OFFICIAL CONDI LIES THREAD #4

[matcom]

for those on slower connections

[proud patriot]

1. link to thread 3 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1369217&mesg_id=1369217

[matcom]

2. thanks PP

:hi:

[Thrill]

4. WHat did she say

she didn't recall? I missed it.

[proud patriot]

5. You are most welcome

:hi:

[Plaid Adder]

3. Like I was saying,

This is the first time I've gotten to watch the hearings...Ben Veniste was very entertaining, but so far Gorelick gets the gold medal for raking her over the coals without looking like she's beating up on her.

Yee ha,

The Plaid Adder

[blondeatlast]

26. Definitely. That little aside to her aide made Condi VERY nervous...

[drfemoe]

55. She IS Sharp

I heard her on >>
April 7, 2004
NPR's Melissa Block talks with Jamie Gorelick, former deputy attorney general in the Clinton Administration and one of the members of the Sept. 11 commission, about Condoleezza Rice's upcoming testimony before the commission and the wrapping up of its investigation.
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1828945

Tapes of all the hearings >>
http://www.npr.org/911hearings/

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. Who will be called up by the Commission to refute Condi's testimony?

Or will they skip right to, "The end. Case closed"?

[maddezmom]

8. they should invite Tenet and Clarke back to discuss the 8/6n PDB

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. But will they do it?

[maddezmom]

21. let's hope so

never thought I'd see Condiliar under oath either spinning her lies.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

18. Yup....She's directing her own testimony, too...

Interjecting her own points, half answering questions. These guys are rolling over for her. The fix is in.

[maddezmom]

7. Gorelick: will follow up in a private session

wonder if that will be under oath? Anyone know?

[RoundRockD]

12. Who thinks all the "Pundits" will say that she did great and that Bush

is great and Clinton and Clarke are bad.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

i do

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

i do

[sadiesworld]

13. No, she can't be called under oath again.

:puke:

[MegaDave]

14. not from what I have heard

the buck stops anywhere but with this admin

that is the line that she is taking right now, same old bullshit, different person spewing it

[sadiesworld]

9. Nap time.

[Plaid Adder]

10. She sounds worse than she looks.

I've been watching on TV and now shifted to radio. On radio you can really hear how nervous she is. Her face seems to be better trained.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[Stephanie]

27. Watch the head shaking

When she's lying she shakes her head NO. She has no control over it.

[sniffa]

15. "I regret Andy Berger's tesitmony"

what the heLL did that mean?

[noonwitch]

34. I'm not watching, but didn't Sandy Berger previously testify that

Clinton and company had a plan to deal with al Queda after the Cole bombing, but it involved invading Afganistan and as they were then transitioning to the Bush administration, they didn't want to act on it and hand the new guys a war?
He specifically mentioned discussing al Queda with Condi, and that he told her that the Bush administration would be spending more time on dealing with this than previously thought.

[The Backlash Cometh]

88. Did the Clinton Administration have plans to invade Afghanistan?

Condi just endorsed that.

[Mandate My Ass]

16. Inadequate to the task

talking about Clinton's OPeration Infinite Resolve.

You can have lots of plans but unless you find a way to get regional cooperation with Pakistan et al, will not have a full range of military options.

[Imperialism Inc.]

17. Does anyone have a list of media email addresses?

I want to try to get them to ask, later when the pundits get to it, why Bush opposed Homeland Security if it was important?

[Thrill]

19. WHat did she say

she didn't recall.

[Imperialism Inc.]

25. She said over and over and over that we needed something like

Homeland Security agency but they opposed it.

[cosmicdot]

90. Condi must've been briefed on ANSER, the setting up Homeland Security

pre 911 ... they set up the infrastructure so it could be rolled over to Pennsylvania Avenue ...

certainly, Condi was 'up' on that ... even the White House website once linked to ANSER's in the post 911 transition to PATRIOT Act, TIA, etc. Homeland Security, too.


http://www.anser.org/
http://www.homelandsecurity.org/

seems the egg came first, not the chicken

[berner59]

30. Bring on Kerrey....

These repub guys are sickening... "So you didn't have enough time to fix this, is that right???" They really can't come up with anything to gloat about though so this will be pretty easy to see that Bush did nada....

