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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:19 AM
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Ann Coulter - Can she really believe this?
http://www.anncoulter.com/

I check in to see what filth she's spewing. This seems to be a new low. "W.W.J.K: Who Would Jesus Kill?" - wow!

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But according to liberals, it's Christianity that causes murder. (And don't get them started on Zionism.) Like their Muslim friends still harping about the Crusades, liberals won't "move on" from the Spanish Inquisition. In the entire 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, about 30,000 people were killed. That's an average of less than 100 a year. Stalin knocked off that many kulaks before breakfast.

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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:21 AM
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1. Ah, the joys of moral relativism.
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 10:21 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
'But that thing was worse than this one! That makes this one good!'

Imbeciles. Fuckin' imbeciles.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:21 AM
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2. She Crawled Out from Under Her Rock?
Haven't seen her spewing on t.v. lately, thank the Zeus.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:25 AM
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3. She was on CNN last week, or so wearing a
TURTLENECK!!!!

:bounce:
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:04 AM
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20. Trying to hide her/his adam's apple?
eom
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:34 AM
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31. Maybe she had one too many facelifts - decency standards, you know
(old joke)

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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:59 PM
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51. But, funny!
n/t
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:27 AM
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4. Mouth And Brain Disconnected From Reality
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 10:28 AM by mhr
Coulter writes this stuff because she can get away with it and it riles up the base.

It is a travesty that she would stoop to this level of muddled thought and it is a travesty that there are people ignorant enough to buy her rants.

The worst travesty is that the media does not police itself under the banner of good journalism.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:28 AM
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5. Anthrax is soooo delusional.
BTW: If you have ever wondered how a writer whose target audience is illiterate manages to sell books, here is your answer:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:58 AM
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36. Ann is a b*tch
As Al Franken put it, Ann "We Should Invade Their Countries, Kill Their Leaders, And Convert Them To Christianity" Coulter is the "reigning diva of the hysterical right. Or, rather, the hysterical diva of the reigning right." She's a horror show of epic proportions*

*Ibid.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:30 AM
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6. the classic right wing argument
Democrat: X is bad!
Republican: But Stalin was worse! You pinko commie fag!
Democrat: Umm...

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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:33 AM
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8. don't forget Hitler
the Right will always have him to compare people to
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:36 AM
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9. Ah but!
Hitler < Stalin according to the right. Get your ducks... um, dictators in a row :)

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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:41 AM
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12. True I suppose Stalin would be worse to them
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 10:41 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
they don't like communists so much. Fascists ok, not commies
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:30 PM
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47. So it has been...
they don't like communists so much. Fascists ok, not commies

Commies are atheistic. Fascists aren't. So it goes.

Check it out:

http://www.southendpress.org/books/author/bellant.shtml

Old Nazis, The New Right, and the Republican Party: Domestic Fascist Networks and their Effect on U.S. Cold War Politics
Russ Bellant

A provocative, sometimes chilling expose of domestic fascist networks, which include Nazi collaborators within the Republican Party.

It's focused on the Reagan/Bush I administration, but would scare the dickens out of anyone. Wonder how many of these old boys are still hanging around?

Perhaps Ann is diverting attention from the real problems?

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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:20 PM
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52. Bu$h and the Repubs love the Godless Chinese Commies
You see, Godless communism is ok with Bu$h and the Repubs as long as it is:

Low-Wage Godless Communism

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:04 AM
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19. That particular inequality gives me the bejeezuz.
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 11:04 AM by JCCyC
Oh my. And it's the LEFT who are the anti-Semites, huh? They, on the other hand, get a free pass to subtly downplay the Holocaust with impunity.
:argh:

Edit: less sucky formatting
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:07 AM
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21. But Stalin was the biggest anti-semite of them all!
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 11:07 AM by Vladimir
Haven't you read your history books? He was, like, responsible for all the pogroms in Russia, especially the ones in the 19th century!

Hitler was just a Stalin wannabe. With a fetish for ovens.

</sarcasm>

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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:11 PM
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37. But they'll just say "AH! Don't forget!...
...Hitler was a National SOCIALIST so he was really a lefty and so one of your guys!"

Thus is the working of the RW "mind".
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:58 PM
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42. I've actually
heard that one before. Many times.

