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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:34 PM Original message |
The Electoral College is the PRIMARY vehicle used to steal elections... |
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 03:36 PM by TruthIsAll
Without the EC, there would be NO states for Bush to steal...
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GregorStocks (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. By both parties, nonetheless! |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Very informative...I never knew much about the EC |
I'm bookmarking this so that I can learn more. Thank you for all the work you do too. It has to pay off for all of us.
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. You Miss The Point |
I think you confuse the EC with state-run elections. The EC is a separate issue. It's an anti-democratic vote-weighing scheme that gives SOME citizens a bigger vote than others. The vote of a citizen living in Wyoming weighs 3.5X that of a citizen living in California. You can have 100% voter age participation... 100% vote count accuracy... 100% safe voting... any and all voting reforms that you can dream of... and as long as we have an anti-democratic system... especially without a runoff provision, then the vote LOSER can still "WIN". |
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nodictators (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes and No. Look at Florida 2004 and California 2003 |
In Florida, the presidential race is close, according to the polls. With a bit of rigging and Repub-friendly touchscreen machines, it'll probably wind up in the Bush column.
In California 2003, Schwarzenegger probably would have won over both the Davis recall and Bustamante in a clean election. Davis and Bustamante were slaughtered in the media. However, it appears to me that the election was also rigged. Schwarzenegger won over in a landslide over Bustamante with a 1.5 million vote margin, with 9 million ballots cast. The national media has covered up the huge rates of uncounted ballots. In the recall voting, a Yes/No choice, 4.6% of the ballots were uncounted. In the gubenatorial voting, 8.1% of the ballots were uncounted. These high rates are signs of a rigged election. Furthermore, the Dem counties, which had superior demographics in both income and educational attainment, had more than 10% of their ballots uncounted. The Repub counties had about 5.5% uncounted. The lesson here is that huge vote margins can be attained by apparent rigging and media attacks in large-population states like California, and help carry the nation in a non-Electoral College system. |
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