Until Fox & CNN start spinning...

[Stephanie]

45. I'm SORRY I didn't note which poster I copied this from

I hope the poster who created this list will correct it - I can see that when I copied it I messed up some of the links. Whoever you are, THANKS!! :hi:

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[BattyDem]

20. If the Bushies were so concerned about the Taliban ...

why did they give them $43 million?

[NewJeffCT]

28. to enable bin Laden?

I always wondered if any of that $43 million went towards flight school for the hijackers? plane tickets? Didn't they come back to the US soon after the gift?

[proud patriot]

22. Lies lies and more lies

:grr: "we could not of prevented it even if it was implemented
the day we got into office"

[underpants]

23. LInk to C-SPAN

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[liveoaktx]

24. What the heck was her job? She sounds totally ineffectual!

[readmylips]

29. Gorton kissing her butt...

Asking, yes, no questions...Gorton saying and agreeing that the bushe's only had the 232 days available to prevent the attack.

Gorton, the bushes's have prevented other attacks throughout the world...isn't true. Sleeza of course...blah, blah, blah...

[matcom]

33. Trust the Gorton Fisherman

:eyes:

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. Gee and how many years had it been prior?

Never before in US history had we such a devistating attacked by foreign terrorists on US soil.

[Imperialism Inc.]

32. Um no that was the Spanish citizenry that you hurt not al Qadea

[skypilot]

35. As I listen to Condi ramble...

...I'm reminded of something that John Dean said on NOW with Bill Moyers.
He said that, for her sake, the best thing she can do is not give actual facts but simply give opinions. That seems to be what she is doing most of the time. Offering her opinions.

[Thrill]

40. The Repukes on this commision

are doing a disservice to the families. With their pathetic softball questions. Unreal

[Plaid Adder]

36. "Dr. Rice, perhaps you don't understand that I'm pitching you a softball."

"oh, I'm sorry, commissioner, I was expecting heat. Let me adjust my swing..."

@#$!,

The Plaid Adder

[Guaranteed]

52. ROFL nt

[lwcon]

53. No more softball

"I apologize for throwing you a soft-ball question. Let's switch to T-ball."

[swag]

37. Nice line:

"Tom Ridge has a unit that sits around and worries . . ."

[liveoaktx]

41. Maybe that's why their budget keeps getting cut

[lwcon]

38. Slade Gorton and Condi

Make sure your children are out of the room. They shouldn't be exposed to this explicit ass-kissing.

[The empressof all]

47. Slade

I never could stand this man. Just looking at him makes me cringe.

[redqueen]

99. Hi lwcon!

Welcome to DU :hi:

[lwcon]

131. Thanks!

Great to have a place to commiserate, especially as we watch the GOP questioners help Condi, as one DU member aptly described it, run out the clock.

[redqueen]

141. Yes, commiserating is good

I didn't expect anything *but* a bi-partisan whitewash, but what the hey! That's entertainment, right?

[w13rd0]

39. "Tom Ridge..."

...has a department that SITS AROUND AND WORRIES.

Oh, I feel so much better with my future in the hands of the Department of Sitting on One's Ass and Worrying...

[jean]

42. pfft - she thinks they have hurt AQ, not displaced it? THOUSANDS of new

AQ and AQ-esque members have been generated under her watch, by her ineffective actions.

C - I hope ... we can balance our efforts --- airport security very much different since 9/11

Homeland Sec - making alot of progress in hardening but can't prevent every attack

"WE HAVE INCREASED THE WORLDWIDE ATTENTION TO THIS PROBLEM" - ha! They have increased the influx of terrorist neophytes into AQ exponentially!