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smcmike Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:30 PM
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46. Yeah...
Apparently, both Hitler and Stalin were democrats. And as far as I can tell, most freepers think that your average american lefty holds the opinion that Stalin was a swell guy.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:19 PM
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40. Can Republicans get over Stalin and Commumism?
The only thing you hear from Republicans is about Commumism. Can they talk about anything else. I get tired of hearing them talk about how bad Commumism is and how Democrats supported people like Stalin or didn't stand up against them. We Democrats could point out that Republicans supported Hilter and Saddam Hussein. Lets see, Hilter killed 6 million. Saddam killed about 250,000. So what party supports the most evil people. In addition, I don't hear too many liberals complaining about the Spanish Inquisition. I mainly hear Coulter using it in all her book. Maybe someone should examine what Coulter's problem is with the Spainsh Inquisition. She seems to have the lingering issues with that event.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:52 PM
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50. Republicans have no clue about Communism.
The only thing you hear from Republicans is about Communism.

That's because they think Communism would take all their wealth away from them by force... which is also what they think Democrats are going to do. Worst thing in the world to a Republican is the threat of someone taking their money away from them. They have no clue about Communism, and they never will because they refuse to even come near anyone or anything that might teach them something.

A good part of her problems with the Spanish Inquisition is that heretics were killed. First, the Spanish insisted that everyone in Spain convert, and a lot of people went through the motions just to save their own lives and because they couldn't get out of Spain for one reason or another. But then, when it was found that these people's conversions were less than genuine, they were killed for "heresy." Not only did Christians insist that everyone else accept their beliefs, they also insisted that everyone else actually mean it when they converted. Such is the fundamentalist Christian mind. It's not only "do it my way" but also "think my way... or else."

I suppose, from the tone of her article, we must now respond "properly" to the Christian message that Jesus died to save us from the consequences of our sins... or else. And, we'd better really believe it as well.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:38 PM
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41. someone should respond to her sometime by
laughing hysterically at everything she says.

Wingnuts hate being laughed at.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:32 AM
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7. Coulter is a tool of the Fright Wing
She is SO FAR out there that when somebody comes in slightly to the left of her, but still very conservative, that somebody now appears more mainstream and sane.

Same thing with Bill Clinton... he was demonized as a gay loving, draft dodging, womanizing hippy liberal, but his record was actually pretty moderate. However, by continually painting Clinton as a wild left winger it is an attempt to marginalize the true left... "those people are even more liberal than Clinton!"

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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:38 AM
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10. Raymond of Aguilers:
Chronicler of the Christian Crusaders' 1099 massacre of Jerusalem

Wonderful things were to be seen. Numbers of the Saracens were beheaded ... Others were shot with arrows, or forced to jump from the towers; others were tortured for several days, then burned with flames. In the streets were seen piles of heads and hands and feet. One rode about everywhere amid the corpses of men and horses. In the temple of Solomon, the horses waded in the blood up to their knees, nay, up to the bridle. It was a just and marvelous judgement of God, that this place should be filled with the blood of unbelievers.

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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:39 AM
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11. I feel a Landover Baptist moment coming on...
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:48 AM
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13. You'd be surprised at what mentally challenged people think
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 11:05 AM by Gman
and believe.

I don't even care to read the article as I consider Coulter very mentally unstable and maladjusted. Its interesting how people will naturally try to make sense, or take somewhat seriously what a mentally disturbed person says because they look ok, they sound ok, they're eyes are clear, they're well dressed and for all intents and purposes they appear normal. So we try to reconcile what we see and hear with the bizarre message being delivered.

When you hear a message like what Coulter delivers, you have to step back and think about whether or not a truly stable sane person would say these things. But, you should also consider whether or not this is actually a sane person saying insane things for the shock value, and in Coulter's case, for profit. This is a legitimate question for Coulter since this is how she makes her living having failed as an attorney.

Once you analyze Coulter like this two possibilities emerge. One is that she truly believes what she is saying which indicates she has some sort of chemical imbalance in her brain and she is really in need of medication. The other is that Coulter has some serious social adjustment problems. That is, she doesn't understand or appreciate or maybe care what is within the bounds of decency and what is not. Then you probably have to delve into her childhood to find the answer and begin therapy. I forget the details offhand (much less have a link), but I read somewhere a story about Coulter's childhood where she stole something from her brother. Her brother complained to their dad who chastised the boy for not getting even and even allowed the older Ann to keep what she stole.

But Coulter does not appear to like to talk about her childhood. A Google search returns no information about Coulter talking about her childhood. This would indicate she is uncomfortable talking about her childhood. If so, she is repressing some things she really needs to get out.

