All intelligence agencies agreed there were WMDs before the war?

[LoZoccolo]

WTF? Someone told me this in an argument just a few minutes ago, but I don't believe it. What could he have been talking about? I guess I'd think, why did they have to make up so many lies if they had evidence?

on edit: By "all", I mean, just about every countries'.

[still_one]

1. Bull

Just ask David Kay, and he is no Democrat, he will tell you that the intelligence sucked!

[4morewars]

2. au contraire...

i believe they agreed the opposite was true.

[LoZoccolo]

4. Yeah...

That's why I'm puzzled why he'd even say this. He said "why were the sanctions still in place then" and I honestly couldn't think of why, but then I'm like, well why wasn't everyone behind us and why would Colin Powell have to present some farcical largely-plaguerized old report before the UN?

[4morewars]

5. sounds like he's talkin' outta his ass n/t

[sandnsea]

3. No

All intelligence agencies "thought" there were WMD in Iraq when the IWR and 1441 were passed in OCTOBER. By the time of the invasion in MARCH, the position of most countries was that they did not know whether there was really WMD in Iraq or not. They were arguing that there was NO piece of intelligence that said WMD existed at all. Ask the person to point you to one piece of intelligence that said "WMD is in location 'x'". I guarantee you they won't be able to do it. The best anybody could say in MARCH was that Saddam wasn't participating in a disarmament in the manner other countries had in the past.

We now know it's probably because he had no idea what was going on in his own country either.

[ezee]

6. wmds

read Al Franken's book, Lie's and the lying liars who tellthem, chapter 41. it will help you with your argument I think.

[rman]

7. There were WMDs untill the UN took them,

which of course was before the war.
By the time Bush started harping about WMDs, those were long gone.

[Liberal Veteran]

8. Here

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/18/iraq/main537096.shtml


"So frustrated have the inspectors become that one source has referred to the U.S. intelligence they've been getting as "garbage after garbage after garbage." In fact, Phillips says the source used another cruder word. The inspectors find themselves caught between the Iraqis, who are masters at the weapons-hiding shell game, and the United States, whose intelligence they've found to be circumstantial, outdated or just plain wrong."