Have to leave the room for awhile - this is nauseating

[The Backlash Cometh]

Condi Rice is the poster child for al Qaeda Recruitment.

*

[swag]

43. Oh, now she's going to justify Iraq on 911

egregious.

[Mandate My Ass]

44. I'd like your views on how well you've done????

WTF kind of question is that? Oh yeah, a softball, letting her off the hook and allowing her the floor to makes speeches instead of addressing inconsistencies.

Condi: We'll never be able to prevent every attack. We think the PATRIOT ACT gets the right balance of preventing terrorism and ensuring rights.

Why am I putting myself through this?:hurts:

[bkcc]

61. I know....

That was what "Unfiltered" refered to as a "Nerfball question."

I said it earlier, and I'll say it again: this is a joke.

[bkcc]

46. This whole thing is a joke.

Each commissioner gets only 5 minutes for questions??
It's a dog and pony show for public relations. Period.

The only way we're going to get any answers or justice is if a similar commission is called during Kerry's administration.

[maddezmom]

48. Kerrey up now

[Guaranteed]

49. Here comes Bob....

Tee hee....

[BattyDem]

50. Kerrey's up!

n/t

[Chovexani]

51. OMG!

OMG! The Patriot Act gets the right balance between (terrorism) prevention and civil liberties?!?!?!?

Put some cheese on that whopper! :argh:

[MegaDave]

54. Lets go Bob Kerry

Hopefully he will finaly ask some decent questions

[liveoaktx]

56. Making the distinction between terrorism as a TACTIC and a WAR

yeah!

[librechik]

58. nope--long winded and self serving as usual

Ask a question and let her lie fer goawd's sake!

[librechik]

wow, it's a Philip Zelikow question!

that's sum balz

[Guaranteed]

59. He's talking about Iraq...that's a good start

Slightly off topic, but understandable.

Maybe he's just warming up.

[htuttle]

64. Says he supported war in Iraq, BUT...

...says that our military strategy is doomed, and will lead to a civil war, and encourage recruitment in al Queda.

Now asking about transition period with Clintons.

[htuttle]

78. KERRY: I'm don't want to hear this phrase again,

"President was tired of swatting flies"

Asks, WHAT fly did the President ever swat before 9/11?

Says that it is an unfortunate phrase, since after the Cole, it was obvious they were not 'flies'.

Says Clarke had the plan to deal with al Queda after the Cole, why didn't we respond to it?

[redqueen]

110. Hi MegaDave!

Welcome to DU

:hi:

[neverborn]

57. So...

Is anyone going to ask her about the "Armageddon" program they initiated on September 11th?

Oh, I forgot, this commission is a whitewash. Silly me.

[MegaDave]

76. HAHAHAHAHAH WHAT FLIES BITCH?!?!?

Go Bob Go

[BattyDem]

60. Iraq is increasing Al Qaeda recruitment!

Go Bob!

[swag]

62. Nice bytes, Bob Kerrey

Iraq Dangerously off-course

...will strengthen Al Qaeda

[jean]

63. Kerrey up now

why weren't things done differently?

1. we underestimate that this war is a war
2. we don't understand how the Muslim world views this - military options now may result in civil war
3. increases AQ success in recruiting people

Military operations are dangerously offtrack.


Give me an example of the prez swatting a fly prior to 9/11?

C - figure of speech

Kerrey - unfortunate figure of speech. Lots of plans military plans from Clinton including appendices - why didn't we respond to the Cole

C - tactical or strategic response - you have to decide. Kerrey you gave a speech saying we should do something about the threat of Saddam...we didn't take a tactical approach...your speech was great...

K - you didn't have a military response against the Cole because of my speech?

[librechik]

70. go Kerrey! I take it back, yer great

awesome

[SheepyMcSheepster]

65. yay for bob kerrey!

[liberal72]

Finally getting to the U.S.S Cole

they knew who attacked the Cole and did't respond to it, tell me now how they were tough on terrorism when you didn't respond to the Cole.