In either case, Coulter is not right. She is in need of medication, therapy or both. I tend to think Coulter is moderately schizophrenic and at the same time sociopathic with the roots of the sociopathological behavior being in her childhood.

That's my amateur psychologist diagnosis. What ever the real diagnosis is, one thing is for certain. Coulter's a sick puppy.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:35 AM
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33. interesting
interesting post. I'd not be surprised if she had a sick, authoritarian upbringing. Ever read about Pat Buchanan's childhood??

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:49 AM
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34. I've never read about Buchanan's childhood but
considering he is a very devout Catholic, and that he probably had a very devout Catholic upbringing, I can imagine.

Note: This post coming from someone that had a Catholic school upbringing and education... no Catholic bashing here.
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Chelzek Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:23 PM
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44. I totally agree
with your analysis. I have as much respect for the people that mock her as I do if they were mocking a mental patient. Just ignore her and leave her alone - best thing to do with anyone who is not mentally stable and not (physically) dangerous.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:49 AM
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14. I will have to look it up, but let me suggest that...
on top of everything else, she knows nothing about history. The population boom did not begin until the large scale agrarian/market societies emerged, and grew exponentially after the emergence of industrialization. My point is simply this: 30,000 may not represent a large number in absolute terms (at least not to that imbecile), but in terms of relative numbers (compared to existing population figures for both time frames), it was a huge number of people wiped out during the Inquisition. Thank goodness for good, God fearing people like Tourquemada.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:59 AM
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18. The inquisition was a very labour-intensive time-consuming death machine.
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 10:59 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
I'm sure if they could have, they would have killed more, but torture takes time, damn it! They didn't have access to the economies of scale Stalin had.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:07 AM
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22. DINGDINGDINGDING we have TWO winnahs!
These two post nail it.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:08 AM
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23. Sad, isn't it!? So many heretics, so few Iron Maidens...
but really , that is exactly what I was alluding to in my post, but only as a side issue. The economics of the time (as well as the technology) did not exist, in terms of large scale murders. I have to laugh though. 1099 would make it the Poor People's Crusade (from an earlier post, this thread). Now, there was a gracious bunch! They camped out in Hungary during the reign of Kalman the Bibliophile (English name for Konyves Kalman), and almost stayed permanently. Kalman fed them and gave them shelter when they arrived, but after a time they refused to leave and demanded that he continue providing them with everything they desired. When he told them that it was tie for them to move on, they began murdering the townsfolk who lived outside the walls. Kalman reputedly summoned his army and thinned the ranks of the crusaders by about 10,000. They then left and took out their frustrations on the Saracens.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:10 AM
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24. And the Children's Crusade - that was insanity.
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 11:11 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
Which Crusade was it where they trashed Constantinople because they were broke?

(yeah, I got what you were getting at, Stalin, to all intents and purposes, was the state, and had much greater control and potential to do great evil with a larger population)
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:21 AM
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29. I am not sure which crusade it was that trashed Constantinople
but with the record of the Poor People's Crusade, I would not be surprised if it was them. They did, after all, drag their heels getting to the Holyland. If I sounded grumpy about the economics issue, I am really sorry, I did not mean to come across as a smart ass. I simply meant to say (in my incoherent way) that the economic and social environments were not differentiable. Your point was well taken and germane.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:34 AM
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32. one good thing
it lead to the invention of Sumemr Camp and a lot of peace and quiet for parents in the summer!
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smcmike Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:34 PM
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48. The 4th
You can blame that one on the Venetians... It wasn't just that they were broke, the Venetians figured if they destroyed their biggest trading rival, everyone would be better off. Plus, you can't trust those damn Orthodox believers.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:49 AM
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15. This column makes no sense
Ann's gone off her meds again.

She's basically saying liberals are evil because a conservative columnist (Safire) suggested that "The Passion" could lead to christian-based anti-semitism. Of course, Safire isn't really a conservative because Ann says he supported/endorsed Clinton in 1992.

Ann, there are a lot of reasons people don't trust "christians" to be any less violent and intolerant than those wacky muslims. The first is the 2000 year old history of antisemitism, much of it sponsored by the church(es). The old passion plays were used to hype the christians up into wanting to either slaughter or forcibly convert jews, as they were christ-killers who rejected the message. Christians have slaughtered jews, muslims, pagans and everyone who got in their way of dominating western culture over the past two millenia.

