the words that he knew 90% of americans first thought then as well.

:shrug:

peace

[Daisey Mae]

4. He would have to have had a closed feed if he actually

saw it. He gets so much wrong.... Unless he was drunk or high on drugs you would think that he would remember exactly the early events of 9- 11.. I can remember perfectly what I saw and where I was when I saw it...
Something like that does not happen every day.... He couldn't be that inept . Or Could He?

[Beam Me Up]

9. NO! Even HE could NOT be THAT inept. Do not GO there.

Do NOT give him even that SLIVER of an OPPORTUNITY to weasel his slimy, cowardly, treasonous ASS out of this!

HE KNEW and he is creating a "plausable" alibi for his LACK OF ACTION. It's just that HE IS SO STUPID, he doesn't realize that not everyone saw what he saw.

He is a liar and a VERY BAD ONE.

[Old and In the Way]

16. slipped the 1st time, repeated the 2nd time to cya?

I recall the TV in Booker was showing the smoking after-effects of WTC #1 attack. Was this just an embellishment? He seems preety loose with the truth as a matter of course, anyway.

Interesting that the timing was such that he could have been in the limo during the 1st hit...and he's certainly dumb enough to blurt something like that out.

But I suspect he'll just say that he was embellishing on the story, but then you have to wonder why he'd go out of his way to say it was "one bad pilot". Did he forget about "hijacking", "explosives", New York" in the PDB a few weeks earlier?

Or was he seeding the meme that we (the government) was surprised on 9/11? Now that we know there were warnings, the real question is why he would have thought a plane hitting was bad piloting and not the expected Al Qaeda attack.

Certainly, I hope this gets probed during the testimony...I hope that make his answer part of the public record.

[bpilgrim]

25. i believe he was parroting a clever meme

designed to reinforce the SUPRISE ATTACK propaganda but could be plausibly dismissed as just another bush-speak-ism :shrug:

peace

[bywho4who]

6. This tells all

not only did they have CCtv they helped plan it to clear Greenspans name the FBI was going to bring charges on him for fixing gold prices in the market evidence was in computer banks North tower floors 21 22 23 exploded before the tower fell read this long while back as reported by head of security WTC floors 21 22 23 FBI FLOORS



:smoke: :hippie

[Old and In the Way]

19. Now that's interesting.

When I've watched the initial frames of the WTC going down, I've noticed buckling/blowout at about that level. I assumed that, as the structure started to pancake from the top there was energy transferring down the building and that was a weak point at about that level where it just let go.

Makes you wonder...

[rpannier]

8. OM F***ING GOD...

He sees a passenger airliner crash into one of the tallest buildings in the world that is full of people and all the dumbf**k can say is, "Well, there's one terrible pilot."!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How big an idiot is he? My God. Hundreds of people killed instantly, you know hundreds more will be killed and the leader of the free world can only muster, "...there's a terrible pilot." Well, f*** him. Sorry, but of all the stupid, insensitive and moronic things that p.i.a. has said, this to me is the most incomprehensible. I'm furious and outraged.

[Beam Me Up]

10. You SHOULD be OUTRAGED!

We all should be outraged. OUTRAGE is an APPROPRIATE response to CRAVEN INDIFFERENCE (at best). Hell, he wasn't going to let the deaths of hundreds, possibly THOUSANDS of people, ruin HIS photo-op.

WHY NOT? WHY NOT MR pRESIDENT? WHAT WAS SO DAMN IMPORTANT ABOUT GOING ON WITH LOOKING LIKE THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER DAY?

[anarchy1999]

15. I'm just curious and no offense intended. Did you just get here in

the questioning phase? I'm sorry but I would just like to know, where have you been the last couple of years and when did you wake up and why?

[rpannier]

17. To answer

I had never seen anything ever that said, shrubbie saw the first plane crash and said, "Well, there's one terrible pilot." That's the part I find incredibly offensive. I hope I answered your question. (Plus, as I've stated many times, I'm an American working in Korea. So some of this stuff I miss)

[Beam Me Up]

24. links to the precise quotes:

As Documented On the White House Web Site, BUSH SAID:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020105-3.html

Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane, or -- anyway, I'm sitting there, listening to the briefing, and Andy Card came and said, "America is under attack."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html

I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it.