[Skip Intro]

66. bob kerry - wtf?

I'm impressed by your story and I support the war in (invasion of) Iraq...

This guy bugs me.

Admonishing those who applauded his criticism of our tactics in Iraq.

He really bugs me.

[liveoaktx]

69. Didn't bug me, all that applause might have eaten up his time, eh

wants to get to it, and it's working, look at Condi stammering. I also heard his story on how she got to where he was as a compliment before attacking her *story*

[Skip Intro]

87. Well, he's sounding better now

maybe i need more caffeine

[Citizen Daryl]

80. The purr before the growl.

[maddezmom]

Kerrey getting to the heart of it, Philip Zelikow

[Laughing Mirror]

67. Why aren't the questions being asked that Americans want asked?

Such as:

Why did Bush sit there reading the goat story when he should have been ordering the hijacked planes be shot doan?

Why was Ashcroft told not to fly commercial jets?

Why was Bin Laden family whisked out of the country?

These are the questions inquiring minds want answered.

I don't care about the "systemic" failures> That's all abstract. We want concrete answers to real questions.

What a waste of time and an offense to the American citizen if not.

[w13rd0]

68. Kerrey now...

...starts off with a little ass-kissing.

Saying we are at "War with Radical Islam" not "War against Terrorism"...end up with civil war...supported the war. He's talking about Iraq right? Restrictions upon the press. Dangerously off-track Christian army. (Implying we are coming dangerously close to a Holy Crusade).

Asking about her conversations with Phillip someone or other. Asked if they talked about terrorism. Help us think about the structure of terrorism, Dick Clarke's operation (there she is trying to shift blame again). Well, confrontational.

[BattyDem]

71. What fly did he swat prior to 9/11?

HAHAHAHA!

[WilliamPitt]

72. Kerrey's going animal

[underpants]

81. CAN YOU TELL ME ONE FLY THAT WE SWATTED?

BAM!

[Chovexani]

73. Kerrey is rocking the house!

We only swatted one fly, in 1998!

I *heart* Bob Kerrey.

[The Backlash Cometh]

113. yeah, that was good.

We only swatted one fly in 1998. How could he be tired?

[Cannikin]

74. And the oscar goes to:

[Chovexani]

Where's Buffy when you need her? (n/t)

[underpants]

75. WHAT FLY DID HE SWAT? HOW COULD HE BE TIRED?

Bam!

[readmylips]

77. Kerry: What the hell flies was he swatting?.....

Bush had not swatted anything..Kerry hitting her with facts

Sleeza running around the issue.

[matcom]

79. WHY DIDN'T WE 'SWAT THAT FLY' DR RICE!!

:bounce:

[rocktivity]

82. Jon Stewart must be drooling like Niagra Falls!

:headbang:
rocknation

[TheDonkey]

83. whoa did anyone see Condi get a little headshake in her

"don't go there girlfriend"

Powell must have been teaching her.

[underpants]

94. DAMMit stream went down-what did she get applause for

:shrug:

[TheDonkey]

118. She brought up a Kerrey speech after the USS Cole hit

where Kerrey mentioned Iraq.

That made him even more mad.

[BattyDem]

84. Turning the tables on Kerrey

That's not really a smart thing to do ...

[w13rd0]

It's an obvious move...

...she's been coached in things to say to goad members of the commission. I wonder how they feel being backgrounded...

[librechik]

85. What Condi? A military response might not be appropriate?

That's a new one from this bunch! I thought Clinton was a pussy because he didn't invade everybody!

[liveoaktx]

86. SLAM on Kerry-he's turning red, but nicely turned

Chess...

[sniffa]

108. kerrey

"pLease don't fiLibuster!!"

appLause

[readmylips]

89. Bob Kerrey pissed..shaking his head at her lies....

an blah...blah.. Again blaming Sandy Berger.

