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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:08 AM
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Bells ringing, Wilkinson
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 02:38 AM by sandnsea
Who remembers what I'm trying to remember. Last fall, Will Pitt, McGovern, an unidentified source named Wilkinson. Something like that. Who remembers? We were trying to identify whether this person really existed. Is this the guy we were looking for?

In Krugman today:

"Mr. Blitzer now says he was talking about remarks made on his own program by a National Security Council spokesman, Jim Wilkinson. But Mr. Wilkinson's remarks are hard to construe as raising questions about Mr. Clarke's personal life.

Instead, Mr. Wilkinson seems to have questioned Mr. Clarke's sanity, saying: "He sits back and visualizes chanting by bin Laden, and bin Laden has a mystical mind control over U.S. officials. This is sort of `X-Files' stuff." Really?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/02/opinion/02KRUG.html

On edit:

Oh, I'm sorry, this was supposed to go in GD. Could a mod move it please.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:15 AM
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1. TOTAL BULLSHIT ALERT
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 02:17 AM by WilliamPitt
Terrance J. Wilkinson. J. for "Jim."

The fictional guy invented by CapitolHillBlue.com.

The guy who "saw" Bush say "If you can't say it was Iraq, I'll find someone who will" regarding 9/11.

Total invented fraud. The CHB.com guy eventually apologized, saying the dude scammed him. I had 1,400 words ready to go on this when the guy retracted everything. It was a buzz here for a while.

Someone should tell Mr. Krugman.

Here:

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_2529.shtml

Conned big time
By DOUG THOMPSON
Jul 9, 2003, 18:05

Damn, I hate it when I've been had and I've been had big time.
In 1982, while I was working for Congressman Manuel Lujan of New Mexico, a man came up to a me during a gathering in Albuquerque and introduced himself as Terrance J. Wilkinson. He said he was a security consultant and gave me a business card with his name and just a Los Angeles phone number.

A few weeks later, he called my Washington office and asked to meet for lunch. He seemed to know a lot about the nuclear labs in New Mexico and said he had conducted "security profiles" for both Los Alamos and Sandia National Labs. Lujan served on the committee with oversight on both labs and he offered his services if we ever needed briefings.

We already had nuclear experts on the committee, on loan from the Department of Energy, and we never used Wilkinson for briefings but we kept in touch over the years. He said he had served in Vietnam with Army Special Force, worked for Air America, later for the FBI and as a consultant for the CIA. He said he had helped other Republican members of Congress I called some friends in other GOP offices and they said yes, they knew Terry Wilkinson.

"You can trust him, he's one of the good guys," one chief of staff told me. When I left politics and returned to journalism, Wilkinson became a willing, but always unnamed, source.

Over the last couple of years, Wilkinson served as either a primary or secondary source on a number of stories that have appeared in Capitol Hill Blue regarding intelligence activities. In early stories, I checked his information with at least one more source. His information usually proved accurate and, over time, I came to depend on him as a source without additional backup.

On Tuesday, we ran a story headlined "White House admits Bush wrong about Iraqi nukes." For the first time, Wilkinson said he was willing to go on the record and told a story about being present, as a CIA contract consultant, at two briefings with Bush. He said he was retired now and was fed up and wanted to go public.

"He (Bush) said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said in our story. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."

After the story ran, we received a number of emails or phone calls that (1) either claimed Wilkinson was lying or (2) doubted his existence. I quickly dismissed the claims. After all, I had known this guy for 20+ years and had no doubt about his credibility. Some people wanted to talk to him, so I forwarded those requests on to him via email. He didn't answer my emails, which I found odd. I should have listened to a bell that should have been going off in my ear.

...more...
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:22 AM
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5. I'm sorry, I still don't get it...
How did the guy end up on Wolf AND Hardball?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:25 AM
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6. Con men have talents
http://www.mediaresearch.org/printer/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030710pf_extra.asp#1

CNN’s Brown Spread “Bush Knew” Web Rumor After It Was Retracted

Today’s CyberAlert revealed: CNN’s NewsNight with Aaron Brown led Wednesday night with attacks on the administration’s credibility, but Brown stretched his own credibility by picking up on a rumor, “a story that's been circulating on the Web today that there was at some point a conversation between the President and a CIA consultant where the consultant directly told the President that this African uranium deal was bogus.” Brown’s raising of such an uncorroborated story befuddled CNN reporter David Ensor, who speaking slowly as he fumbled for words, told Brown: “I have no way to confirm that story and it is somewhat suspect I would say...”

I noted that “in a cursory check of a bunch of Web sites and news sources online, I could not find a reference to any such allegation. But then I’m not on the left-wing mailing lists which CNN must peruse.”

Scott Hogenson, Executive Editor of the MRC’s CNSNews.com site, is bit more adept than me at finding left-wing conspiracies on the Web and identified the source Brown was quoting as CapitolHillBlue.com. But they, it turns out, retracted their one-source story at about 6pm EDT, four hours before Brown went on the air. CapitolHillBlue.com Publisher Doug Thompson discovered that his source, one Terrance Wilkinson, who identified himself as a former CIA operative, was a fraud.

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brainoverload Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:29 AM
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16. read the article that was originally linked
There is no greater journalistic hero than Paul Krugman. If you'd read the link you'd see that Krugman's commentary is a total dis on CNN in general and Wolf Blitzer in general
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:30 AM
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7. Totally freaking weird
Too big of a coincidence to be a coincidence, don't you think? Is the guy just some kind of whack job that runs around pretending to be a government operative when he isn't? (You would not believe the number of old men in my retirement town who were with the CIA or worked on some top secret govt program) Weird, weird, weird.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:33 AM
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8. Copy and paste this stuff to Mr. Krugman
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 02:34 AM by WilliamPitt
Provide Brown's phone number. Burn this prick down.

COINTELPRO.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:54 AM
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9. Done
But I think it would sound more credible coming from someone who got a show with Air America! :D
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:18 AM
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12. Right! Jim Wilkinson was and is a communications expert for
GW Bush.

Jim Wilkinson (James R. Wilkinson), who served as General Tommy R. Franks’ director of strategic communications, is deputy national security advisor for communications as of December 2003. Wilkinson "will craft long-term messaging strategy for the National Security Council" and report to National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice and White House communications director Dan Bartlett....

I swear I remember him as the RNC spokesman before Mark Rococit (Roscoe, however the hell you spell it). Isn't that so? Anyone else remember him?

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:16 AM
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2. Say WHAT, now?
"He sits back and visualizes chanting by bin Laden, and bin Laden has a mystical mind control over U.S. officials. This is sort of `X-Files' stuff." Really?"

Um, I've read Clarke's book, and he doesn't say anything of the kind. At all. If anything, he comes across as saying or implying that bin Laden was and is exactly one step ahead of US intel.

Now, how could that happen?
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:16 AM
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3. I love it...CNN has never heard of the word...
...accountability! This is disgusting stuff. In one week!
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:20 AM
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4. Busted, I Love It!
eom
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:07 AM
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10. no, no, no
There are two Wilkinsons.

Terrance J. was a fraud and a very bizarre happening last year.

But there is a deputy in Rice's office named Jim Wilkinson. He's the one who was on camera the other night.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:10 AM
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11. here's his official bio
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:22 AM
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13. Okay
As long as we're sure they're not the same guy.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:25 AM
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15. Ohhhhh okay...got it.
I was freaking out, cuz I SAW that guy.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:25 AM
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14. I saw someone on CNN say those EXACT words...
Someone reporting from the White House, or Capitol, I think...

And, yes, it was on Wolf Blitzer...is someone POSING as this guy??
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