This does not mean all christians are responsible, just as not all muslims are responsible for 9-11 and terrorism at large.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:50 AM
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16. randall terry:
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 10:50 AM by enki23
I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good.... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism.
-- Randall Terry, quoted in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, August 16, 1993

http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/qscarytoc.htm
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:27 PM
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55. People like this are not Christians
How do these people call themselves christians. Where in the bible did Jesus speak like this. Jesus always talked about loving your neighbor. Even when the Roman soldiers came to take him away he chastised one of the disciples for cutting off the ear of one of the soldiers. Even when he was dying on the cross he asked his father to forgive the people. In addition, Jesus never promoted intolerance. Jesus was the most tolerant and open person there probably ever was. He never turned anyone away no matter how big or small or how good or bad. Jesus loved everyone he came in contact with. Jesus himself said we were to love our enemies. Jesus never advocated anything this guy said. Doesn't he realize hatred is partly what killed Jesus. Finally, Jesus never advocated a christian nation. Jesus never wanted to conquer anything except people souls, sin, and the devil. This Randall Terry guy needs to go back and read the New Testament again. He clearly missed the point of the testament. Heck, it seems like he just disregarded the whole teachings of Jesus Christ! I cannot believe real christians believe and follow what people like this says.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:53 AM
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17. Read it twice...
Read it twice and I'm still not sure what point she's making this time around.

Whatever...

The woman is writing to get attention and make money. She's on the same level as Limbaugh and Savage and the rest of the crew, except that possibly she can't hold up a three-hour talk show format.

The proper response to her ramblings is laughter. Conservatives hate to be laughed at. And sure, there are some people who take her seriously. Laugh at them also, and keep on laughing. For heaven's sake, don't let anything the woman writes or any of her "fans" get you feeling intimidated!
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:18 AM
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27. You got that right!
She's better viewed as a particularly bad entertainment source, but that's all. If you want a real trip through fantasy land go register on anncoulter.com for awhile and read the posts there. There were about four people who could think and for some reason posted well-reasoned but incorrect articles, the rest are pretty amazing.

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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:14 AM
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25. My favorite part of that page
Look at all the "conservative" books on remainder sale in the side bar! Bwahaha
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:15 AM
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26. The Inquisition.... what a show
Ann needs to take a swim with the synchronized swimming nuns.. :)
Its amazing though each week she gets more and more out there.
Scott
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:18 AM
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28. i would like to know...
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 11:19 AM by EV1Ltimm
what psychological disorder best describes her unfortunate affliction? Obsessive compulsive? Neurotic? Psychotic?

I know that she's just trying to make a quick buck and she's just sticking to what works, but i think there's something deeper at work here...
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:26 AM
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30. Describing Coulter as having some mental illness
gives a bad name to people who actually do suffer from such disorders. She's just evil, that's the best word to describe her. I'm mentally ill and I've met a lot of mentally ill people in my time and none of them come even close to being as mean a person as Coulter. Most of them are pretty nice people who just happen to have a disease of the brain.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:16 PM
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39. I vote for...
...Coulteric.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:54 AM
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35. Coulter uses Stalin's sins to justify the Spanish Inquisition?
Why am I not surprised? Who says we have to approve of either one? And I guess we're not supposed to talk about Catholics and Protestants killing each other in Northern Ireland, either.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:15 PM
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38. hate sells...
...especially for born rich priviliged little bimbettes.
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Chelzek Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:13 PM
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43. I feel bad for her
more than anything. I have a feeling she was probably seriously abused as a child. (literally) And that's why she turned out like she did. Hard to hold it against her.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:26 PM
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45. I doubt she was abused-as Dr. Terry Brazleton (famous pediatrician) once
said, "sometimes you just get a mean kid."
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Chelzek Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:40 PM
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49. All the signs are there
if she's not an example of a person suffering from repressed abuse I don't know who is.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:53 PM
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53. Lessons from The Pink Pages - Action Required
In less than 1 year and on a budget of less than $18,000 the gays and lesbians of Canada and the US took down Dr. Laura Schlessinger. After a deluge of mail, 170 advertisers decided she had to go. http://www.stopdrlaura.com

Ann Coulter was "let go" from the National Post (Canada rw newspaper) after her first 2 columns.

Take a page from the pink pages of North America -- organize a targeted campaign against the advertisers and sponsors of her show.

Good luck
Your friend from the North



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54. She's a political whore.
She'll sell her soul to the political party in power. She wants to sell her books.
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