[liveoaktx]

92. Trying to cut through all her long-winded bullsh*t-GO KERRY

[liveoaktx]

100. Please don't filibuster, it is not fair-Kerry

Well, geez, declassify that Jan memo

[librechik]

91. Wow Kerrey really is getting her to squirm!

Why didn't they do anything about the Cole? Why did they pull John Oneill off the case when he tried?

Why aren't they asking these questions!!!

[Mandate My Ass]

102. Oh I'm missing it

I just lost the stream and I've been drooling for someone to bring up John O'Neill.

[maddezmom]

104. Kerrey: don't filibuster me

and then Condi continues...WTF????

[BattyDem]

Is Kerrey implying that Condi's lying?

:evilgrin:

[RoyGBiv]

98. Yup

A close to a direct statement as we'll get...and he's reaming her now on her chewing up time.

[sadiesworld]

93. Update from freeperville:

The audience is filled w/ DNC operatives and their airfare to DC has been paid by Teresa Heinz Kerry.

Seems to be a consensus.

:crazy:

[RoyGBiv]

106. Clueless Freepers

The audience is filled with people who had loved ones that DIED on 9/11.

Geezus.

[noonwitch]

122. Is Theresa Heinz Kerry replacing Hillary in Freeperville?

As the source behind all liberal plots.

[NewJeffCT]

124. yes, but

What do they think of Condi under fire so far?

Are they swooning or worried?

[sadiesworld]

Swooning.

[htuttle]

95. Condi tries to say that Kerrey himself (Bob) gave a speech...

...after the Cole saying that the maybe the best way to handle it was to deal with Iraq.

This pisses Kerrey off, visibly. Kerrey says, "Do you mean you didn't do anything about terrorism because of my speech?" (paraphrased)

Condi spinning a bunch of crap. Kerrey calls her on it. Says that they should have accepted responsibility for what went wrong.

Calls her on all these 'strategic/regional' vagaries.

Somehow, in the midst of all this, she tries to blame Clinton. Says they weren't presented with a plan by them.

Kerrey says, That is not true.

[Plaid Adder]

96. Whoops--Kerry just called her "Dr. Clarke"

Twice!

WTF?

The Plaid Adder

[TheDonkey]

97. Kerrey is going to be on all the news channels with this

HE is flipping out!

[Chovexani]

101. Ooh burn!

"Please don't filibuster me."

Kerrey is making her look like a moran.

[Plaid Adder]

111. Actually I kinda think he's making himself look like an asshole.

But I guess you gotta try all styles once,

The Plaid Adder

[Chovexani]

147. Hehe.

I think he started off with the brownnosing comments so he wouldn't look like an asshole nailing her to the wall later on. Whether it worked or not is another story. He's one tough SOB, no matter which way you slice it.

I'm happy with the Dems so far. Ben-Veniste came out swinging, Gorelick was killing her softly, and Kerrey went for the jugular. Too bad so much time has been pissed away by Repukes throwing nerfball questions.

[Oddman]

103. She's driving me crazy!!!

She is eating everyone's time and they are letting her get away with it!!!

[buddhamama]

Kerrey said, "You're Lying"

:bounce:

[cosmicdot]

105. Fun Facts - the Summer of 2001 - * at his battle station

from the Center of American Progress's website:

http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/{E9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03}/timeline.pdf

President Bush’s Vacation Schedule after August 6, 2001 – the day the White House received the “hair raising” warning about an imminent al Qaeda attack.