[oedo]

26. are you sure you're on the right way here?

"I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane (had) hit the tower"

As probably most of you, the first thing I saw was a smoking tower on TV. The reporters said there was probably a plane flying in. So I instantly thought a plane hit the tower.
This would be what Bush probably saw on TV: A smoking tower.
I don't know what the reporters on American TV instantly said about that 'accident'. But could it be, that Bush saw the smoking tower, a TV voice said it was a plane and Bush said to himself "What a terrible pilot!"?
When he said later "I saw a plane hit the tower", could it be he actually meant "I saw the tower that was hit by a plane"?

I think you're on the wrong way here.
Anyway, greetings from Germany and keep up the good work.

[Beam Me Up]

27. Does the president of the united states have access

to information and intelligence that you and I do not have? He SAID that he saw the first plane hit. He SAID it TWICE, at least that we know of. Of course he could have mis-spoken or he could be out right lying (as he so often does) or he could be telling the truth, unmindful that others did not see what he saw.

The point is really NOT whether he did or did not see what he says he saw. THE POINT IS HE IS TRYING TO CREATE IN OUR MINDS THE NOTION THAT HE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS HAPPENING. That is false. He had clear warnings, indicated by the now declasified briefing of one month earlier, that a terrorist attack against American landmarks in Washington and New York was a very REAL possibility. He wants us to believe that HE HAD NO IDEA what was happening that day--thus his going on with his routine for the day would make sense.

Don't you get it? HE IS ABOUT TO GO ON WITH HIS DAY AS IF NOTHING UNUSUAL IS HAPPENING. THIS IS HIS ALIBI. By his actions he is saying "I had no idea what was going on." This is the story he is creating for us to believe. It is precisely what he WANTS us to think.

And that is why I am CERTAIN that he KNEW what WAS going ON. Everyone who heard the news stopped what they were doing. Everyone was GLUED to a TV set. I was. Wern't you? Wasn't everyone in this country? But not George W Bush; not the pResident of the United States! HIS ITINERARY of sitting in a classroom of school children was FAR MORE IMPORTANT than the "horrible accident" he ADMITS to being aware of unfolding in New York. He wasn't shocked. He wasn't concerned. He wasn't even INTERESTED, apparently. Even later, after being told by his secretary, Mr. Card, that yet a SECOND plane had hit the WTC and, therefore, "America was under attack," HE CONTINUED TO SIT WITH THE CHILDREEN FOR ANOTHER 15 TO 20 MINUITES. Doing nothing. Nothing.

WHY?

The United States is under attack by unknown assailants using commercial airliners as weapons of mass distruction and the pResident continues to sit in a classroom full of children IN A DISCLOSED AND UNDEFINDED LOCATION ONLY MINUTES FROM AN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT appearing to not have a care in the world.

You don't find anything WRONG with this picture?

This is what his actions say: "I'm as innocent as these little ones here. I have no idea what is going on around me. I'm concerned, of course, but not overly concerned because I don't know what this is about. Dick and Turdblossom told me to just sit here and read with the children. I'm sitting here reading with the childreen and I'll just continue sitting here until someone tells me what to do. That way everyone will know I had nothing to do with any of this. I am totally innocent. Is that camera on?"

[skypilot]

58. Thank you for this post.

For me this is THE thing that Bush should be asked about when he goes before the 9/11 commission. The fact that not a single news outlet in the US reported on this "terrible pilot" story is a little disconcerting.

[DoYouEverWonder]

29. Welcome to DU

:hi:

In regards to Bu$h's statements, if he had only said it once, I would agree with you and give him the benefit of the doubt. However, even after the uproar that occured from the first time he made this ludicrous statement, he continued to repeat this exact story in public.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

38. Junior was on his way to the elementary school when the first plane hit...

...and he told the reporters waiting for him that he was aware of what was happening in New York City and that he would talk about it later.

<http://www.emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-3.htm>

[TruthIsAll]

62. Sounds like a good Repuke spin. It won't wash. He said it twice.

He is just incredibly stupid.

That's why he wears earpieces during press conferences.
That's why he only has scripted press conferences.
That's why he won't testify without Cheney.

