ABC Showed Bodybags...

[pss]

...and pictures of dead Marines and Iraqis. Peter Jennings, a Martha Raditz (sp?) report. They were pretty clean, carefully edited, but they showed a picture, from yesterday, of a marine carrying a bodybag on his shoulder. Video too.

I don't recall seeing this before on the Evening News...

[slinkerwink]

1. that's amazing that they showed that on the evening news

and I hope that pro-war Americans, especially Republicans, will carefully reconsider whether the war was right, and think about the fact that the President lied to us to get us into there.

[BlueEyedSon]

9. I heard the sickest thing last night.

I ended up in a social situation with people I don't usually, uh, be social with. One mentions Bush. The other comments on how much she LOVES the guy. I bite my tongue. My wife looks nervous. Five minutes of the love fest go by. THEN I HAD TO JUMP IN.

OK, we did the economy, the budget, the environment, the Clenis, the lies, the war, the mercs in Falluja. We got to the Dover restriction, and the Bushbot says "why should they show that stuff?" I was amazed (like, because it's happening, and it's someones kid/dad/mom/friend/etc!!!).

Fox has already programmed their viewers that graphic/negative coverage of the dead & wounded is a democrat plot to aid the terra-ists!

End of rant.

[buycitgo]

11. you can't just leave it at that......what was the climax?

any harsh words? did you know the people?

what about crowd reaction? did anyone else join in?

speaking of which, I got an email of a doctor friend of mine, who lives in Texas, has MET both #41 and his hagbag wife/husband, Bar
(said she's a REAL bitch on wheels.....pushed him out of frame for a picture being taken at a soiree for his hospital!).

he says it's VERY lonely being a dem in Houston, his job, and his neighborhood

[BlueEyedSon]

18. No climax, it got late, wife pulled me outa there.

Both Bushbots in question were avid Fox-ers, they know different "facts" than we do!

All was civil, no minds were changed. Only positive: we got to some issue where we had "different facts" (i forget the details), but I told him not to trust me, but to check the Internet. He said he would.

I just wanted to scream into their faces "YOU ARE BEING LIED TO!".

Can Fox News be sued - maybe to remove the word "news" - it's more like entertainment.....

The point of my post was that now the carnage is getting in the faces of the war supporters, they have this bizzarre mental programming about how to interpret (ignore?) it. Bring it on!

[david_vincent]

2. I do...

during Vietnam.

[pss]

15. I remember pictures from Vietnam too...

...now that you mention it. I was a child at the time. I remember once, on the TV, the man said that "only 6 of our boys" were killed that day. I thought six boys killed sounded like an awful lot!

Some little boy somewhere is thinking the same thing tonight.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

21. Lived right next to a cemetery '67 thru '73

I remember a lot of 21 gun salutes. Very impressed as a young boy.
Didn't know what it was all about but you never forget the honor guard doing 3 times 7.

[NNN0LHI]

22. Remember the conveyors of endless aluminum caskets as they off loaded?

[democracyindanger]

3. Also

Front page above the fold, NYT national print edition carries a photo of a soldier loading a bodybag into a truck. I think this is a first.

Could it be that the mainstream press is actually going to start communicating the costs of this nightmare?

[Qanisqineq]

4. The picture of the marine with a bodybag

on his shoulder was on the front page of the Washington Post (I believe another newspaper, too)

Edit: I think it was the Washington Post... I saw it on TV this morning. So somebody correct me if I'm wrong

[robertpaulsen]

19. That other paper was the Los Angeles Times

I'm looking at it right now. And thankfully they did not use the Orwellian "transfer tube" to describe it.

[DrWeird]

5. Why now?

nt

[mmonk]

6. things are starting to turn

When people started seeing war (back in Vietnam days) on TV, opposition to war began to mount.

[stellanoir]

12. strangely. . .

Today on NPR the photographer who took the shot of the Marine (which appeared on the cover of the NYT as well as other rags) carrying the body bag was interviewed by one of my favorite commentators. She's very astute and well informed and does her homework thoroughly. However, in this interview, she queried the photographer several times about how often he'd seen body bags. For the first time ever (20 years), the thought occurred to me that she might be a bit naive. Over six hundred (and sickeningly over 10,000 Iraqis) dead and she thought a photo of a body bag was an anomaly. . .? Look, I still think she's one of the best but I think her disbelief was merely symbolic of how severly the war has been whitewashed.

I was very young during Vietnam but the images we saw then compel me to this day to be a total pacifist. Our media is currently failing us horrendously. Thank goodness for the internet.

[buycitgo]

7. more

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. The American people need to see these images daily

and on every newscast before it will start to hit home for some of them.

[Amerpie]

10. In a military town

My local paper, the Fayetteville Observer, is on record as supporting the war. As we are located right beside Ft. Bragg, home of the 82nd Airborne and two SPecial Forces Groups it's not like the paper has any choice.

What I do find telling though is that the paper also runs a front page obituary every time a local soldier dies in Iraq or Afghanistan.

The war is very real here.

[newscaster]

13. Its not surprising

ABC News and Jennings are admittedly not fans of the Bush Administration. Showing body bags is to be expected and applauded, but first, a moment of silence for the young men inside the bags who =should have been at home with their families.

[central scrutinizer]

14. not body bags - transfer tubes

they are trying to sanitize the language as well as hide the images

[democracyindanger]

17. I was surprised

that the caption in the NYT used "bodybag." I fully expected them to use "transfer tube."

[David__77]

16. They're getting too exhausted to enforce the media blackout.

Normally soldiers would be instructed to harass the media doing their job. Maybe that's breaking down--we can hope.

[newsguyatl]

20. just fyi

cnn showed the same material today at 5

[calimary]

23. Guys! BATTLE STATIONS! CONTACTS: Encourage the media to show the truth!

Tell them THEY OWE AMERICA THE TRUTH. And to hell with what this White House says they can or can't show. AMERICANS NEED THE TRUTH! Are they reporting the news, or spinning fairy tales?

IF THEY THINK YOU DON'T CARE, THEY WON'T, EITHER!!!

(And by the way, other threads here are wondering what made Lou Dobbs turn. I think it's the facts, SPURRED by LOTS OF SUPPORTIVE VIEWER REACTION!)


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