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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:34 PM
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HOLY MOLEY! My dad is "undecided"!!!!
I just had a conversation with my dad. He's a Republican, as far as I know, he's never voted for a Democrat in his life (at least for President, anyway).

He mentioned that he received a phone call today from the Bush/Cheney campaign. They asked him if they could count on his support. He said, "No. You'll have to put me down as undecided."

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I wanted to say, "Who are you and what have you done with my father?"
I was also trying to supress screams of joy and delight. You see, if I came on too strong, it might drive him back into Bush's arms.
(I know my dad, he requires a delicate touch).

Yikes. If I were working the Bush/Cheney campaign, I'd be pretty darn worried. My dad voted for Goldwater in '64....but he may not vote for Bush in '04.
Scientific proof that Bush REALLY IS a miserable failure!
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:35 PM
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1. Yes!!!
:yourock:


Honestly, I never see threads on FR talking about how their friends/family will suddenly vote for * instead of a Democrats...unless if they're talking about Zell or Koch.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:36 PM
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2. I think a lot of Republicans will decide after Thursday..
when Condi testifies whether they will stick with bush. I'm hoping that Ben-Veniste, Gorelick and Kerrey give her a real working over.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 12:24 AM
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9. My guess is that all the commissioners
are all pretty miffed at Rice and have some choice questions to ask her.
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TheBigDemo Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:37 PM
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3. Yes, Many Republicans are not liking Bush, but that doesn't
mean they will vote Kerry. The thing to do is to get the Republican voters to stay home on election night, they might change their minds in the booth and vote Republican when they get there. So just keep them all at home on election day.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:40 PM
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4. Believe me, I'm not counting on him voting for Kerry
He said he doesn't like him for several reasons.
(I didn't ask him why - it's safer to let him be mad at Bush).

I'm just saying Bush is in terrible shape, if people like my Dad are telling his campaign that they can't be counted on to vote for him.

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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 03:15 PM
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22. No, don't dicourage them to stay home..give them a reason...
to vote Democratic. Look, if someone is on the fence about Bush, I am going to make a couple of assumptions: that they've been a pretty solid Republican their whole life, and they are in the process of questioning the core ideas and values they've had.

Give them a reason to vote FOR Kerry, and you'll get a convert to the cause. Give them a reason to stay home and/or vote AGAINST Bush, and you just have a pissed-off Republican. Who will still be a Republican in two years....and in four years.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:45 PM
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5. Nice!!! Some of my republican friends are now ashamed to
have defended the Chimp. The whole Richard Clarke thing has got them all really second guessing. I know it's a delicate situation, and yes, they can easily go back in to Chimp mind control if I or we back them in to a corner. My approach is that it's not that Republicans are bad, it a matter of Bush and Co. not being republicans at all. They are reactionarys bent on bringing the country back to the post reconstruction, big boss, big trusts days which led to the Great Depression.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:50 PM
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6. That's great, maybe your dad will just not vote due to his feelings!
Or do you think he would vote for Nader as a protest?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:42 AM
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11. No, he's not considering Nader
And I'm sure he'll vote.
It'll either be Bush or Kerry.
I think he would vote for Kerry if Kerry were putting forth a more definite plan on how to get us out of Iraq.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:46 AM
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12. And there you have it. Where's the plan? n/t
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:53 AM
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13. Too early
First they would pick it to pieces(or steal from it to pre-empt) but most of all Bush keeps screwing up the situation daily so that the solution gets harder and different all Tye time. So after June would be a better time to formulate it. If Kerry knew he would be president next week there would be a plan all right. General Clark had a very cogent and tough plan, some of which has been misapplied disastrously in recent months thereby spoiling more and more any attempts to pacify the worst disruptive militias.

So you can rant or characterize a plan or lack thereof but Bush's changing chaos makes it unwise and impractical anyway.

In the fall at least Kerry will be able to get us out of this immoral disaster and make that case more plainly.
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agtcovert Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 12:08 AM
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7. Older people are reconsidering as well...
My great uncle (80+ years old) doesn't like Bush anymore either. He's ashamed he voted for him in the first place, and he's a pretty staunch Republican.

All these small things make me ever-hopeful for change in November.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 12:10 AM
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8. i am still waiting on my father
had a long conversation kinda at one point fight on bush and so much i knew that he didnt have a clue to. once he calmed down a bit he listened but stayed quiet. so much of what i said has come out now, and he is sitting in quiet. i am just waiting for him to say something. i havent brought it up. i so understand how you handle your father, lmao
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:19 AM
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10. One of my best friends father, a Texan, a retired surgeon, and
a life long republican is NOT voting for *. He said that if Edwards was on the ticket, he'll vote for the Dems! I think he may vote for the Dems anyway as she's slowly working on him. At the very least, he's not going to vote at all. YIPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, my brother has voted republican for as many years as I can remember and is not going to this year, but then he worked for Enron. I'm thinking that * will loose a lot of the Houston area/districts due to Kenny boy.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:09 AM
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14. Suggest to him if he can't vote for Bush* with a clear conscience to
just sit this one out. He doen't need to give his vote to such a Cabal. Don't try to press him to vote Democratic. Just sit this one out. If he (and many more like him) does that then maybe we might gain a congressional seat or two also. A republican may not vote for Bush* and may even vote for Kerry but they will vote Republican on the rest of the ticket. We need to regain Congress as badly as we do the whitehouse.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:26 AM
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16. Not a chance...unfortunately
He has never missed an election his whole life.
He would not let his disgust with Bush keep him from doing his civic duty. My dad is EXTREMELY dutiful.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:21 AM
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15. Well........
when mine becomes "undecided," I'll know that hell has frozen over.
We're talking about a person who cheered when JFK and John Lennon were killed.
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Ishoutandscream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 03:03 PM
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19. Yikes, that's cold!!
I was only two when JFK was shot, but was a 19 year old college freshman when Lennon was shot and was devastated!! I'm still not over it!
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:33 AM
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17. My GOP, Jeb-loving dad loathes W
My dad lives in Florida, thinks Jeb is a great governor and has never to my knowlege voted for a democrat (except Gore, who he liked) thinks that Bush is the worst thing to happen to our country since the Civil War.
This is a guy who voted for Nixon over JFK, Nixon in both the elections he won, Ford, Reagan, Poppy and Dole. He claims to be an independent voter, too.
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 11:41 AM
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18. Mush Dimbaug drugs lost supporters
My son, a devout churchman, was 100% believer in Mush no matter how many facts I presented that he was a great liar.

The drug deal. My son never mentions Mush name.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 03:10 PM
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20. this is why
i believe bush will have to cheat again to win.
1.) nobody who voted dem last time will vote for bush this time, c'mon.
2.) most people who voted nader last time know we can't afford him this time.
3.) stories like yours are cropping up every day. i think we all know someone who has declared their mistrust of bush, and even if some still do vote for him, many won't.
4.) remember that the majority didn't vote for bush last time either. gore won and i really don't think we are 50/50 in this country anymore, no matter what the polls say, and this thread is more proof of that.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 03:15 PM
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21. We have GOT to lock down the "Conventina's Daddy Vote"
Edited on Wed Apr-07-04 03:19 PM by rocknation
See? He can't commit to Bush, but he can't commit to Kerry, either. How do we get him over the line? How do we assure them that party loyalty has nothing to do with picking the best candidate for the job? I've heard people call Howard Stern and say the same thing. An organized effort must be made to reach such people--media and otherwise. I wouldn't vote for Bush if HE were a Democrat.

:headbang:
rocknation
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