[Sterling]

67. That is my theory......

The real outrage is that he was told about the attack before he entered the classroom.

Knowing what we KNOW he knew at the time it is unresonable to assume he really thought it was an accident. In fact his situation room person, a female navy officer has acknowledged that it was known within W's staff on the ground that it was an attack BEFORE they went into the school.

She yes he was probably meaning to say he saw the burning tower but he is STILL A LIAR!!!!!!

[KC]

45. Question

"...I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it."

Whisked off? WHERE is there?

Didn't he go on into the classroom after he supposedly saw the first plane hit the WTC?

I don't call that being "whisked off..."

KC

[skypilot]

54. I love that "whisked off" business.

"Whisked off" is such an urgent sounding phrase. In fact, his being whisked off is exactly what SHOULD have happened but didn't. He didn't have to be "whisked off" to a second graders classroom. He can just WALK there like everyone else.

[bpilgrim]

63. another SOP 'smoking gun'

:shrug:

peace

[madrchsod]

11. was there live tv footage of the

the first tower??? the first version-dec 4- is the big lie cover up-"the tv was obviously on" -that`s covering a lie.

[dogonarug]

12. Covering badly too!

"I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on".

If he was telling the truth he wouldn't hesitate then qualify it.

[GiovanniC]

37. "The TV Was Obviously On"

Yeah, why would he need to mention this? Does he really think that we're sitting there listening to him saying he saw the first plane hit and think, "Man, Bush* sure has good eyesight if he saw the first plane hit the tower in New York... he was clear down in Florida! I wonder if he means he saw it on TV?"

[AntiCoup2K4]

18. There was no *known* live footage of the first plane hitting.

Why would there have been? It was an average Tuesday morning. Who would be aiming a video camera at the World Trade Center at 8:46 in the morning.

As it happens there was the French filmamker who accidentally filmed the crash while he thought he was making a routine documentary about NYC firefighters. But that footage was definitely NOT on TV that morning. CNN did air it, but it was hours after the towers had imploded.

The ONLY way Junior saw that event happen live, from Florida, is with a closed circuit feed, from a camera that was aimed at the target, capturing the crash. And the only reason for that feed to exist would be if they were expecting such an event.

[Hailtothechimp]

71. That's exactly it. We have five or six months to get people to see this..

or the alternative is too ugly to think about.

[Old and In the Way]

20. No live TV on the 1st one. NBC (?) had the camera live on the WTC

for the second. I watched that live. It was surreal. Bryant Gumbel was yammering away and suddenly you see the 2nd plane coming in and go into WTC 2 (the angle was such that it was almost head on but disappeared from the camera lens due to the building obstruction). Gumbel must have been watching the monitor and thought it was a rerun of the 1st crash. What a confusing, horrible moment for live TV.

[notadmblnd]

41. at that particular time

there was no film footage KNOWN to exist of the plane hitting the first tower.

[et in Arcadia ego...]

13. Bush was ordered to keep his mouth shut...

Didn't Ari Fleischer hold up a sign telling Bush not to say anything after Card had informed the idiot of the second hit? If this is true, why the hell is the Press Secretary giving orders to the President of the United States to keep his trap shut? Is this typical behavior for a Press Secretary? Maybe Rove contacted Fleischer with orders to muzzle the stooge. Amazing, on September 11, Bush lost his Constitutional right to freedom of speech.

[Old and In the Way]

21. I can't understand why they allowed videotaping in the classroom.

That was incredibly damaging to Bush's case and, frankly, that is what convinced me that it was scripted. I wonder why the tapes of him sitting there weren't confiscated on "national security" grounds.

[Hailtothechimp]

72. He's no leader if this happened.

Taking orders from that twerp. Unbelievable but surely true.

[jpgray]

22. This could simply be a pathological liar's embellishment

Hard to say.

[bklyncowgirl]

28. I don't know about this one...

As much as I think they know something was going to happpen and would like to prove it, Bush did not actually say that he saw the first plane hit the tower. He could have meant he saw the report. As others have pointed out, there's no known video of the first plane.

