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Serenity-NOW Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 05:19 PM
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18 reasons why impeachment is not an intelligent option-
1. republican controlled congress
2. Vice-President
3. Speaker of the House
4. President Pro Tempore of the Senate
5. Secretary of State
6. Secretary of the Treasury
7. Secretary of Defense
8. Attorney General
9. Secretary of the Interior
10. Secretary of Agriculture
12. Secretary of Commerce
13. Secretary of Labor
14. Secretary of Health and Human Services
15. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
16. Secretary of Transportation
17. Secretary of Energy
18. Secretary of Education

Number two begins the list of succession. Put the names to the titles for a frightening look at how it would go. Take your pick at where to stop and remember most of these folks are appointees.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 05:22 PM
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1. Its not going to happen until we control more than we do now..


which is absoutely nothing.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 05:22 PM
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2. So why didn't we have President Spiro Agnew
or President John Mitchell, or Al (I'm running things) Haig?
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Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 05:35 PM
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4. agnew resigned before nixon did
that's why we had Ford
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 06:24 PM
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6. Uh-huh. Are you all following my argument here?
to lay it right out there, we can impeach because before we do so we get rid of Cheney & put in someone else that would be an acceptable caretaker. That's how it worked with Nixon & that's how it should work with *.
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Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 06:34 PM
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7. I followed it, it's all hypothetical anyway
Seriously though, if in some strange way Bush actually did get impeached, the whole shebang would be so weakened they wouldn't be able to do much.
I sure as hell don't want Cheney to be president.
I prefer the "impeachment" of voting Bush out of office.

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Serenity-NOW Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 05:29 PM
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3. Those names take your pick
Al Haig... maahahaahhahhaha teehee hehehehe good one! Nobody ever said he was the sharpest tack.

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Colin Powell
Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General John Ashcroft
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Ann M. Veneman
Secretary of Commerce Donald Evans
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy G. Thompson
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham
Secretary of Education Roderick Paige
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Anthony J. Principi
Secretary of Homeland Security2 Tom RidgeV
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 05:44 PM
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5. Nah, don't buy it.
It is a good idea because:
1)It would become extremely difficult for * to be re-elected, since impeachment trials would be going on during the campaign. This would have a tendency to take *'s mind of the campaign trail, to say the least.
2)If successful, Cheney becomes President. Anyone who thinks Cheney would have any chance at all at winning a popular election is hallucinating. Charles Manson would have an easier time getting elected.
3)What if * wins in November, and we had a chance to get rid of him?
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:10 AM
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8. Wrong and wrong, a thousand time wrong.
Impeachment would send a message to the world that Americans are indeed free, free to take back their government. That Bush was wrong and we do recognize that. Terrorism would still need to be fought, but, more conventionally, as a containable problem that will always be with us instead of the post Bush un-containable rising everywhere and overly often out-of-control problem. Other countries would be happier to help us exit Iraq and rebuild it without the oil man trying to get oil-rights-friendly Iraq puppet-government pipeline approval in perpetuity.

Cheney would not be allowed to ascend by the same crossover Congress that would submit articles of Impeachment. He would be replaced, yes by a Republican.

This depends on finding some good Republicans, which is like finding a good smelling log of excrement in an overeater's farm outhouse.

Still, impeachment would be worth it.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:15 AM
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9. Bollocks... impeach them for the crimes, or cowardly...
waste away and accept those crimes as the new norm.

An impeachment would destroy the nazi-neocons and get us back some
semblance of democracy. You are wrong to shy away from indicting
criminals.

Its that sort of thinking that accepts crime, for fear that the
next mafia boss will be worse than the current one.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:16 AM
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10. I oppose impeaching Shrub...
...we need to send him back to Texas, and then get this country back on track...

Another Impeachment would divide the country beyond the breaking point...
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:50 AM
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11. As long as we throw the whole bloody crew out
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 10:52 AM by sweetheart
of the congress and the courts as well. They are criminals and
have totally subverted the basis of the people and the people's
goodwill in the world.

This war crap is really bad crime... these people should be in
prison. Agressive war is a war crime, then exile them to texas...

and maybe Huntsville injection table that Bush live the very karma
he has perpetrated on others.... that evil evil man.

Certainly this is not to wish an unjust death on the man, but
rather a wholly just one, the mass murdering felon and his crew
must go down.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:54 AM
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12. cheney's heart can't take it
and we'd get stuck with Hastert.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:58 AM
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13. Here we are with the fear again
We second - guess ourselves all the time, and refuse to take action, because...

FEAR

Fear kept us from fighting for the White House

Fear kept us from..... hell, it's kept us from doing ANYTHING until a hideous war was imminent, so SOME of us took to the streets in protest.

Whether impeachment is a good idea or not.. or would work..... shouldn't be determined by FEAR.

Kanary
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 11:01 AM
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14. Impeachment should never be about anything other...
...than removing a president for wrongdoing. It's the only means THE PEOPLE have of removing a president other than voting them out. But why should the people have to wait until the end of a criminal's term to see him out of office?

- The point is that justice should prevail above any other consideration.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 11:17 AM
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16. Exactly!
But "THE PEOPLE" are either under the spell of the koolaid, or distracted by consuming from sunup to sundown, or skeered to death of taking a stand.

We aren't THE PEOPLE of the Constitution era.

Not by a long shot.

Kanary
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 11:15 AM
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15. Vote them out of office and then bring charges
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 11:16 AM by Bandit
Try them for war crimes and crimes against America. They need to be behind bars. This is the most dishonest bunch of thugs ever to reach such high levels of power. America is nothing at all if it doesn't follow law and order.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 11:20 AM
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17. If you do not exercise the right of the public to impeach for high crimes
and treason then there is no point to having it. It is entirely appropriate to impeach him and the rest of the world expects it of us if our Democracy is not to be viewed as the joke it has become.
It was exactly the game plan of the neocons to "impeach" Clinton on trumped up charges so that the idea of another impeachment would be repulsive. We are letting them win on this with our wimpiness. It is a question of right and wrong.
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