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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:08 AM
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Would Gore be vulnerable to flip flop charges if he runs?
I just thought of that. I think he ran a shitty campaign in 2000. One of the things he did was allow the GOP to define him. He was known to be an exaggerator. Would he be accused of flip flopping if he decided to run for President after saying he wouldn't.

Second, to us Democrats, what does it say of Gore that he decided NOT to run when he thought he would lose - and may now come back with Bushie's numbers on the tumble?

I don't know about this.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:10 AM
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1. Imho, yes, sadly. nt
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:13 AM
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2. not if he is drafted
with a lot of excitement.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:13 AM
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3. If Al comes back
it will be to answer the call of his supporters. There has been an outcry for him to run since Dec. If he sees he is needed and wanted he will run. Eisenhower did it. RFK did it. It is not un precidented. Gore would have $7million to start off with from the last campaign and would get instant support from big contributers. Gore would have a better team to refute the right's lies about him this time. Since he has been out of office, we have did that for him.: http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/goretruth.html & http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/mediawatchgroup.html

We are holding the media accountable for their actions and words. This could be the start of a bigger effort to protect Al if he runs. I think Begala or Carville would gladly join us in this historic battle!
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:32 AM
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4. Even you called it a flip-flop
and it would make the whole party look bad.

So hard up for candidates it had to call Gore out of retirement.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:34 AM
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5. Ok that made no sense nt
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:39 AM
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6. abso-tively
there R more than enough media whores 2 pick up the 'trash Gore' banner & run w/ it. Their negative coverage would B unrelenting.....AGAIN! If he is smart he'll hold back untl '04
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:47 AM
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7. Yup.
I supported Al to the bitter end after the coup, even though I had serious misgivings about his choice of Lieberman as his running mate. He hasn't shown any willingness to step into the fray since then - and I'm not blaming him for that - but what we need now is a fighter who can motivate and energize people.

If Gore tried to step into the race now, it would be too little too late for many and he would merely look like an opportunist, not the charismatic leader we need.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 02:55 AM
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8. yes and rightly so
If he is such a great leader, why doesn't he lead? I don't believe I've heard him speak up about much of anything in quite a long while, and there is certainly no end of things that need to be spoken out about, is there?

Are we so hard up we have to beg someone to run? Someone who isn't even taking a stand on anything? The energy that is being wasted on delusions about Gore would be SO welcome on REAL CANDIDATES' campaigns

I like my candidates forthright, courageous, innovative, current, and yes, confrontational. Like Howard Dean.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:00 AM
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9. no, the Dems aren't "hard up" for candidates at all
It's just a shrill minority of Gore loyalists trying to carry out their petty partisan vendetta for revenge.

There are NINE announced candidates (eight of whom are all better than Gore, and five of whom are definitely electable) in the race for the Democratic nomination, yet they (as well as the media) choose to focus their energy on someone who has decisively announced that he will NOT run in 2004.

And on top of that, they verbally castrate ANYONE who disagrees with them about Al Gore.

Yep, gotta love that groupthink... :eyes:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:58 AM
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17. awwwwws poor baby
people disagree with you, they must be shrill. It has nothing to do with the fact that your anti-Gore arguments never have anything to do with fact.

You are free to support whomever you like, please feel free to extend the same courtesy.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:25 AM
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10. Depends. If it appears he was draged in then no.
It wouldn't matter for more than a few days anyway.
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Phatfish Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:28 AM
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11. im not to keen on Gore
but I'd vote for him in '04 if he were on the ballot. I may vote for him before that if he can get Clark as his VP
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 03:46 AM
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12. in one word, yes...
As much as I like Al Gore, I think our media whore excuse for a press would have a field day criticizing his re-entry into the fray. He looked really good on the talk show circuit but then so did Bob Dole after he lost to Clinton.
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:11 AM
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13. Yes.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:35 AM
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14. The GOP can 'define' people when they own the 'free press'...
...just as they convinced many that Gore ran a bad campaign.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:50 AM
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15. Who cares, we need him
Seriously, I want a rematch of 2000.
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nansocal Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:56 AM
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16. If you listened to al gore before he bowed out...
you would have noticed he learned alot from 2000. he acted like he had nothing to lose this time around . they trashed him then, and they will do so again. but so what. this time we know what karl rove is all about. I am a draft gore supporter. I said this before and I'll say it again. I don't care what rove said before if there is one person he does not want to run against it is gore. the media spotlight would be soooo intense it would be hard for him to steal this one too. gore won before and he (rove) knows it. the other nine would be a cakewalk (I'm sorry to say).
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