What bothers me is that Bush's reaction was very much like my own. My husband was standing a few blocks away from the Trade Center. He saw the flames and called me immediately. At first I thought it might have been some moron daredevil in a small plane shooting the towers. When he called again to say it was an airliner We knew it was a terrorist attack we were also sure it was Middle Easterners, probably Al Queda. When the second plane hit we were certain.

I had an eyewitness outside the Trade Center. Bush had the FBI, private feeds from the NYPD you name it. HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES FOR CHRISSAKES!

Someone has to call him on this.

[el_gato]

30. Yes he did say he saw it hit

read the quotes

[TheBlob]

31. Bush did NOT see the first plane hit the tower while in the school,

because the first plane hit the tower BEFORE Bush got to the school.

The first tower was hit at 8:46.
Bush didn't arrive at the school till ten minutes later.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

40. But, he was either told about the first plane prior to leaving the hotel..

...or he DID actually see it on closed-circuit TV while riding in the presidential limo to the school.

From what I've read, the school was about 30 minutes away from the hotel, and Junior arrived at the school before 9:00am, just prior to the impact of the second plane. That means Junior had to have learned about the first plane WHILE RIDING IN THE LIMO.

[TheBlob]

44. That's fine.

Go for the 'Bush watched on closed-circuit TV in the limo' theory if you want.

I do think he knew of the first plane hitting the WTC just before arriving at the school.

But the idea of Bush watching the first plane crash into the North Tower on a closed circuit TV AT THE SCHOOL is nonsense.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

48. What's ridiculous is your attempt to put words into my post....

...the closed-circuit TV was IN HIS LIMO, not at the school. Where did you get that from?

[TheBlob]

50. Come on. Nobody is putting words into your mouth.

I wasn't even referring to you specifically Re: the TV in the school.

If you want to know where that theory came from you need to look no further than this website. There have been hundreds of posts from people who believe Bush watched the crash from INSIDE THE DAMN SCHOOL.

THAT is the nonsense I was referring to. Nothing else.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

52. Whatever you say.

[Beam Me Up]

59. BUSH SAID HE SAW IT WHILE IN THE SCHOOL:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html

I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it.

I'm not saying he DID see it there--you're right; that would have been impossible because the plane hit BEFORE he arrived at the school. I'm just correcting what you said. He DID say that the saw it as he was waiting to go into the classroom. IF he did see it at all, it would had to have been in the limo.

[goclark]

42. Did anyone ever interview the Teacher or Staff

at the school?

If they were interviewed before they probably were in a state of shock and only remembered what the scum crew told them.

I think it is time for a good reporter to go back and talk to a few people that recall the day. I bet the custodian, principal, teacher,even the students who would now be 4/5 graders by now could bring more light to the events on 9 11.

[Room101]

43. VIDEO of Bush saying he saw the first plane.........................

Bushplane

[Media_Lies_Daily]

49. Nice find...thanks!...

When he stated that he was "sitting outside the classroom", I wonder if he meant that he was still in the limo?

[Az]

51. Myth building

My take on his comment is they were trying to push the image of Bush I Charge. I command of the information and on top of the situation. Confidence building. And confidence is what the Con in Conjob stands for.

LIHOP Answer:

They knew this was the event they were waiting for. They had to take command of the situation and come out strong. The entire purpose was to galvanise the American public into one focused force ready to use its miltary might to strike back and continue striking until the world was remade in an image of Bushco's choosing. Thus they needed George to come out seeming to be on top of the situation. The hero ready to bring the fight to them. He had to go through a set of staged emotions. Concern to anger. It was scripted. They continued to play their game of reality is whatever we say it is. Thus they used the line more than once.

[Gordon25]

57. He knew before he left hotel

I have seen reports (if memory serves it is in Paul Thompson's timeline) that as Bush left his hotel that morning to enter his limo for the drive to the school, a female reporter for ABC radio (who had just been informed via cell phone by her editor in NYC about the first tower) yelled to * asking if he knew about the WTC in New York. * is reported to have responded, "Yes. I'll have a statement about it later," just before entering his limo.

* later claims to have seen it on tv while waiting to enter the class room which was impossible because there was no video of the first tower being hit broadcast until the afternoon of 9/11. He could have seen it hit on closed circuit tv but if so, it was in the hotel, not the limo and not at the school.