Monday, August 6
4-mile run, building nature walk in canyon, fishing.1

Tuesday, August 7
Golf.2
3-mile run.3
Fishing, cookout with Mel Martinez.4

Wednesday, August 8
Habitat for Humanity, Waco, TX (injured finger).5 “ took a few hours …
Bush spent a leisurely 30 minutes posing for pictures, signing autographs and talking to Texas officials. He also spoke to the press for about 10 minutes.”6
Chatted with neighbors, Crawford, TX, “just over an hour”.7
Worked out with weights8

Thursday, August 9
Jogging, fishing, announced stem cell decision (9pm EST).9

Sunday, August 12
Church near Crawford.10

Monday, August 13
Golf, signed agriculture bill with audience of farmers.11

Tuesday, August 14, 2001
Thinned brush and raised money at a picnic in Colorado.12
Talked to children at YMCA camp in Colorado.13

Wednesday, August 15, 2001
Talked to children in Albuquerque, opened job-training center, addressed Chamber of Commerce, fundraised for Sen. Domenici, Colorado Rockies v. Atlanta Braves.14

Saturday, August 18, 2001
Radio address re: faith-based initiatives.15

Monday, August 20, 2001
Addressed VFW Convention, toured Harley-Davidson plant, Milwaukee.16
Work out, dinner with friends.17

Tuesday, August 21, 2001
Truman High School, Independence, MO re: taxes.18

Wednesday, August 22, 2001
Ran, lifted weights.19

Thursday, August 23, 2001
Golf, Crawford Elementary School, met with horticulturalist re: trees on ranch.20

Friday, August 24, 2001
Press conference re: economy (1st conference of vacation).21

Saturday, August 25, 2001
Ranch tour for the press (80 minutes).22

Sunday, August 26, 2001
Steel Plant in Pennsylvania, barbeque.23
Little League World Series Championship (Japan v. Florida).24

Wednesday, August 29, 2001
Spoke at an American Legion Convention re: military budget, tax cut.25
Dedicate a restored grist mill, San Antonio.26

[Oddman]

112. That's right!

bu$h on vacation the whole time . . .

“President” Bush Takes a Vacation.....
http://www.arts-america.com/vacation.htm

[readmylips]

107. Kerrey: todl her 'that is not true.'....

Kerrey, please don't fillerbuster me....(shutup). Aplause from crowed.

More facts from Kerrey.

[zulchzulu]

109. Alternate audio stream to CSPAN (RealAudio)

http://www.kalw.org/kalw_stream.ram

[rocktivity]

138. I've given up on the video stream

I'd like to see what she's saying but it must be so overloaded it's unstable.

:headbang:
rocknation

[liveoaktx]

114. I'm starting to shout at the screen! SHUT HER UP FROM HER RAMBLING

As Kerry said, all they had to do was put that info on INTEL and it would have been over.

[htuttle]

115. Kerrey says that everyone in DC knows the FBI and CIA don't talk

Says, however, that if the information they'd recieved had just been put out on 'intel-link', the game would have been over. The plot would have been disrupted.

Condi denies.

Kerrey presses. "Why didn't you follow up? You know the FBI and CIA don't exchange information otherwise."

[htuttle]

123. BOOM! Kerrey says Aug 6 PDB says Al Queda was planning a hijacking in US

Condi says, "But it didn't say where in the US!"

Condi says that they couldn't make appropriate changes to security because we hadn't been attacked yet?

[maddezmom]

132. There it is: THEY KNEW

[maddezmom]

116. Kerrey: where is your followup, where is the paper trail?

and she goes on to say Dick Clarke...blah blah blah

[w13rd0]

117. The WH strategy is SO BLOODY OBVIOUS!!!

Stonewall, stall for time, blame everyone else, ramble on and on...

[Oddman]

128. and it's working

they are letting her ramble. Shut her up and make her answer succinctly . . .

[TheDonkey]

130. Kerrey called her out on this

said it was "obvious what your doing" ie. trying to fillibuster him.

[BattyDem]

119. This is great!

Ben-Veniste and Gorelick were terrific ... but Kerrey is rockin'! :headbang:
He's slammin' her with facts and she keeps spinning in circles!


on edit: Had info been put on 'Intel-link', the game would have been over. That should be the sound-byte that makes every newscast in the country ... but it won't be. :mad:

[matcom]

KERRY JUST DECLASIFIED THE MEMO - IT IS OUT!!!

HIJACKINGS....

SPECIFIC HIJACKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHO SAID NOTHING WOULD COME OF THIS??

[jackstraw45]

126. FINALLY!

Thank you BoB Kerrey.

[TheDonkey]

134. What's gonna happen to him now he just "went there"

:?:

[RoyGBiv]

142. Wondering that myself

Ashcroft is probably calling the federal marshalls to have him dragged out of the chamber.

[Guaranteed]

143. WAY TO GO KERRY!!!

Whoohoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

[HootieMcBoob]

144. Kerry reading clasified memo?

Is the stuff he's reading actually classified? Is he going to get burnt for this?

[Laughing Mirror]

120. It's all a big fat whitewash

Nothing is being asked of what happened on 9-11.

Lovely irony for something that calls itself a "9-11 Commission."

[rockymountaindem]

129. The questions about what happened on 9/11 itself

come at a later date. This phase is for examining pre-attack intelligence. How the events unfolded on 9/11 will be covered in a different phase, next month I think. Some of the people who have already testified will come back, I think.

[Laughing Mirror]

140. Then I will come back then.

These hearings tell me nothing.

[readmylips]

121. She lied: Louie Freed was on for months under bush...

Kerry is frustraded with her lies...They should remind her that she's under oath.

Imagine, bush under oath on his own testifying. I can imagine uncle dick will do all the talking.

[caledesi]

145. Condi is pissing me off.

She acts as though she is giving a lecture to everyone rather than being under oath.

She should be ask NO "open-ended" questions. Just YES or NO questions.

Why are the repugs there? To help her?

She should be testifying a lot longer than 2 1/2 hours!! I feel should would crack then. <she was shaking at one point with the great Kerry>

[RoyGBiv]

125. Blaming Clinton Again

Structural changes should have been made a long time ago...repeated this in various ways three or four times.

[w13rd0]

127. She is basically saying they NEEDED 9/11 to happen...

...to justify their structural changes. They didn't have the political capital to accomplish needed changes. More softballs from a GOP shill. This testimony is a friggin joke.

[tedzbear]

148. I don't watch the Repug questioners...

...because they are helping her and asking nothing but soft balls. They are trying to implicate Clinton.

[sadiesworld]

133. "the inefficient hand-off/transition"

WTF

The Clinton admin gave UNPRECEDENTED assistance.

Lehman is such a tool.

[htuttle]

137. Actually, Lehman said that the Bush admin had said it was inefficient...

...but pointed out that it was one of the longer transitions in memory.

[LeftHander]

135. CIA FBI all stayed the same.....

To allow 911 to happen. Old school GHW Bush buddies and sneaky neocon domestic terrorists needed to stay in place so the info on the 911 attacks would slide under thew covers.

[librechik]

150. Except the Bushies pulled John ONeil off the terror detail

Except they shut down the investigation of Saudis in terrorism.

Those poitive moves to stop finding the criminals are what I'm interested in know ing about.

Private session questions.

[maddezmom]

136. Clarke told her about AQ sleeper cells

but it wasn't her job to do anything about it...it was the FBI's job. :eyes: What is her job?

[RoyGBiv]

139. What, exactly, are we paying this person to do?

I wasn't told this. I wasn't told that. I couldn't act on that. Someone asks her a question about what she did about this or that, and she refers to Dick Clarke having done this or that or it should have been done before...

Does she actually DO anything?

[Avalux]

146. Yes

she reads the paper to * and tucks him in at night. Paid babysitter.

[PaDUer]

149. Yes she does something...

she flies around w/ * "just like any other married couple".

[rockymountaindem]

151. News flash!

My conservative friend who I'm chatting with online just said

"she doesn't know much, or at least she didn't know much... it is almost comical"

My guess is that she's not impressing anyone.

[caledesi]

152. OMG! Condi is looking like "Chuckie" from the horror movies.

LOL!

[proud patriot]

153. please continue in thread 5

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1369785&mesg_id=1369785

Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1368912&mesg_id=1368912

Thread 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1369539#top

Thread 4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1369539