More damning, in my view, is that after being informed by Card that the US was under attack, he continued sitting in the classroom for 17 additional minutes before leisurely leaving the school and traveling by motorcade to Air Force 1.

At no time during the twenty-minutes-plus between learning America was under attack and boarding Air Force One, at no time was there any indication of *'s Secret Service detail going into any sort of heightened security mode.

This, even though it had been publicly known for weeks that * was going to be at that school that day at that time.

Despite the fact that two associates of Atta had appeared at the hotel where * was staying early that morning claiming to have an interview appointment with * and were intercepted and turned away by security personnel.

No sudden stir or change of plans, though by this time the Secret Service in the White House is supposedly grabbing Cheney by the arms and physically carrying him to the safe room in the White House basement.

And despite the fact that there had supposedly been "credible threats" made against the White House and Air Force One which forced * into hiding for eight hours, before finally showing up at the same Air Force Base where, coincidentally, several CEO's of companies in the World Trade Centers were attending a charity breakfast at 7:30 a.m. hosted by Warren Buffet, who, coincidentally, owned a white business jet which was identified in proximity to the Flight 77 crash site immediately after the crash.

It beggars belief that Secret Service agents, who have sworn to give their lives if necessary to save the life of the President, would believe the U S to be under attack by forces using aircraft as weapons and yet continue to allow the President to sit in a public, and publicly long-announced, location, wide open to air attack, without at least attempting to move him out. Upsetting the children would not be sufficient reason for them to be so derelict in their duties.

Gordon25

[osaMABUSh]

61. Last night he said he knew it was Al Qaeda as soon as the plane

hit then he corrected himself and said we later learned it was Al Qaeda.

[bpilgrim]

64. that's a good point

but they could always argue time-compression plays havic with memory.
not to mention this is the bushmiester were talk'n bout :shrug:

peace

[Name removed]

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[TruthIsAll]

66. How did he see the second plane hit, when he was seated in the classroom?

You are a total _________ (fill in the blank)

Go back to whatever cesspool you came from.

TRUTH IS ALL.

On Edit: You are the most pathetic ditto-head that has ever posted on DU.

You can't think, you can't write, you can't spell.
Bush would love you.

[bpilgrim]

68. lol

u can't HANDLE the truth OBVIOUSLY

peace

[LSK]

69. he said FIRST building

"Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane, or -- anyway, I'm sitting there, listening to the briefing, and Andy Card came and said, "America is under attack."


Now why would he say FIRST building? PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

[Kool Kitty]

70. You should feel stupid now.

Or should I write it in caps, with all the misspellings intact?

[TruthIsAll]

75. Hey, Name removed, sorry to see you go...

It was short but sweet...

TIA

[Generic Other]

73. Anyone know exactly when B* first made the "saw the plane" comment?

For some reason I can't recall him having made the comment anytime in the days after 9/11. Who did he say this to? When was that CBC video clip filmed? He was doing some sort of campaign fundraising, wasn't he? Was that the first time he publicly shared this anecdote?

We are looking at a boychild in a man's body. Maybe his is a recovered memory" like when kids recall being victims of Satanic abuse. More than once, B* seems to have recalled events that didn't happen and convinced himself they did. Given enough time and distance, his story will grow to include personal acts of heroism, memories of having personally saved the day, and other fantastic fish stories. We keep forgetting to take the low IQ, gullibility, complete lack of abilty to think beyond his own limited experience into account. Notice how everything is transformed to his point of view?--"my" government, "I would move heaven and earth to prevent an attack...bring it on...mission accomplished...me, me, me..." He is the center of attention because he insists on it.

Still, you would expect some paid lackey would have edited the error.

[TruthIsAll]

76. He revealed his guilt in early Dec 2001 and early Jan. 2002.

TIA

[Beam Me Up]

77. the links with dates are in post #26 n/t

[oceanpoetry]

74. I believe the worst about * until proven otherwise...

Would not be surprised if there was some secret footage on CCtv in the limo. It is a creepy thought, but since I subscribe to LIHOP/MIHOP - I also believe it is possible being taped by someone - and he inadvertently disclosed what he saw.

[PfcHammer]

78. we know he didn't read about in a newspaper.

[TruthIsAll]

79. Saturday early show

TIA